2020 Presidential Race

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luthervol said:
I haven't even voted in the primary yet. Who are my choices?
And what is it you are suggesting I do?
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Vote for who you actually want. Stop tolerating crap because it's not Trump.

I look at our system and wonder how anyone can defend either side. It ticks me off that political discourse is "at least we arent..." in this nation. Vote for someone that can actually stand on their own. Vote for someone you would actually personally publically support to those you know. Vote for someone you dont mind critiquing honestly.
 
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luthervol said:
There were 3 things listed: experience, which I said was secondary to me; and philosophy and priorities, which I listed as my criteria.
I think character and morals are encompassed in both philosophy and priorities, at least to a degree.
Now is it possible that a person could have high character and morals but differing philosophies and priorities than mine? possible
Now is it possible that a person could have weak character and morals but the same philosophies and priorities as mine? possilbe
Both are partially possible but highly unlikely.
Is it possible that a person from scenario one runs against a person from scenario two? possible, but extremely unlikely.
(The possibility of two highly unlikely events both occurring - is approaching that 300 year anomaly status)
Now if that next to impossible event did happen, what would I do? I would have to consider multiple variables.
If a Carter-like republican was running against a Trump-like dem, I would vote republican.
Luckily, that is a definitional impossibility.
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So then, IF Biden wins, and it's a good bet Hillary will be his running mate, and they 25th Biden, will youthen be touting HRC's high character and morals. You're life could depend on it.
 
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LouderVol said:
Vote for who you actually want. Stop tolerating crap because it's not Trump.

I look at our system and wonder how anyone can defend either side. It ticks me off that political discourse is "at least we arent..." in this nation. Vote for someone that can actually stand on their own. Vote for someone you would actually personally publically support to those you know. Vote for someone you dont mind critiquing honestly.
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So in the upcoming primary in GA, what is it you are suggesting I do?
I understand your critique of the system. It sux. We all agree.
 
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GVF said:
So then, IF Biden wins, and it's a good bet Hillary will be his running mate, and they 25th Biden, will youthen be touting HRC's high character and morals. You're life could depend on it.
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That's quite the hypothetical.
Hillary's character and morals are far better that Trump's. IMO
But it would be more the differing philosophies and priorities that would please me.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't see how any Trumper can bring up presidential qualifications as a necessary criteria.
Trump had none.
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The constitutional requirements for POTUS are pretty simple. It’s a matter of opinion on anything beyond 36 years of age, natural born citizen and the residency requirement. Trump is qualified for the office.
 
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luthervol said:
That's quite the hypothetical.
Hillary's character and morals are far better that Trump's. IMO
Bit it would be more the differing philosophies and priorities that would please me.
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No they're not. Do you intentionally blind yourself to how bad Hillary is? You have to. Even a blind man can see how crooked she is.
 
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luthervol said:
That is so ridiculous. How naive and gullible is the intended audience?
Over the past four presidential elections, democrats will have had one white male candidate (25%). Read......diversity
Over the past four presidential elections, repubs will have had four white male candidates (100%). Read.......party of white males
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Cut the bull$hit. Every time there is a black conservative he or God forbid she is ridiculed as an Uncle Tom or a House ————- and ridiculed beyond repair . No wonder there aren’t more AA conservatives. Who would want to live a life where you’re under constant scrutiny for believing something that you’re basically shunned for? You guys basically decided that it’s uncool to be a conservative and you’re narrowing down the field by ridicule and scare tactics so that White guys can be those candidates. Then you have the nerve to cry racism and claim to be the party of diversity.

