Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[C-south]

Has Waffle House cut their hours? You know the end is near if WH is closed.

They can put some picnic tables outside.

 

[Rickyvol77]

This seems way off.

They have some outright morons leading them. The newest CDC projections for the entire world isn’t that much

 

[VolnJC]

I ordered a movie and had it instantly. You're doing something wrong.

We rented Midway..(which isn't as good as the original but still a decent film btw) and although it seemed to play well Amazon gave us a credit because of "streaming issues" We have also been getting credits by not choosing Prime delivery for orders

 

[volfanhill]

I'm more of a waffle lover. You're not one of those "pancakes are better than waffles" freaks, are you? Some crazy people out there that think that. I think their mommas dropped them on their heads.

I like French toast. But the Waffle House dominates hash browns

 

[508mikey]

Well, glad they were able to curtail that huge freak out.

Silver keeps the fire going by saying a mid June return -- idiot should be run out of the US

 

[Weezer]

I like French toast. But the Waffle House dominates hash browns

Talking about food is making me hungry.

 

[C-south]

It’s not the waffle it’s the hash browns

My girlfriend and I were eating at a Waffle House a couple years ago. The guy cooking was getting ready to put cheese on her hash browns and was having trouble getting the slice of cheese off top of the stack. He licked his fingers like he was trying to separate a couple sheets of paper to get the top piece off and put it on her hash browns. We walked out. I was rolling.

 

[DynaLo]

This seems way off.

 

[DynaLo]

Ummm.. did they just give the “say when” declaration to their citizens?

 

[Rifleman]

if that is your line of acceptance..
Then no one on this sites opinion should matter to you.

Virology has very little to do with opinion.

 

[sjt18]

Your comments about their healthcare are complete nonsense. The United States has the worst quality of healthcare of all first world countries.

No. That is simply false and ignorant. The US has a very screwy convoluted way of paying for health care. However we have the most innovative medical industry in the world and in terms of broad access the greatest quality in the world.

We rank around number 33 Wich is well behind every country with single payer healthcare.

Yeah. Anyone can make up a survey that delivers the results they want. And when the world needs new medicines and innovations... over half come from the US. Single payer rations care and leaves very little capital for R&D. People in those countries over pay for what they get.

Worse yet, countries like Canada transfer costs TO US. When a new medicine comes out in the US, the costs of R&D have to be covered by the early sales. Countries like Canada restrict margins on drug sales. Essentially they block drug companies from recouping R&D costs. That pushes even MORE of the burden on us.

The problem isn't that the US has too little government paid health care or regulation. The problem is we have far, far too much. The one sure way government could "help" is to force other countries to pay their "fair share" of R&D costs if they want the newest, best innovations and medicines before patents run out.

PS- the ONLY way those European countries were able to afford their socialized medicine is that we paid for most of their defense for about 80 years.

If they had our system the problem would have been 100 times worse because people would be too scared to go to the doctor for fear of the cost!

Costs driven up by ridiculous regulations and government interference in the free market. The actual cost of a doctor visit in the US is a fraction of what you or your insurance company gets charged. Regulations make up a large part as do invisible taxes where fixed pricing for government payments requires providers to transfer costs to private payers or insurers.

 

[sjt18]

Some truth here but we dont need social medicine to fix our problems imo. Our out of control greed and red tape caused by insurance companies and other interests fighting over pieces of the pie could be mitigated legislatively if we had elected officials with priciples. JMO

Sorry a bit strong for this format

Insurance company costs are blown up by government regulations and cost transfers. If a medicaid procedure pays X and that happens to be at or under cost then the doctor has to charge his private payers and insurers double margin to survive. Of course then private insurers have to raise premiums to cover costs... and get blamed.

The way out isn't even that hard. One, eliminate the laws that prop up the employer based system. Most of us would do better if we bought our health insurance like we bought our home insurance. Provide vouchers for the elderly and qualified "poor". Eliminate medicare and medicaid altogether in favor of a market approach. Two, eliminate the mountains of red tape and allow innovation in health care delivery. Libertarian Gary Johnson a few years ago said deregulation would lead to things like "Appendixes 'R Us"... place that specialize in high quality, narrowly focused care.

We need much LESS government and far more power of the consumer.

 

[DynaLo]

Medical folks..

not to be morbid, but have any guidelines been changed concerning the handling of deceased CV-19 patients vs normal deaths? Are they requiring cremation like China does?

I ask, because this just came out from China.

