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They have had zero over flow, that’s just for precaution.
Plus, what is needed in major population centers where people are highly concentrated is NOT the same for less concentrated area, much lessrural areas. I was in an emergency room two days ago in Fannin County Georgia. I was the only patient there (back injury). It was literally me and about 20 staff. It's pretty evident this disease goes haywire in dense populations.
 
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Absolute stupidity.

An extreme measure, but basically what both China and Italy have done.

The crazy/stupid thing to me is how ill-prepared we are as a nation for this. We can't find surgical masks, much less full protective gear. Yet we just heard from Pence yesterday dancing around the fact that we just don't have them, before making some ham-handed claim that these items are readily available. Total BS.

Hindsight and whatnot, and we may have the bestest and most greatest military, but as far as national security, we might as well be pre-Colombian America.
 
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An extreme measure, but basically what both China and Italy have done.

The crazy/stupid thing to me is how ill-prepared we are as a nation for this. We can't find surgical masks, much less full protective gear. Yet we just heard from Pence yesterday dancing around the fact that we just don't have them, before making some ham-handed claim that these items are readily available. Total BS.

Hindsight and whatnot, and we may have the bestest and most greatest military, but as far as national security, we might as well be pre-Colombian America.
It is more about the quantity that we use..... each patient you are with requires a new mask so we go through an extreme amount per day..... There is also a really big issue with people stealing these masks or hiding them.
 
It is more about the quantity that we use..... each patient you are with requires a new mask so we go through an extreme amount per day..... There is also a really big issue with people stealing these masks or hiding them.

That's the state of things, even at this early stage, and resupply isn't looking like it's showing up anytime soon.
 
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An extreme measure, but basically what both China and Italy have done.

The crazy/stupid thing to me is how ill-prepared we are as a nation for this. We can't find surgical masks, much less full protective gear. Yet we just heard from Pence yesterday dancing around the fact that we just don't have them, before making some ham-handed claim that these items are readily available. Total BS.

Hindsight and whatnot, and we may have the bestest and most greatest military, but as far as national security, we might as well be pre-Colombian America.

Few if any companies could justify having massive stocks of surgical masks and our government doesn’t have the best history with foresight. Couple that with the fact we just don’t make that **** domestically anymore what do you expect?
 
Few if any companies could justify having massive stocks of surgical masks and our government doesn’t have the best history with foresight. Couple that with the fact we just don’t make that **** domestically anymore what do you expect?

At the very least, I expect people to start acting like that they might be spreading the virus, because there is a reasonable chance that they are. Oh, and don't let those dumbass kids leave FL.
 
That's the state of things, even at this early stage, and resupply isn't looking like it's showing up anytime soon.
I work in healthcare...... we are still receiving surgical masks, gowns, and gloves. The problem at hospitals with active Coronavirus outbreaks is that each person that enters a room has to clothe up..... that leads to 1,000’s being used and thrown away daily.... then you have staff that is worried and hides PPE so that they know they will have access..... it adds up and overwhelms the system..... At the hospital here, they had to remove the masks from around visitors bc so many people were coming in and stealing them.
 
I work in healthcare...... we are still receiving surgical masks, gowns, and gloves. The problem at hospitals with active Coronavirus outbreaks is that each person that enters a room has to clothe up..... that leads to 1,000’s being used and thrown away daily.... then you have staff that is worried and hides PPE so that they know they will have access..... it adds up and overwhelms the system..... At the hospital here, they had to remove the masks from around visitors bc so many people were coming in and stealing them.

I don't know about throwing that stuff away, it might come to the point that it needs to be DECON and reuse.
 
I don't know about throwing that stuff away, it might come to the point that it needs to be DECON and reuse.
That is the healthcare infection control policy right now.... so every time a patient needs a drink, bathroom, vitals, or anything else.... a new mask is used
 
At the very least, I expect people to start acting like that they might be spreading the virus, because there is a reasonable chance that they are. Oh, and don't let those dumbass kids leave FL.

People should take reasonable precautions but it’s idiotic to call for a complete shutdown of the country. We are a JIT society now and shutting everything down for 3-4 weeks will kill more people than this bug.
 
The Other Chinese Virus

e have a remarkable ability to elevate the petty over the substantive. President Trump has been thoroughly scolded for calling the virus from China the “Chinese virus” — don’t let’s be beastly to the ChiComs — but the culpability of the Chinese government in the disaster that is playing out around the world is discussed, if it is discussed at all, in the most muffled way. There is a long history of attaching geographic names to diseases. If the present instances are unfair to the Chinese people, who have suffered massively from the outbreak, a better name would be “Xi’s disease.”

