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NorthDallas40 said:
So it’s part of the data they gather to know what to put in next season’s witch’s brew. They don’t want to just know you had the flu, they want to know WHICH strain of the flu. Thus if you’re that bad that you wind up in a hospital bed I think they’re gonna get the diagnosis right.

I tried to find something on how many people die of the flu outside of care facilities but I couldn’t find any data. Admittedly if a large number die outside of professional care from “the flu” that would skew the data opposite of what I’m proposing.

On your edit I don’t think so? We know nobody died from it last year anyway as we don’t have data for that right? But how many just gutted it out since it was a bad cold or the flu? 🤷‍♂️ Look at the breakdown of mortality based on age. If you’re south of 50 it’s more likely the doctor treating you will kill you out of incompetence rather than your own immune system not being up to the challenge.
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Just seems improbable that it took 3 months for somebody to almost die from it or people were almost dying from it without it being identified, plus it first shows up here in a (Air)port city with lots of travel to China and is spreading to large cities with regional airports and into rural areas in a fairly predictable pattern. The last part could be self-fulfilling to some extent since testing is still limited.
 
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NEOCON said:
Born there, lived there, best pizza in the country is in Parkersburg across from the high school....outside of that though it kinda sucks.


Football team will stomp you a new new hole though. Go Big Red!
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I’ve been there a few times... motorcycle trips and business trips. Used to do business with Union Carbide in S Charleston before and after they were acquired by Dow. Pretty cool state IMO. Once flying in, the dash lights led the pilots to believe the landing gear in the puddle jumper would not deploy, so we circled till we were almost out of gas. They had all the fire trucks out by the runway but we had landing gear after all... lol
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Just seems improbable that it took 3 months for somebody to almost die from it or people were almost dying from it without it being identified, plus it first shows up here in a (Air)port city with lots of travel to China and is spreading to large cities with regional airports and into rural areas in a fairly predictable pattern. The last part could be self-fulfilling to some extent since testing is still limited.
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Yeah, people dying from pneumonia, were likely dying from this... then again, who really knows when it hit here? I suppose you'd have to look at Washington State, or another hot spot.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump should not have been making unrealistic claims about an imminent vaccine. He was talking out of his butt. That never helps anyone.
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I agree with you in that this is not at all the moment to over promise and under deliver. I know he said the vaccine would be coming in months vs others saying a year to year and a half. I agree he needs to be more cautious with his wording right now and that is definitely not his strong suit.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Just seems improbable that it took 3 months for somebody to almost die from it or people were almost dying from it without it being identified, plus it first shows up here in a (Air)port city with lots of travel to China and is spreading to large cities with regional airports and into rural areas in a fairly predictable pattern. The last part could be self-fulfilling to some extent since testing is still limited.
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Why is it improbable? Elderly die from the "flu" and secondary infections as a result of the "flu" every year. How many people went to the Doc and were told that they had a "virus"? No one tested for CV-19 because they didn't know about it and had no way to test for it in the first place. All the symptoms mimic seasonal "flu". I don't think they went all CSI on deaths under these circumstances.

Wuhan is a city with over 11 million population. How many of those folks travel all over the world? How long did it take the Communist government to realize they had a problem, admit they had a problem, identify the problem/virus, do something about it and tell the world about it? During that process, how many infected people, you know those who showed no or minor symptoms, traveled outside of China?

It could also explain why we had cases of CV-19 pop up in places that had no known nexus to travel or people who were known to have been exposed.

The testing for this stuff shows that people either have it or were exposed to it. Just where is this testing taking place? Yep, in those places where that has been known to be the case. And guess what, cases turn up.

Wonder why there hasn't been a case in West Virginia? I bet you that if they tested enough people in West Virginia, they'd find it there too.
 
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hog88 said:
Oh he could have come out and said "hey screw the constitution and your civil rights". Yep he could have said that and you would have applauded I'm sure. He didn't and he handled it the right way, treating the citizens of TN like adults.
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Let's hope the citizens of tn act like adults.
 
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Why is it improbable? Elderly die from the "flu" and secondary infections as a result of the "flu" every year. How many people went to the Doc and were told that they had a "virus"? No one tested for CV-19 because they didn't know about it and had no way to test for it in the first place. All the symptoms mimic seasonal "flu". I don't think they went all CSI on deaths under these circumstances.

Wuhan is a city with over 11 million population. How many of those folks travel all over the world? How long did it take the Communist government to realize they had a problem, admit they had a problem, identify the problem/virus, do something about it and tell the world about it? During that process, how many infected people, you know those who showed no or minor symptoms, traveled outside of China?

It could also explain why we had cases of CV-19 pop up in places that had no known nexus to travel or people who were known to have been exposed.

The testing for this stuff shows that people either have it or were exposed to it. Just where is this testing taking place? Yep, in those places where that has been known to be the case. And guess what, cases turn up.

Wonder why there hasn't been a case in West Virginia? I bet you that if they tested enough people in West Virginia, they'd find it there too.
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Drop that hammer, cause you just nailed it.
 
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DynaLo said:
I’m still not buying, that even with the quarantine of their entire country and draconian responses by the CCP, that their released stats are even remotely accurate when Italy is making a hard run at the total death numbers shown in China.
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Who buys they remotely even came close to containing it to one province?

Utter nonsense. By the time you realize you have a problem, effing roadblocks are too late and damn ridiculous.
 
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37L1 said:
Why is it improbable? Elderly die from the "flu" and secondary infections as a result of the "flu" every year. How many people went to the Doc and were told that they had a "virus"? No one tested for CV-19 because they didn't know about it and had no way to test for it in the first place. All the symptoms mimic seasonal "flu". I don't think they went all CSI on deaths under these circumstances.

Wuhan is a city with over 11 million population. How many of those folks travel all over the world? How long did it take the Communist government to realize they had a problem, admit they had a problem, identify the problem/virus, do something about it and tell the world about it? During that process, how many infected people, you know those who showed no or minor symptoms, traveled outside of China?

It could also explain why we had cases of CV-19 pop up in places that had no known nexus to travel or people who were known to have been exposed.

The testing for this stuff shows that people either have it or were exposed to it. Just where is this testing taking place? Yep, in those places where that has been known to be the case. And guess what, cases turn up.

Wonder why there hasn't been a case in West Virginia? I bet you that if they tested enough people in West Virginia, they'd find it there too.
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I’m not disagreeing with you. What I stated was if you are admitted and wind up in critical condition then they’re gonna get the diagnosis right. If you’re trying to say people got sent home diagnosed with the flu and then died I just don’t see that as very likely. I think you’re gonna wind up in a hospital bed if you’re that bad and they’re gonna run tests on you and figure out what you’ve got.
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allvol123 said:
Who buys they remotely even came close to containing it to one province?

Utter nonsense. By the time you realize you have a problem, effing roadblocks are too late and damn ridiculous.
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The point is, they were probably not all jumping on jets to the US immediately. I imagine it spread a little outside of the contained area, but that doesn't mean that those people were frequent fliers.
 
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utvolpj said:
actually many are saying he was forced to by the media reaction

so now we are in favor of big govt bailouts? Hard to keep it all straight since it changes with the wind
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Better used for this than to bail out AIG who likely turned around and squandered it. They did cancel that big executive trip to whatever tropical location once it leaked out but had it not leaked it was on.
 
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No doubt it is in WV already. I was surprised to learn this evening that TX has 58 known cases yet has only had 200 tests done so far.
 
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