(1) Staff PPE: The staff must make sure they are fully protected by wearing work clothes, disposable surgical caps, disposable gloves and thick rubber gloves with long sleeves, medical disposable protective clothing, medical protective masks (N95) or powered air purifying respirators (PAPRs), protective face shields, work shoes or rubber boots, waterproof boot covers, waterproof aprons or waterproof isolation gowns, etc.
(2) Corpse care: Fill all openings or wounds the patient may have, such as mouth, nose, ears, anus and tracheotomy openings, by using cotton balls or gauze dipped in 3000-5000 mg/L chlorine-containing disinfectant or 0.5% peroxyacetic acid.
(3) Wrapping: Wrap the corpse with a double-layer cloth sheet soaked with disinfec-tant, and pack it into a double-layer, sealed, leak-proof corpse wrapping sheet soaked with chlorine containing disinfectant.
(4) The body shall be transferred by the staff in the isolation ward of the hospital via the contaminated area to the special elevator, out of the ward and then directly transported to a specified location for cremation by a special vehicle as soon as possible.
(5) Final disinfection: Perform final disinfection of the ward and the elevator.

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[OHvol40]

Admitedly, I haven't paid much attention to this and think it is the most overblown thing ever. But, now that is has consequences to my job, I am curious on a few things.

1. What is the criteria to test someone? NBA athletes have been tested and determined to have had the virus, despite not having a fever. Yet, one hospital I work with can only test people who have been overseas within the past month.

2. Since testing is limited, who determines whether an average feeling person gets a test, opposed to someone who is really sick, but cannot get one?

3. How long until we acquire more tests, so that everyone with reasonable cause to be tested can be tested?

4. When will the panic and hysteria end? One would figure, as testing becomes more prevalent, the numbers would go up based on the increased number of testing.

1-2: Probably depends on your state. Some states have drive-through testing. There is a screening for symptoms at most places. If your symptoms meet the criteria for testing you’ll be tested.

3: Again, it depends on your area. If we could count on federal agencies to provide adequate testing, there would be a uniform answer to this question. We can’t, so now it’s up to individual healthcare providers and states as to the testing provided. It will be at minimum a couple weeks until everyone who requires a test can get one.

4: We will be measuring this in months rather than weeks if that provides some context. The peak of the initial outbreak should be around 45 days. May be secondary outbreaks to follow.

 

[OHvol40]

Medical folks..

not to be morbid, but have any guidelines been changed concerning the handling of deceased CV-19 patients vs normal deaths? Are they requiring cremation like China does?

I ask, because this just came out from China.

(1) Staff PPE: The staff must make sure they are fully protected by wearing work clothes, disposable surgical caps, disposable gloves and thick rubber gloves with long sleeves, medical disposable protective clothing, medical protective masks (N95) or powered air purifying respirators (PAPRs), protective face shields, work shoes or rubber boots, waterproof boot covers, waterproof aprons or waterproof isolation gowns, etc.
(2) Corpse care: Fill all openings or wounds the patient may have, such as mouth, nose, ears, anus and tracheotomy openings, by using cotton balls or gauze dipped in 3000-5000 mg/L chlorine-containing disinfectant or 0.5% peroxyacetic acid.
(3) Wrapping: Wrap the corpse with a double-layer cloth sheet soaked with disinfec-tant, and pack it into a double-layer, sealed, leak-proof corpse wrapping sheet soaked with chlorine containing disinfectant.
(4) The body shall be transferred by the staff in the isolation ward of the hospital via the contaminated area to the special elevator, out of the ward and then directly transported to a specified location for cremation by a special vehicle as soon as possible.
(5) Final disinfection: Perform final disinfection of the ward and the elevator.

PDF预览

It’s not a prion like mad cow disease. Normal PPE is sufficient for the handling of this.

 

[sjt18]

There are about 70k ICU beds in the US most of which already have someone in them. The point of it all is to avoid the hospitals not having enough beds to treat the older people that will get it and most likely have to be hospitalized if it spreads at the rate it has so far...additionally to avoid the hospitals being so overrun that they don’t have room for someone with a heart attack or someone having a baby. I have a hard time understanding how people actually think we would put billions and billions of dollars in the trash for no reason other than “the news made it happen”

Of course you do. As soon as the first case was announced in the US, it was politicized. I'm not a Trump fan and didn't even vote for him last time (voted 3rd party). But Dems and their media allies immediately began to overstate the threat and accuse Trump of not doing a good job. Then they lost control of the narrative. It now has a life of its own and no one wants to be blamed for spreading it.


