2020 Presidential Race

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MontyPython said:
We need to:

Rejoin the world economy with treaties.
Treat our allies like allies.
Don't cozy up to autocrats.
Address climate change.
Ensure health care continues.
Require mandatory background checks on guns.
Allow reasonable immigration.
Don't insult everyone who didn't vote for you.
Unite instead of divide.

Trump fails on every count. If you don't recognize these facts, you're part of the problem.
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lol... Your panties are bunched up so tight it affects your vision
 
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NashVol11 said:
Think harder. Logically, both are counterpoints to someone saying that black lives matter, disingenuously attempting to muddy the waters by implying that we're hearing "only black lives matter" when literally no one, anywhere, was saying that. It's the racist's version of snowflakery, finding a nonexistent reason to be offended ("they think only black people matter??") and screaming about it. Both phrases are trash in the same way that the textualist "we just care about all people" fake-innocent defenses of them are trash, and any actual "logic" will generally lead right back to that.
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What a load of crap.
 
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MontyPython said:
@LouderVol...

Treaties

Trump pulled out of the Paris accord, the TPP, and the Iranian agreement. Doing so is inexcusable and short sighted. We need to work with the rest of the world to address climate change. By not entering the TPP, we created a vacuum for China to step in and be the world leader instead of us. And how has Iran worked out? Obviously we should be working with them to prevent them from getting nuke weapons. At this rate they're going to mirror what happened with North Korea.

Autocrats

Donald Trump is beholden to Putin. I don't give a rat's a** what anybody else tries to say to defend him, it's painfully obvious obvious that there is something up here. I don't know what it is, I don't know what Russia is holding over Trump, but they're definitely holding something over him. Trump's subservience to Russia is an absolute disgrace.

Sadly, Putin is not the only autocrat in the world that Trump seems to love. It's just part and parcel with him to love people with a huge amount of power. There are many autocrats that he's embraced to this effect.

Allies

Trump seems to relish in being the spoiler. Instead of embracing our longtime allies like Germany, France and England, he loves to pepper them with insults and create discord when it comes to NATO. As you should be aware, he has said previously that NATO should be abolished. This runs counter to anybody who knows anything about the defense of Europe against our Communist foes.

Climate change

See treaties above.

Health Care

Donald Trump has repeatedly stated, and in fact ran a campaign, on abolishing Obama care. You're claiming that we still have health care only means that the system beat Trump's efforts to destroy it. We can actually think the late senator McCain for saving it.

Which raises another point. Donald Trump is not a builder he's a destroyer. He's not a proactive leader, he's a reactive sniper. He has no forward vision whatsoever. He's only reactive. He chooses to tear down and target pretty much everything that Obama did that in fact was largely positive for country.

Guns

As you should know, there's a loophole currently in the federal gun rules that allows 22% of guns purchased to avoid a background check. This loophole needs to be eliminated, and Trump has done nothing to do so.

Background Check Loophole

Immigration

I don't know how you could possibly defend Donald Trump on any immigration policies, as he openly ran on an anti immigrant platform. Not just illegal but also legal. Stephen Miller his primary assistant on this subject is a xenophobic racist. That's just simply fact.

It is also true that Trump has tried to reduce legal immigration by limiting the numbers of people who can enter this country by approximately 75%. Fortunately his efforts to do this were recently defeated in court at least for now. Regardless, legal immigration has declined under Trump. As the son of an immigrant, I despise Trump's animus towards alien people. Yet, they seem to be the only ones dumb enough to marry him. The irony.

Legal Immigration Has Declined Under Trump

Insulting People

This goes without saying. Donald Trump doesn't behave presidentially. He behaves like a 5th grader pretty much most of the time. Name calling by him is absolutely outrageous. The man has no class whatsoever. He has without a doubt degraded the office of the presidency.

Amazingly, he still calls for his political opponents to be jailed. We do not live in a Banana Republic. Ironically, what... 5 of Trump's own campaign members are facing prison time? Telling. Trump is a corrupt mfer. It is painfully evident as well that Trump would like to be president for the rest of his life.

Unite, Don't Divide

Case you missed it, Trump declared during his inaugural speech that if you didn't vote for him f**** you. His outlook of doom and gloom was absolutely foretelling, and an insight into the dark recesses of this f*cktard's head.

Former president George W. Bush, in fact, at the conclusion of Trump's inaugural address leaned over to Obama and said "That was some crazy sh*t."

W was right.

That crazy sh*t still currently occupies the White House.

Not for long.
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Your girl needs to kick your ass and knock some sense into you. :p
 
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MontyPython said:
@LouderVol...

Treaties

Trump pulled out of the Paris accord, the TPP, and the Iranian agreement. Doing so is inexcusable and short sighted. We need to work with the rest of the world to address climate change. By not entering the TPP, we created a vacuum for China to step in and be the world leader instead of us. And how has Iran worked out? Obviously we should be working with them to prevent them from getting nuke weapons. At this rate they're going to mirror what happened with North Korea.

