Musk wants to build spaceships

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0nelilreb said:
We should be asking how much tax payer funding of any kind , from any agency , he’s received so far . I’d be really curious to know .
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I read where Tesla has improved the $/Kwh efficiency of the batteries so much that they can be profitable without the subsidies, none of the other EV car makers are remotely close to getting down to $100/kwh. The 100/kwh is where the battery reaches parity with gasoline engines without subsidies. I just bought a new car (Q5) and though I looked at ev's, my next one will almost certainly be one.
 
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Septic said:
I read where Tesla has improved the $/Kwh efficiency of the batteries so much that they can be profitable without the subsidies, none of the other EV car makers are remotely close to getting down to $100/kwh. The 100/kwh is where the battery reaches parity with gasoline engines without subsidies. I just bought a new car (Q5) and though I looked at ev's, my next one will almost certainly be one.
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That’s what we did for most of the day yesterday . The crossovers are hot right now , you can’t swing a cat without hitting one here in Norfolk . I hope by the time we look at getting another one they will have worked out all the kinks with the batteries . If he ( Musk) can just figure out a way to shrink the size just a little more and still deliver the power and fuel economy , he can ( probably will ) flood the market with all thing Tesla .
 
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0nelilreb said:
That’s what we did for most of the day yesterday . The crossovers are hot right now , you can’t swing a cat without hitting one here in Norfolk . I hope by the time we look at getting another one they will have worked out all the kinks with the batteries . If he ( Musk) can just figure out a way to shrink the size just a little more and still deliver the power and fuel economy , he can ( probably will ) flood the market with all thing Tesla .
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I think if he can get 400-450 miles of battery life and squeeze it into a <$40k car it'd be hard not to pull the trigger on that provided the QC stayed consistent. I looked at the Audi e-tron and the Tesla Model Y, I'm just not ready to make that leap psychologically, I'm getting there though...
 
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If you count the essentially free shipping he gets from the post office, i guess that's tax payer funded. I forgot what deal he has but it comes to a nice deal for him
 
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Septic said:
I think if he can get 400-450 miles of battery life and squeeze it into a <$40k car it'd be hard not to pull the trigger on that provided the QC stayed consistent. I looked at the Audi e-tron and the Tesla Model Y, I'm just not ready to make that leap psychologically, I'm getting there though...
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I think you are spot on with those numbers . If they could get somewhere around those numbers and put it in a small crossover for somewhere between 30-40k .. he would be the next Ford .
 
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happy-go_vol said:
If you count the essentially free shipping he gets from the post office, i guess that's tax payer funded. I forgot what deal he has but it comes to a nice deal for him
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I think you're confusing musk with bezos.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I think you are spot on with those numbers . If they could get somewhere around those numbers and put it in a small crossover for somewhere between 30-40k .. he would be the next Ford .
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Yeah, as more and more chargers spring up around the country it'll be even easier. Eventually I'd wager that inductive chargers are common place, like the Qi phone chargers, but for cars.
 
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Septic said:
Yeah, as more and more chargers spring up around the country it'll be even easier. Eventually I'd wager that inductive chargers are common place, like the Qi phone chargers, but for cars.
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I have seen some at bigger convenient store but they seem to be really far apart on interstates . When we see Pilots / flying J’s setting rows of them up , it will be no turning back then .
 
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We gotta speed up space travel I know I’m not expecting us to hit Warp drive or light speed but we need to find some means of a faster fuel source so we can get to Mars quicker than 6 months and other places in our galaxy.
 
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Septic said:
I read where Tesla has improved the $/Kwh efficiency of the batteries so much that they can be profitable without the subsidies, none of the other EV car makers are remotely close to getting down to $100/kwh. The 100/kwh is where the battery reaches parity with gasoline engines without subsidies. I just bought a new car (Q5) and though I looked at ev's, my next one will almost certainly be one.
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Started looking at getting a Model 3 myself, but a coworker said when he got a loaner while his was being repaired, he got a S and said it was nicer with more space. New BMW i4 looks promising too for next year.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
Started looking at getting a Model 3 myself, but a coworker said when he got a loaner while his was being repaired, he got a S and said it was nicer with more space. New BMW i4 looks promising too for next year.
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I'll bet that BMW is going to be nice but very expensive. When I was shopping last month at Audi, I got a little chub looking at the e-tron. It was beautiful, but the specs compared to Tesla weren't even in the same ballpark. I'll bet it's going to take a while for the manufacturers to catch up with Teslas technology.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
Started looking at getting a Model 3 myself, but a coworker said when he got a loaner while his was being repaired, he got a S and said it was nicer with more space. New BMW i4 looks promising too for next year.
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The S is very nice. It's also nearly $100,000 for the long-range model.
 
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Septic said:
I'll bet that BMW is going to be nice but very expensive. When I was shopping last month at Audi, I got a little chub looking at the e-tron. It was beautiful, but the specs compared to Tesla weren't even in the same ballpark. I'll bet it's going to take a while for the manufacturers to catch up with Teslas technology.
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The article I read estimated they’ll price about $50k, but I don’t think they could price it that cheap based on the looks of it.
 
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Septic said:
Yeah, as more and more chargers spring up around the country it'll be even easier. Eventually I'd wager that inductive chargers are common place, like the Qi phone chargers, but for cars.
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Can't I just install a tow hitch, and tow a diesel generator on a small trailer to provide constant power?
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
We gotta speed up space travel I know I’m not expecting us to hit Warp drive or light speed but we need to find some means of a faster fuel source so we can get to Mars quicker than 6 months and other places in our galaxy.
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Why? How about putting the astronomical amount of money that will cose into, I dont know, helping things and the people of Earth?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I'm thinking very seriously about getting a 3.
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Watch the TFLcar series on YouTube where the owners son backs one into the door frame and does what looks like minor damage. It took months and cost probably 5 times what a normal car would have cost to fix.
 
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