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#12,826
Persian Vol said:
I haven’t really spent much time on here, but I wanted to get something across. The reality is that the seriousness of this pandemic was present to many of us for some time now. Closing events, bars, and social distancing should not be regarded as warning signs to how big of a deal this is. The warning sign was once we realized this was in fact a pandemic. Closing things temporarily is simply the correct method of action to mitigate the disaster that would come. People should feel comfort in that we are taking these measures. I’m sure many of you are worried about our economy and jobs, but the reality is that if we don’t act on this early to prevent a situation in which our hospitals are over flooded due to a rapid influx of patients, we are going to suffer significant casualties. Doctors don’t want to be in a position where they have to choose which patients to save because of a lack of resources. Patients certainly don’t want to be in that position. The world is not ending. There is no need to panic. 2021 will exist. Life will be normal again. The economy will recover. But lives can’t come back. Stay home.
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Glad you offered your perspective.

Edit: Not trying to be a smart ass @Persian Vol , I do respect your insight and am glad you told us this.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
If you wind up in ICU they figure out what’s wrong with you. Flu, ‘Rona, bad case of the squirts.

If you stay home and OD on NyQuil then you go uncounted. I’d guess the mortality rate in North America is going to be much better than Asia and obviously Italy and our mocked healthcare system appears to be performing very well thus far.
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You know that's going to be hard on the left - global warming kills harmful viruses, and then our antiquated and shameful for profit health system is outperforming the beautifully designed socialized medical systems ... those really have to sting bad.
 
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OHvol40 said:
We have agreements between the federal government and American companies to mass produce vents, vent supplies and n95s... agreements for moments just like this that should have been addressed at least two weeks ago but are still unaddressed. Ventilators don’t expire so it’s a great investment but now we’re behind the eight ball.
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Don't think so. All those ventilators will be sitting unused on shelves. Business moguls hate unused capital investments and every square inch of storage space. They will have been scrapped when the next crisis rolls around. Why do you think more protective equipment and disposables weren't on the shelf when this happened?
 
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#12,834
NEOCON said:
You do realize he was responding to a post of mine and then I responded to his?

You latched onto that one part like a total retarded person would and totally missed the over arching point.

I know you want to sit at the big kids table but unfortunately you're just not there yet so put your bib back on, grab a kids menu, and go back to the children's table with the rest of your toddler friends on here.

I already raised three of my own kids and dont have the time or energy to raise you too.
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Then stop being a selfish ***** and consider your own children. It's obvious you don't give a furry rat's hind leg about anyone else.

You don't honestly care if your kids get this?
 
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#12,835
Rifleman said:
He stood at the podium 3 weeks ago and said we had 15 cases and it would soon go to zero and declared victory while doing nothing to expand the testing that would have allowed us to get ahead of the curve.
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And you seriously think he has done nothing since then? Spot on again. I’m going to call you butter because you’re on a roll.
 
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#12,836
AM64 said:
Don't think so. All those ventilators will be sitting unused on shelves. Business moguls hate unused capital investments and every square inch of storage space. They will have been scrapped when the next crisis rolls around. Why do you think more protective equipment and disposables weren't on the shelf when this happened?
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Thank you, you pointed to the exact reason profit has no place in healthcare.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Not all jobs provide health insurance. Trump and the GOP have systematically dismantled paths for people to get affordable health insurance as well.
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Yea that ACA was really affordable with $1,200 a month premiums and $15,000 deductibles. Crippling those that work to support the freeloaders is the way to go though.
 
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GhostVol said:
Then stop being a selfish ***** and consider your own children. It's obvious you don't give a furry rat's hind leg about anyone else.
You don't honestly care if your kids get this?
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No I dont cause the mortality rate under 18 is zero!
 
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#12,841
For the differing healthcare folk facilities observations in here....are y’all forgetting that two hospitals in the same town will have different and distinct issues and non-issues, now add in hospitals in different regions of a state, different states and different parts of the country.

Why are y’all blustering over whose individual experiences are right in the current situation?
 
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C-south said:
Yea that ACA was really affordable with $1,200 a month premiums and $15,000 deductibles. Crippling those that work to support the freeloaders is the way to go though.
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No one told you to have that plan. And you are grossly exaggerating things, as usual. We get it. You hate everything that isn't in your echo chamber.
 
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#12,844
Persian Vol said:
I haven’t really spent much time on here, but I wanted to get something across. The reality is that the seriousness of this pandemic was present to many of us for some time now. Closing events, bars, and social distancing should not be regarded as warning signs to how big of a deal this is. The warning sign was once we realized this was in fact a pandemic. Closing things temporarily is simply the correct method of action to mitigate the disaster that would come. People should feel comfort in that we are taking these measures. I’m sure many of you are worried about our economy and jobs, but the reality is that if we don’t act on this early to prevent a situation in which our hospitals are over flooded due to a rapid influx of patients, we are going to suffer significant casualties. Doctors don’t want to be in a position where they have to choose which patients to save because of a lack of resources. Patients certainly don’t want to be in that position. The world is not ending. There is no need to panic. 2021 will exist. Life will be normal again. The economy will recover. But lives can’t come back. Stay home.
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I get the impression that hospitals have the potential to be overrun with the virus. Seems as few healthcare workers are being tested. It also seems as though there could be a scenario where an entire hospital would be staffed by infected personnel, by necessity, while potentially infecting already vulnerable uninfected patients.

I hope this doom and gloom vision is just unfounded fear, but something tells me it's not. So, yeah, staying home isn't such a sacrifice.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
And you seriously think he has done nothing since then? Spot on again. I’m going to call you butter because you’re on a roll.
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No..... The point is that experts that know more about this than he does have been telling him since the get-go that this was going to be an issue.

But Trump knows better than anyone else, including those experts.

It only took the dumb ******* a month to figure it out when the rest of us were able to extrapolate what was going to happen.

Hell's bells! I saw what was coming and I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. What does that say about your guy?
 
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#12,849
GhostVol said:
No..... The point is that experts that know more about this than he does have been telling him since the get-go that this was going to be an issue.

But Trump knows better than anyone else, including those experts.

It only took the dumb ******* a month to figure it out when the rest of us were able to extrapolate what was going to happen.

Hell's bells! I saw what was coming and I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. What does that say about your guy?
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It says you are making a lot of assumptions about what is going on in the White House when you actually have zero idea.
 
#12,850
#12,850
DynaLo said:
A lesson long overdue. That fact that there are folks out there that don’t comprehend the completely interconnected relationships our economy runs/relies on is still mind blowing to me. Wtf are they actually teaching the younger generations?
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Huff says we don't actually need industry like we used to have, and if we do it should be automated. And that automation will create a "higher" class of workers. I haven't figured out how that works; if you have the same number of "higher class workers" then how do you also account for the cost of the hardware that replaced them? If you just displace those workers ...? And huff will also be along to say he didn't say that, but it sure sounds like what huff and his economist buddies always preach. That and offshoring our industry for cheap labor makes us better ... somehow.
 
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