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Indeed, we do not blame the Chinese people for the fact that a novel coronavirus cropped up in Wuhan. We blame the government in Beijing for making the problem dramatically worse by trying to cover it up, for its ridiculous efforts to try to shift blame for the epidemic onto the United States and others, and for its ongoing attempts to veil its own shameful incompetence by expelling journalists from the Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal.

Beijing’s vanity — and its insecurity — gave the coronavirus “a critical monthlong head start,” as James Palmer put it in Foreign Policy. The Communist Party machine that rules 1.4 billion people in China may look like an immovable monolith, but it has weaknesses and fissures. The Chinese people at large may not feel much sympathy for the despised Uighur minority, but they know that if the Uighurs can be rounded up and put in concentration camps, then so can they. They have watched as the government of Xi Jinping has violated the terms of the settlement under which, in theory, Hong Kong is supposed to enjoy a high degree of autonomy and self-rule. They have seen the brutal suppression of dissidents at home and Beijing’s attempts, too often successful, to bully its neighbors and trading partners. They know firsthand the bottomless corruption of the Chinese ruling elite. And they have, for a generation, accepted that corruption and repression in exchange for security and a rising standard of material life. The rulers in Beijing know that they are always one serious recession away from being turned out — and worse — and they so feared economic disruption and damage to their own institutional prestige that they placed a losing bet that the heavy hand of their police state would be heavy enough to quash the coronavirus outbreak.

Thanks for this . Read 3 great articles there and wanted to read more of them.



Coronavirus Outbreak Is China's Responsibility | National Review
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People should take reasonable precautions but it’s idiotic to call for a complete shutdown of the country. We are a JIT society now and shutting everything down for 3-4 weeks will kill more people than this bug.

Oh , I agree. If we could turn up the precaution dial to 11, that'd be great.

Maybe share precaution tips.

here's one: Watch out for gas pump handles
 
People should take reasonable precautions but it’s idiotic to call for a complete shutdown of the country. We are a JIT society now and shutting everything down for 3-4 weeks will kill more people than this bug.
Absolutely 100%. Th self-induced recession or depression will cause more suffering than covid19.
 
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People should take reasonable precautions but it’s idiotic to call for a complete shutdown of the country. We are a JIT society now and shutting everything down for 3-4 weeks will kill more people than this bug.
They won't shut critical supply chains down. Have a friend that owns a small trucking company. He doesn't do LTL. He does some intercompany stuff for some auto parts manufacturers. Those plants have shut down. Others are needing regular commodities moved and he can shift to those. He aint happy though. The last time the companies shut down was a few months ago during the GM auto strike he was shut down. He more than made up for it when the strike ended. Let's hope that happens again over all of industry.
 
I work in healthcare...... we are still receiving surgical masks, gowns, and gloves. The problem at hospitals with active Coronavirus outbreaks is that each person that enters a room has to clothe up..... that leads to 1,000’s being used and thrown away daily.... then you have staff that is worried and hides PPE so that they know they will have access..... it adds up and overwhelms the system..... At the hospital here, they had to remove the masks from around visitors bc so many people were coming in and stealing them.
We handed them out like candy to visitors in Jan with all our flu pts. Instead of limiting to POAHC and one other guest which was suggested by the nursing staff. Now they are kept by the charge nurse. They still haven't limited visitation because they don't want to hurt their "community appearance" it's political.
 
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That is the healthcare infection control policy right now.... so every time a patient needs a drink, bathroom, vitals, or anything else.... a new mask is used
They need to just use one mask for the entire shift and have that RN/tech manage that one patient....falls under correct PPE standards and saves the supplies
 
We handed them out like candy to visitors in Jan with all our flu pts. Instead of limiting to POAHC and one other guest which was suggested by the nursing staff. Now they are kept by the charge nurse. They still haven't limited visitation because they don't want to hurt their "community appearance" it's political.
I’m not at a hospital but we have shut down all visitors
 
People should take reasonable precautions but it’s idiotic to call for a complete shutdown of the country. We are a JIT society now and shutting everything down for 3-4 weeks will kill more people than this bug.
They aren't shutting down everything quite yet. My company is one defined as critical infrastructure by DHS and we will keep rolling in trans and warehousing. There have been changes made for sure but extra large warehouses have a way of creating social distancing by themselves
 
They aren't shutting down everything quite yet. My company is one defined as critical infrastructure by DHS and we will keep rolling in trans and warehousing. There have been changes made for sure but extra large warehouses have a way of creating social distancing by themselves
I work for Sysco, we are still working. Much less of course due to the restaurants closing but I’m grateful my job still has Some work for me
 
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