2020 Presidential Race

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FLVOL_79 said:
How are democrats pro abortion but anti death penalty?

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I'm about to blow your mind - I'm not "pro abortion" and am actually against it, but I do not believe that I have the right to tell a woman in Chicago or New York or wherever what she can or cannot do with her body, but apparently you believe you have that right.
 
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JCP201 said:
Don't understand why Republicans and Trump are more worried about Sanders than most Democrats. I guess they think he is easily defeated, but I'm not so sure. The strong passion is with his base, and you have to take a bet that people hate Trump less than Bernie's policies, and I don't think that is a safe bet.

I think the rest of us are voting for some old guy like Biden who believes in science (no conspiracy theories) and will at least pretend to embrace us all-- definitely not continue to push hate rhetoric. He's not young-- gets one term and hopefully gives the country a chill pill. Also, with Biden in particular, I do think he will be very serious about getting our health care going down the right road, since his son died of cancer and knows how that feels.

As for abortion issue, from what I have read, it has actually went down in numbers. You over turn it, then women will just go to coat hanger hacks and potions as they have since practically the beginning of time. I am anti-abortion, but I know it will happen anyway--just not as safely. It won't be over turned.
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It's a no win situation at this point. True Democrats, moderates, and independents aren't going to vote for Bernie. On the flip side, if Bernie gets the nomination taken away from him his supporters isn't going to vote for Biden.
 
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JCP201 said:
Don't understand why Republicans and Trump are more worried about Sanders than most Democrats. I guess they think he is easily defeated, but I'm not so sure. The strong passion is with his base, and you have to take a bet that people hate Trump less than Bernie's policies, and I don't think that is a safe bet.

I think the rest of us are voting for some old guy like Biden who believes in science (no conspiracy theories) and will at least pretend to embrace us all-- definitely not continue to push hate rhetoric. He's not young-- gets one term and hopefully gives the country a chill pill. Also, with Biden in particular, I do think he will be very serious about getting our health care going down the right road, since his son died of cancer and knows how that feels.

As for abortion issue, from what I have read, it has actually went down in numbers. You over turn it, then women will just go to coat hanger hacks and potions as they have since practically the beginning of time. I am anti-abortion, but I know it will happen anyway--just not as safely. It won't be over turned.
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Have you listened to Biden actually talk? He struggles to make coherent sentences. Trum doesn’t do hate rhetoric.... he just speaks equally the same towards each group.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Yep, I donated several times to Pete.
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Gah... Well Zepp although it didnt work out this time, I envy you in that you found a person that you can believe in enough to donate and volunteer in their behalf. What do the candidates do with the extra money after suspending a campaign?
 
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volbeast33 said:
Have you listened to Biden actually talk? He struggles to make coherent sentences. Trum doesn’t do hate rhetoric.... he just speaks equally the same towards each group.
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Okay, no hate rhetoric from Trump... Such a kind man to all of us who happen to disagree with him. (You know, like Dems want millions to die of CV in America because we dislike Trump)

As for making coherent sentences, Trump is worse... At least Biden admits he has problems with stuttering and has since childhood.

 
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bnhunt said:
I love it everytime you sheep are forced to defend something that Trump does, which is pretty much daily. It has to hurt to know that you have lost all morality and sense of what's right and wrong merely to try to stay in power. It will all come crashing down on you hypocrites soon enough.
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Anyone on the Democrat side trying to claim the high ground on morality is laughable. Every Democrat candidate for President is in favor of late term abortion up to and even after birth, killing babies by the hundreds of thousands, and they are all in favor of hiding known and wanted criminal illegal immigrants in sanctuary cities and derailing ICE's attempt to apprehend them, many of these illegals are wanted for murder and rape. The fact you would actually cast a vote for any one of these evil pieces of scum and then try to claim the moral high ground and lecture others on what's right and wrong is ridiculous. Save your idiotic lectures for the sheep of your own side.
 
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JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
Anyone on the Democrat side trying to claim the high ground on morality is laughable. Every Democrat candidate for President is in favor of late term abortion up to and even after birth, killing babies by the hundreds of thousands, and they are all in favor of hiding known and wanted criminal illegal immigrants in sanctuary cities and derailing ICE's attempt to apprehend them, many of these illegals are wanted for murder and rape. The fact you would actually cast a vote for any one of these evil pieces of scum and then try to claim the moral high ground and lecture others on what's right and wrong is ridiculous. Save your idiotic lectures for the sheep of your own side.
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Agree, they are the true scum of America.
 
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JCP201 said:
Okay, no hate rhetoric from Trump... Such a kind man to all of us who happen to disagree with him. (You know, like Dems want millions to die of CV in America because we dislike Trump)

As for making coherent sentences, Trump is worse... At least Biden admits he has problems with stuttering and has since childhood.

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Trump definitely is not the best speaker and I was not referring to his stuttering.... he, seriously, acts like something is wrong with him....... being a kind man is entirely different from someone spouting hate rhetoric.
 
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utvols88 said:
Gah... Well Zepp although it didnt work out this time, I envy you in that you found a person that you can believe in enough to donate and volunteer in their behalf. What do the candidates do with the extra money after suspending a campaign?
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I don't know what he has planned. Whatever he does, I'm glad I donated to it. I'll do it again when he runs in 2024.
 
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bnhunt said:
Why do you get to choose what a woman does with her body? You people want the govt out of your lives unless you want them to be involved. Another contradiction.
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I don’t think anyone cares what she does to her body..... they have issue with her destroying another body that happens to be living inside of her.
 
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JCP201 said:
Okay, no hate rhetoric from Trump... Such a kind man to all of us who happen to disagree with him. (You know, like Dems want millions to die of CV in America because we dislike Trump)

As for making coherent sentences, Trump is worse... At least Biden admits he has problems with stuttering and has since childhood.

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Stuttering isn't the issue, forgetting what state he's in, forgetting what office he's running for and groping little kids are his issues
 
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hog88 said:
Zep, I'm shocked that he dropped out. I was sure he would stay in it just to build name recognition for another run in 2024. DNC must have made him a deal he couldn't refuse.
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We had plans until the convention. Something happened over the weekend ,and it wasn't South Carolina, we knew that was a tough state for us. I don't know what, but here we are.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Biden has a chance against Trump. Bernie will get destroyed in a landslide.
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I think Bernie could have beaten trump last time if it wasn't taken away from him by the party. Biden could have too but he's too far gone this time.

I have no clue why the dnc feels the need to exert so much control over the process and why their followers continue to support it. They wil simply nominate who they choose and dems have no spine and will always check that box like they're told. Party uber alles
 
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