And You know who should be the most pissed? Obama. Just because he won and he’s black you guys think that’s the damn ticket and can just roll out any minority as a candidate. It’s like you took everything he did for granted because he’s black and not realizing how good he was at what he did. Then when you roll out a bunch of zeros that nobody wants to vote for it becomes racist.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Cut the bull$hit. Every time there is a black conservative he or God forbid she is ridiculed as an Uncle Tom or a House ————- and ridiculed beyond repair . No wonder there aren’t more AA conservatives. Who would want to live a life where you’re under constant scrutiny for believing something that you’re basically shunned for? You guys basically decided that it’s uncool to be a conservative and you’re narrowing down the field by ridicule and scare tactics so that White guys can be those candidates. Then you have the nerve to cry racism and claim to be the party of diversity.

And You know who should be the most pissed? Obama. Just because he won and he’s black you guys think that’s the damn ticket and can just roll out any minority as a candidate. It’s like you took everything he did for granted because he’s black and not realizing how good he was at what he did. Then when you roll out a bunch of zeros that nobody wants to vote for it becomes racist.
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Give it a break.
Reagan's strategy in the 80's was to bastardize the term "liberal". The whole right wing propaganda machine worked to make "liberal" a negative term. Go back and watch any republican political ad from the last 40 years.
 
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luthervol said:
Give it a break.
Reagan's strategy in the 80's was to bastardize the term "liberal". The whole right wing propaganda machine worked to make "liberal" a negative term. Go back and watch any republican political ad from the last 40 years.
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The left wing propaganda machine has been labeling anyone who disagrees with them "racist" for at least as long. Attacking each other is what the parties do.
 
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Fox News election town hall with Trump is Most Watched in Cable History

Fox News’ town hall with President Trump on Thursday was the most-watched election town hall in cable news history, according to early Nielsen media research.

The event co-moderated by Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum averaged 4.2 million viewers from 6:30-7:30 p.m. ET. The record-setting town hall dominated cable news, topping MSNBC’s 1.4 million viewers and CNN’s 1 million viewers combined.

Fox News also beat CNN and MSNBC combined in the key news demographic of adults age 25-54, averaging 744,000 during the town hall.

Fox News election town hall with Trump is most watched in cable history
 
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luthervol said:
Give it a break.
Reagan's strategy in the 80's was to bastardize the term "liberal". The whole right wing propaganda machine worked to make "liberal" a negative term. Go back and watch any republican political ad from the last 40 years.
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Yea sometimes the truth hurts. The word “bastardized” is the wrong word, the proper word should be “mocked” and rightfully so. Here’s a few examples of bastardized words to help you out: “equality”, “tolerance”, “oppressed”, “progressive”....
 
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hog88 said:
8 Trump business entities filed for bankruptcy. Trump has never filed for bankruptcy. That Is 8 out of how many?
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So failing at 8 businesses to the extent of needing to file bankruptcy is okay since it wasn't an individual bankruptcy. You people will make yourselves believe anything to support this POS. If a Dem had filed 8 business bankruptcies you sheep would be destroying him/her.
 
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bnhunt said:
So failing at 8 businesses to the extent of needing to file bankruptcy is okay since it wasn't an individual bankruptcy. You people will make yourselves believe anything to support this POS. If a Dem had filed 8 business bankruptcies you sheep would be destroying him/her.
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Several Dems have more than 8 bankruptcies in their business history. It happens.
 
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bnhunt said:
So failing at 8 businesses to the extent of needing to file bankruptcy is okay since it wasn't an individual bankruptcy. You people will make yourselves believe anything to support this POS. If a Dem had filed 8 business bankruptcies you sheep would be destroying him/her.
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The number is actually 6 times from everything I’ve read , between the years of 1991-2009 and that’s out of 500+ Businesses . I’ll take those odds as a businessman everyday of the week , and so would anyone else .

President Trump’s Bankruptcies; Just the Facts — Lucas Ruffing Law
 
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Sea Ray said:
Well he didn't get elected because of his spouse. If Michelle was married to you or me she'd have no chance. Trump had no base. Even Republicans were against him. He overcame all that and won by people voting for him. It's really amazing what he accomplished. Bloomberg fell flat on his face trying to duplicate it
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At least Bloomberg didn't have that far to fall.
 
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