2020 Presidential Race

I'm pretty sure I've already said he's a POS human being, so I'm not sure what you're getting at? We could play this same game with any of the last few Presidents.
Like I said, I’m trying to establish a list of unobjectionable POS actions so that those of us who find his shittiness to be disqualifying can discuss them without getting sidetracked by objections as to the veracity or shittiness of his various ****** activities.
 
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We had plans until the convention. Something happened over the weekend ,and it wasn't South Carolina, we knew that was a tough state for us. I don't know what, but here we are.

My guess is that is was strongly “suggested” to MP that he should withdraw before Super Tuesday if he wanted any part in the future of the party.
 
Like I said, I’m trying to establish a list of unobjectionable POS actions so that those of us who find his shittiness to be disqualifying can discuss them without getting sidetracked by objections as to the veracity or shittiness of his various ****** activities.
Did you support Bill Clinton? Simple yes or no will do.
 
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I did. And you didn't answer my question.
No. You said it made him a POS. Somebody else said it made him just human. We’re trying to develop a consensus of objectionable Trump behavior. One person objecting and saying it’s not POS behavior destroys the consensus.

So far we have maybes on embezzlement of funds and advocating political violence.

Ironically, we only have “maybes” because people demanding “yes or no” won’t give straight answers. But like I said consensus, not consistency.
 
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I don't see it as defending Trump to say accusation do not equal guilt. IF he did it, he's a perv. Still, no criminal charges were filed. With the exception of Hillary, I try not to assume any one is guilty until it's proven so.

If you don't like Trump, fine, don't vote for him. I didn't vote for him. I won't vote for him this time. I simply won't vote in the Presidential election because I'm not a fan of any of the candidates. But tell me this, despite him being a horrible human being, what has he actually done to show he's a terrible President? Even horrible people can be good Presidents. We've had several.

End of the day, he won the election. That makes him President. No one says you have to like him. No one says you have to vote for him. But if he wins again, he'll still be the lawfully elected President. Instead of arguing about accusations where charges were never filed, why not talk about the job he's doing as President?
Well, I never claimed to like Trump and that was long before he ever smelled an election.. I have seen you posting on the other parts of the boards, and you are a likeable person. The problem here is when you defend him at all cost, it makes me skeptical about your claim that you are just playing "devil's advocate". The reason why is there are only about six strong Democrats who post here on a obviously bias Republican board. It's easy to argue with Luther and Mick, when everyone gangs up on them.

If you truly are as you say, I suggest you watch Septic or Rocky and see how it's done on a much harder path. Otherwise, if you like Trump, then just own it.

In other news, I know Justin thinks I'm a far lefty loon since I'm a "Never Trumper", but I'm seriously trying to figure out who to vote for in a not very great field and getting worse by the moment. While many treat EL and VELO like villains, it is helpful to see all sides of the election, and not just the FOX news portion. I could just stay on Twitter and read all the anti-Trump rhetoric or watch MSNBC, but I post here to see opinions from the other side, especially those who try to open their mind, even though I know their opinions won't be changed by me.
 
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wow.. Well, she was the one I actually gave a bit of money too. Edit: I think this is as much about Bloomberg trying to buy the election as it is about Sanders, who is way too far left and not really a Democrat.

Dont' worry. Any of these democrats will give be happy to take your money through taxation later.
 
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wow.. Well, she was the one I actually gave a bit of money too. Edit: I think this is as much about Bloomberg trying to buy the election as it is about Sanders, who is way too far left and not really a Democrat.
Apparently she’s endorsing Joe tonight. Buddy of mine is speculating that she’ll be his VP. Seems odd but it may end up moving her closer to the presidency once Joe gets impeached. 😁
 
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No. You said it made him a POS. Somebody else said it made him just human. We’re trying to develop a consensus of objectionable Trump behavior. One person objecting and saying it’s not POS behavior destroys the consensus.

So far we have maybes on embezzlement of funds and advocating political violence.

Ironically, we only have “maybes” because people demanding “yes or no” won’t give straight answers. But like I said consensus, not consistency.
Just out of curiosity, before you do business with someone do you ask or go through their previous sexual history and other background info or do you go by results?
 
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