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I don't think it is inherently racist. I don't get that claim.

I do think it is a patently distractionary tactic by Trump and Fox to try to blame someone. I have seen on Fox over the last few days their reporters asking Republican members of Congress what punishment the Chinese should suffer for this. I'm not kidding. And it has been several times.

Its just a cheap effort to create someone to blame (other than Trump for his initially ambivalent response) when we have bigger problems on our hands.
It's ironic that you accuse this of being meant for distraction when your post was a blatant attempt to distract by mis-framing the question at hand. You quoted the people who showed all the times viruses are referred to by place of origin, and asking why the need to call this racist, and made the fallacious claim that they were saying that this one must be called by its place of origin.

That's a pretty clear and intellectually dishonest way to play the hand, lg.

No one is saying what it must be called. Some are pointing out the logical leap of race baiting.
 
It's ironic that you accuse this of being meant for distraction when your post was a blatant attempt to distract by mis-framing the question at hand. You quoted the people who showed all the times viruses are referred to by place of origin, and asking why the need to call this racist, and made the fallacious claim that they were saying that this one must be called by its place of origin.

That's a pretty clear and intellectually dishonest way to play the hand, lg.

No one is saying what it must be called. Some are pointing out the logical leap of race baiting.
It's so transparently pathetic.
 
I checked myself with a historic Google News search and I've seen Corona Virus, Wuhan Virus, Wuhan Corona Virus, COVID-19, and yes, Chinese Virus.

Now that everyone has been calling it several things, the "Trump-Evil" crowd is trying to rewrite history. Did you know that one of the great warnings and themes of the novel 1984 was the effective tyranny of brainwashing people by controlling their vocabulary?

There is more than plenty to accuse Trump of. You guys just lose credibility on the legitimate stuff when you invent bull**** to get wadded up about.

again with the "you guys".. are we talking about the media again?

It's a simple concept, everyone has been hearing the words "Corona Virus", and although not necessarily exact, it's the buzz word.. I'd stick with CV-19, personally.

If you want to mix it up in official announcements, you're not helping things.
 
So every new version of each illness has to be named by where it began?

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Yes genius, the point of origin or ground zero is crucial but you knew that already.
 
I did not say it was racist. I don't think it is. Its just creating a target for resentment of where it started to substitute and allow deflection away from criticism of Trump.

Don't get me wrong. I think any administration would have been caught largely flat-footed by this. The response would be slow from anyone, at least on the front end.

My criticism is that he could and should have been encouraging people to engage in the tactics he now espouses, but he should have been doing so three weeks ago. Instead of downplaying it because he was worried how it was going to affect him if the stock market went down, he should have listened to the experts earlier and shut up on the minimization.

There is no way to quantify the effects of his demeanor or his words. But I cannot begin to tell you the number of texts I got from Trump supporting friends of mine, or posts I saw on Facebook, that for a solid three weeks echoed the nonsense Trump was saying. Hoax. Overblown. Exaggerated. Media frenzy. The flu is worse.

Heck, you can still see people clinging to that outmoded way of thinking about this within the last 20 posts itt.
This is funny as hell. You criticize Trump for "creating a target of resentment" and then spend every word after that accusation trying to set Trump up as a target of resentment.

You are what you claim to hate.
 
I did not say it was racist. I don't think it is. Its just creating a target for resentment of where it started to substitute and allow deflection away from criticism of Trump.

Don't get me wrong. I think any administration would have been caught largely flat-footed by this. The response would be slow from anyone, at least on the front end.

My criticism is that he could and should have been encouraging people to engage in the tactics he now espouses, but he should have been doing so three weeks ago. Instead of downplaying it because he was worried how it was going to affect him if the stock market went down, he should have listened to the experts earlier and shut up on the minimization.

There is no way to quantify the effects of his demeanor or his words. But I cannot begin to tell you the number of texts I got from Trump supporting friends of mine, or posts I saw on Facebook, that for a solid three weeks echoed the nonsense Trump was saying. Hoax. Overblown. Exaggerated. Media frenzy. The flu is worse.

Heck, you can still see people clinging to that outmoded way of thinking about this within the last 20 posts itt.

Yeah, OK, I don't buy it. It's passive-aggressive at best. "I don't blame Trump but I blame Trump."
 
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Which of these names cause confusion?

Corona Virus, it's what everyone has heard from day one... If anyone wants to say Wuhan, at least that narrows it down a bit. If you want to change it up and say The China Virus... what's the point. Chances are there will be another virus originating in China. I guess we will have to say China Virus 2 Infective BoogieFlu... whatever though.

Again, I'd stick with CV-19, it's simple.
 
again with the "you guys".. are we talking about the media again?

It's a simple concept, everyone has been hearing the words "Corona Virus", and although not necessarily exact, it's the buzz word.. I'd stick with CV-19, personally.

If you want to mix it up in official announcements, you're not helping things.
You're in the "you guys" that are inventing criticisms, as you are part of the chorus that is bellyaching about Trump's use of "Chinese Virus".

What's so complicated about that?

You stick to whatever floats your boat. Like I said, the longer you keep bitching about stuff like this, the more risk you run of numbing people to the legitimate complaints you may bring up.
 
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Corona Virus, it's what everyone has heard from day one... If anyone wants to say Wuhan, at least that narrows it down a bit. If you want to change it up and say The China Virus... what's the point. Chances are there will be another virus originating in China. I guess we will have to say China Virus 2 Infective BoogieFlu... whatever though.

Again, I'd stick with CV-19, it's simple.
Right now, it's better known as "The Virus." Say it, everyone knows what you are talking about.

Or be a cool kid and call it "Rona."
 
Yeah, OK, I don't buy it. It's passive-aggressive at best. "I don't blame Trump but I blame Trump."


I am critical of Trump for his head in the sand demeanor for the first few weeks, yes.

I am less inclined to find fault for things like number of hospital beds available right now, etc.
 
I am critical of Trump for his head in the sand demeanor for the first few weeks, yes.

I am less inclined to find fault for things like number of hospital beds available right now, etc.
Keep it up, proving my point, that is.

Yoda lay de hoo.
 
donald says what? so democrats are the only people that sue? nice to see you lie like donald too. Do you have an orange hue as well? Combover to boot? Are you by chance, 6'3 239, and the healthiest person on Earth? Great genes....great blood lines. Top of your class?
Liberals like yourself are the scourge of society. Always wanting others to take care of you, you know cradle to grave. Hey that guys got money so he owes it to me. You and your's are the liars and the leeches that can't fend for yourselves.
 
I am critical of Trump for his head in the sand demeanor for the first few weeks, yes.

I am less inclined to find fault for things like number of hospital beds available right now, etc.
And you're also critical of Trump for being critical of China for their head in the sand demeanor for the first several months.

Trump-evil.

Please leave poor China alone!
 
And you're also critical of Trump for being critical of China for their head in the sand demeanor for the first several months.

Trump-evil.

Please leave poor China alone!

China is a rich nation thanks to the democrats I think we should hit them up for say a trillion dollars to help cover expenses 😷
 
Liberals like yourself are the scourge of society. Always wanting others to take care of you, you know cradle to grave. Hey that guys got money so he owes it to me. You and your's are the liars and the leeches that can't fend for yourselves.
He has been told that the white man is responsible for all his shortcomings. You know.....racism and stuff.
 
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