Autocrats

Donald Trump is beholden to Putin. I don't give a rat's a** what anybody else tries to say to defend him, it's painfully obvious obvious that there is something up here. I don't know what it is, I don't know what Russia is holding over Trump, but they're definitely holding something over him. Trump's subservience to Russia is an absolute disgrace.

Sadly, Putin is not the only autocrat in the world that Trump seems to love. It's just part and parcel with him to love people with a huge amount of power. There are many autocrats that he's embraced to this effect.

Allies

Trump seems to relish in being the spoiler. Instead of embracing our longtime allies like Germany, France and England, he loves to pepper them with insults and create discord when it comes to NATO. As you should be aware, he has said previously that NATO should be abolished. This runs counter to anybody who knows anything about the defense of Europe against our Communist foes.

Climate change

See treaties above.

Health Care

Donald Trump has repeatedly stated, and in fact ran a campaign, on abolishing Obama care. You're claiming that we still have health care only means that the system beat Trump's efforts to destroy it. We can actually think the late senator McCain for saving it.

Which raises another point. Donald Trump is not a builder he's a destroyer. He's not a proactive leader, he's a reactive sniper. He has no forward vision whatsoever. He's only reactive. He chooses to tear down and target pretty much everything that Obama did that in fact was largely positive for country.

Guns

As you should know, there's a loophole currently in the federal gun rules that allows 22% of guns purchased to avoid a background check. This loophole needs to be eliminated, and Trump has done nothing to do so.

Background Check Loophole

Immigration

I don't know how you could possibly defend Donald Trump on any immigration policies, as he openly ran on an anti immigrant platform. Not just illegal but also legal. Stephen Miller his primary assistant on this subject is a xenophobic racist. That's just simply fact.

It is also true that Trump has tried to reduce legal immigration by limiting the numbers of people who can enter this country by approximately 75%. Fortunately his efforts to do this were recently defeated in court at least for now. Regardless, legal immigration has declined under Trump. As the son of an immigrant, I despise Trump's animus towards alien people. Yet, they seem to be the only ones dumb enough to marry him. The irony.

Legal Immigration Has Declined Under Trump

Insulting People

This goes without saying. Donald Trump doesn't behave presidentially. He behaves like a 5th grader pretty much most of the time. Name calling by him is absolutely outrageous. The man has no class whatsoever. He has without a doubt degraded the office of the presidency.

Amazingly, he still calls for his political opponents to be jailed. We do not live in a Banana Republic. Ironically, what... 5 of Trump's own campaign members are facing prison time? Telling. Trump is a corrupt mfer. It is painfully evident as well that Trump would like to be president for the rest of his life.

Unite, Don't Divide

Case you missed it, Trump declared during his inaugural speech that if you didn't vote for him f**** you. His outlook of doom and gloom was absolutely foretelling, and an insight into the dark recesses of this f*cktard's head.

Former president George W. Bush, in fact, at the conclusion of Trump's inaugural address leaned over to Obama and said "That was some crazy sh*t."

W was right.

That crazy sh*t still currently occupies the White House.

Not for long.
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wow. That's the longest post I have read in a long time that illustrates the complete butthurt you must be experiencing.

To just pick one though... it is about ****ing time that all the members of NATO start paying their fair share. All you leftist military hating commies should love that because it has a two fold effect. Returns more of our military home, and costs us less in the long run. But, oh... I forget... muh Trump.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
The problem with the world is old racist white men. Take it from me, the first black Vice President. I'm Joe O'Biden and I'm running for county commissioner of the United States. Look me over. If you like what you see then vote for me.....if not, vote for the other O'Biden....thanks.
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That's horse schit, man! Let's take it outside!
 
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I invented mayo.....back during WW2 when we were in the trenches fighting those Mexicans. We needed something to get the taste of spam out of our mouths. So we mixed some sea water along with some rifle shrapnel and Boom !! That's no marlarkey pal......that's the facts. Don't forget & vote O'Biden in September.
 
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MontyPython said:
@LouderVol...

Treaties

Trump pulled out of the Paris accord, the TPP, and the Iranian agreement. Doing so is inexcusable and short sighted. We need to work with the rest of the world to address climate change. By not entering the TPP, we created a vacuum for China to step in and be the world leader instead of us. And how has Iran worked out? Obviously we should be working with them to prevent them from getting nuke weapons. At this rate they're going to mirror what happened with North Korea.

Autocrats

Donald Trump is beholden to Putin. I don't give a rat's a** what anybody else tries to say to defend him, it's painfully obvious obvious that there is something up here. I don't know what it is, I don't know what Russia is holding over Trump, but they're definitely holding something over him. Trump's subservience to Russia is an absolute disgrace.

