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volbeast33 said:
I am 100% confident that there is not a politician alive that will balance the budget.... I am also 100% confident that our budget is more due to wasteful spending than it is to money they steal from me..... until they want to fix either of the two issues I mentioned, I want to keep as much money as possible.
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Trump cannot possibly win reelection if he is going to use this to end or "reform" SS and Medicare.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its not deaths/number of tests

Its deaths/number of cases
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You serious?

The number of cases is better quantified, the more tests are given. Thus, the mortality rate has been plummeting as nations have expanded testing. When all you're testing is extreme cases that seek treatment because the symptoms are heinous, the mortality rating will be high. When you expand tests and add the high % of low symptom/asymptomatics, the mortality rate plummets.
 
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Ernest T. Vol said:
From this article:
At the same time, he did clarify that 10 times figure actually brings the new coronavirus' fatality rate lower than official estimates, which hover around 3 percent. The flu has a mortality rate of about 0.1 percent, so, when considering the likelihood that there are many asymptomatic or very mild cases that have gone undiagnosed, Fauci places the new coronavirus' lethality rate at somewhere around 1 percent.
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So if only 10% of the population gets this, which from what I have read is a ver very low estimate, we are looking at over 300,000 deaths.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Merkel says that she thinks 70 % of Germany could eventually contract it.

Let's cut the number in half here. 35 %

35% of our population is 114 million people. A 1 % death rate translates to 1.14 million people dead.

Not to mention the long term consequences of it for those that survive, or the cost to deal with it, which will truly be enormous.
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I think that numbers a bit high. Even if we grant that more people have caught it than have been tested, the current epicenters of the virus aren't showing nearly that rate of infection.
 
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allvol123 said:
Wont SS and Medicare liabilities decrease dramatically with the drop in older population?
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How many are you expecting to die in the next few months?

Right now, near or just under 17% of the US population is over 65. That figure is expected to rise by 2050 to 22%.
 
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DynaLo said:
And that totally excuses being an asshat about people dying from this virus? What’s it going to be here in 10-14 days once we’re at the same virus time point as Italy? Are you ok with folks dying from it as long as it’s somebody else’s parents or grandparents?
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FLVOL_79 said:
Im ready for Wutang Flu to kill everyone it needs to so the stupid ass stock market stops acting like a scared petulant child.
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lawgator1 said:
Its not deaths/number of tests

Its deaths/number of cases
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How many of the actual cases are being tested? I think it's pretty obvious the testing amount/ accuracy is somewhat questionable.

I still say it's difficult to get an accurate read on it. Back on Jan 29 the "numbers" were predicting us to be in the millions of deaths worldwide before end the of February.

This is a copy/paste of a post from Jan 29th with what was predicted back then...If there are a lot more people out there that have it and it isn't known it will make the morbidity numbers look worse.

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And as you can see here.... Operations Dashboard for ArcGIS .....we're not even close to any of those numbers. It hasn't ballooned like they said yet. I think there's still too much unknown.
 
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DynaLo said:
How many are you expecting to die in the next few months?

Right now, near or just under 17% of the US population is over 65. That figure is expected to rise by 2050 to 22%.
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Well, LG is playing both sides. This is going to cause deaths beyond anything we have ever seen. So surely that means there will be significantly less SS and Medicare liability, correct?

I mean it is that much carnage, right?
 
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TheDeeble said:
How many of the actual cases are being tested? I think it's pretty obvious the testing amount/ accuracy is somewhat questionable.

I still say it's difficult to get an accurate read on it. Back on Jan 29 the "numbers" were predicting us to be in the millions of deaths worldwide before end the of February.
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No one is dying from this because they’ve already been killed by gun violence and net neutrality.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You serious?

The number of cases is better quantified, the more tests are given. Thus, the mortality rate has been plummeting as nations have expanded testing. When all you're testing is extreme cases that seek treatment because the symptoms are heinous, the mortality rating will be high. When you expand tests and add the high % of low symptom/asymptomatics, the mortality rate plummets.
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Right. But the number of tests is itself a meaningless number in the correct equation.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I’m saying if you believe there is going to be hundreds of thousands of US deaths from this virus, you are an ignorant alarmist
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I am saying that the head of this task force says he expects it to kill 1% of those infected. 10% worse then the flu. So now the question is what percent of the population gets infected. Some scientists are saying 40%. I am not privy to the meetings you attend. All I can do is read what info is out there and assume that the guy who heads this up says it’s going to kill 1% of the people who get it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Right. But the number of tests is itself a meaningless number in the correct equation.
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Cool. I apologize if I misinterpreted your point. I think the important thing here is that as testing increases, mortality % decreases for the reasons stated above.
 
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#6,900
Hey, according to the "highest" authority this has outbreak been under control in the US for a while now. Listen to your president and take a lesson from this guy:


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