It is a simple FACT that H1N1 by this point in the 2009 pandemic and infected 10's of thousands of Americans and had killed thousands. Obama did not take decisive action until months later. In sum, about 13,000 Americans died of H1N1 in 2009. No panic. No cancelled classes. No travel restrictions. None of the stuff we're seeing now.

As of today, 108 people in the US have died from around 6500 cases. Since a significant number are asymptomatic and testing has not been available, it is highly likely that a significant number of cases were misdiagnosed or simply self-treated as a cold or flu. Even those numbers are skewed by the early outbreak in Kirkland, WA nursing homes. The flu would have done similar damage and never been considered newsworthy.

We're not talking about millions of $. The real losses are already in the trillions. People's livelihoods are under direct threat.

This response is not proportionate to the threat.

 

[volinsd]

Not every Walmart is open 24/7. The Supercenter here in LaFayette, is normally open 6am to midnight. It’s closing an hour earlier for the next few weeks.
Don’t be a drama queen.

I know that some walmarts arent 24/7. I just didnt see anything on the news about it the last couple days.

If you think that I was being a drama queen by bringing that up.....how in the heck do you read 85% of the posts in this forum?

Lighten up Francis

 

[volinsd]

It made the news in most places. Ours went to those hours like 2-3 months ago.

I honestly dont know how I missed it lol

 

[joevol33]

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Virology has very little to do with opinion.

So calling out, do we have any phd virologist who specialize in epidemiology who are published and peer reviewed answering questions on this site?

 

[37L1]

So calling out, do we have any phd virologist who specialize in epidemiology who are published and peer reviewed answering questions on this site?

I don't think so, but we do have lawyers who apparently don't know anything about the law.

 

[joevol33]

Hospital here has screening stations set up, only one person allowed on campus with the patient, and no one can go back for pre-op, or post- op. I passed the screening, but they wanted to quarantine me anyway. Said they'd never seen anyone this awesome, and wanted to study me more.


Gotta laugh a little

 

[TheDeeble]

There seems to be a disconnect somewhere with the predicted cases imo. I'm not arguing for or against here, but it seems odd when individual counties or states with significantly smaller populations are saying they expect to have or already have more infected than entire countries just doesn't match up. Like the state of Ohio claiming to already have 100,000 infected. Or the guy earlier saying his county was expecting between 15000-20000.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Medical folks..

not to be morbid, but have any guidelines been changed concerning the handling of deceased CV-19 patients vs normal deaths? Are they requiring cremation like China does?

I ask, because this just came out from China.

(1) Staff PPE: The staff must make sure they are fully protected by wearing work clothes, disposable surgical caps, disposable gloves and thick rubber gloves with long sleeves, medical disposable protective clothing, medical protective masks (N95) or powered air purifying respirators (PAPRs), protective face shields, work shoes or rubber boots, waterproof boot covers, waterproof aprons or waterproof isolation gowns, etc.
(2) Corpse care: Fill all openings or wounds the patient may have, such as mouth, nose, ears, anus and tracheotomy openings, by using cotton balls or gauze dipped in 3000-5000 mg/L chlorine-containing disinfectant or 0.5% peroxyacetic acid.
(3) Wrapping: Wrap the corpse with a double-layer cloth sheet soaked with disinfec-tant, and pack it into a double-layer, sealed, leak-proof corpse wrapping sheet soaked with chlorine containing disinfectant.
(4) The body shall be transferred by the staff in the isolation ward of the hospital via the contaminated area to the special elevator, out of the ward and then directly transported to a specified location for cremation by a special vehicle as soon as possible.
(5) Final disinfection: Perform final disinfection of the ward and the elevator.

PDF预览

We send the deceased with one of 2 tags. Infectious and not infectious.
We haven't had a covid19 death that we are aware of.

There seems to be a disconnect somewhere with the predicted cases imo. I'm not arguing for or against here, but it seems odd when individual counties or states with significantly smaller populations are saying they expect to have or already have more infected than entire countries just doesn't match up. Like the state of Ohio claiming to already have 100,000 infected. Or the guy earlier saying his county was expecting between 15000-20000.

Allot about this and the reported numbers don't match up.

 

[LouderVol]

That last coach of yours came a frog's hair away from beating us in Knoxville. Your team took their foot off our neck, played safe and we unleashed the Baker Mayfield.

That was a great game tho

Yup. I was there. That whole year was the same way. Florida and arkansas were the same way that year.