Sadly, Putin is not the only autocrat in the world that Trump seems to love. It's just part and parcel with him to love people with a huge amount of power. There are many autocrats that he's embraced to this effect.

Allies

Trump seems to relish in being the spoiler. Instead of embracing our longtime allies like Germany, France and England, he loves to pepper them with insults and create discord when it comes to NATO. As you should be aware, he has said previously that NATO should be abolished. This runs counter to anybody who knows anything about the defense of Europe against our Communist foes.

Climate change

See treaties above.

Health Care

Donald Trump has repeatedly stated, and in fact ran a campaign, on abolishing Obama care. You're claiming that we still have health care only means that the system beat Trump's efforts to destroy it. We can actually think the late senator McCain for saving it.

Which raises another point. Donald Trump is not a builder he's a destroyer. He's not a proactive leader, he's a reactive sniper. He has no forward vision whatsoever. He's only reactive. He chooses to tear down and target pretty much everything that Obama did that in fact was largely positive for country.

Guns

As you should know, there's a loophole currently in the federal gun rules that allows 22% of guns purchased to avoid a background check. This loophole needs to be eliminated, and Trump has done nothing to do so.

Background Check Loophole

Immigration

I don't know how you could possibly defend Donald Trump on any immigration policies, as he openly ran on an anti immigrant platform. Not just illegal but also legal. Stephen Miller his primary assistant on this subject is a xenophobic racist. That's just simply fact.

It is also true that Trump has tried to reduce legal immigration by limiting the numbers of people who can enter this country by approximately 75%. Fortunately his efforts to do this were recently defeated in court at least for now. Regardless, legal immigration has declined under Trump. As the son of an immigrant, I despise Trump's animus towards alien people. Yet, they seem to be the only ones dumb enough to marry him. The irony.

Legal Immigration Has Declined Under Trump

Insulting People

This goes without saying. Donald Trump doesn't behave presidentially. He behaves like a 5th grader pretty much most of the time. Name calling by him is absolutely outrageous. The man has no class whatsoever. He has without a doubt degraded the office of the presidency.

Amazingly, he still calls for his political opponents to be jailed. We do not live in a Banana Republic. Ironically, what... 5 of Trump's own campaign members are facing prison time? Telling. Trump is a corrupt mfer. It is painfully evident as well that Trump would like to be president for the rest of his life.

Unite, Don't Divide

Case you missed it, Trump declared during his inaugural speech that if you didn't vote for him f**** you. His outlook of doom and gloom was absolutely foretelling, and an insight into the dark recesses of this f*cktard's head.

Former president George W. Bush, in fact, at the conclusion of Trump's inaugural address leaned over to Obama and said "That was some crazy sh*t."

W was right.

That crazy sh*t still currently occupies the White House.

Not for long.
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Thank you for a response.

So much wrong with your beliefs. You believe what Trump says, not what he does or what happens. That is the difference I push.

Immigration, even before being shut down as many immigrants were approved as under Obama. I provided the numbers from the same source. You offer no proof i have no reason to change my belief. I provided proof, you should reconsider.

TPP and being a leader. We are a leader, by example. Biggest reduction in the energy field in green house gases, despite evil Trump. Who hasnt done anything to kill the reductions. You could argue that he has allowed for an increase, but the third party science says it's not happening. Stop fear mongering and look at the cold hard evidence. Again i provided proof in the actual numbers. Who cares what he says, i care about what happens and the science back up that we are a leader. This was my biggest problem with Obama. He spoke a lot about stuff he didnt know and killed so many cool building tech items that would have had huge impacts on energy use in order to push, almost singularly, PV. Long term obama did more bad than good. Take this from someone with two active building projects going for LEED.

I am guessing the gun thing has been argued before I got around to responding. Personal experience is enough to say this is bs. I have no reason to change my stance.

It's funny you bring up Russia. What has Trump given them? Nothing. Again as evidence look at the tiff between Russia and SA. That's something normal presidents would smooth over. Trumo has let it run and it is actively hurting Russia. Again you provide no proof, or links, as to why I should change my opinion.

I totally get not liking him for his speech. I dont either. My issue with this argument is people act like it's the first time. The sides always get testy. Rewind and we have the same discussions about Bush and Obama. It's what we have allowed politics to become. Which is why I constantly rail against our current system.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
wow. That's the longest post I have read in a long time that illustrates the complete butthurt you must be experiencing.

To just pick one though... it is about ****ing time that all the members of NATO start paying their fair share. All you leftist military hating commies should love that because it has a two fold effect. Returns more of our military home, and costs us less in the long run. But, oh... I forget... muh Trump.
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You have to love the political acumen of someone who regularly uses the word butthurt. What other baby words are you fond of? Doodoo and weewee?
 
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