The Impeachment Thread

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luthervol said:
The house investigating Clinton not only did not have to deal with those delays, they were provided all of the testimonies and documentation from the Starr investigation. They basically had all of the evidence handed to them. The house investigating Trump had the exact opposite experience. It would have taken years to fight every attempt by Trump to block witnesses and the release of documentation. Had the dems. taken that route, the impeachment investigation would have still been ongoing during the entire 2020 election. The decision was made that that would not be good for anybody, especially the country.
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No there was an independent counsel in President Trump's situation. Only difference is the Dems were furious they couldn't impeach over Mueller's findings and then had a CIA hack Eric C go to work.
 
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Oh ok... they’re talking about subpoenas now with the president. The white woman, whoever she is. The grey hair and the glasses.
 
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vols40 said:
No there was an independent counsel in President Trump's situation. Only difference is the Dems were furious they couldn't impeach over Mueller's findings and then had a CIA hack Eric C go to work.
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I'm not sure that Ciarmella was the so called whistleblower. I'm not sure there was an actual "whistleblower," but that the WB is a fictional person made up by Schiff and staff, to take advantage of the whistleblower statute. I wouldn't call Ciarmella as a witness. I'm sure he was in on it, but that's as far as I would go.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I'm not sure that Ciarmella was the so called whistleblower. I'm not sure there was an actual "whistleblower," but that the WB is a fictional person made up by Schiff and staff, to take advantage of the whistleblower statute. I wouldn't call Ciarmella as a witness. I'm sure he was in on it, but that's as far as I would go.
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I've been thinking exactly the same thing. Prove the whistle blower exists, had legal access to the conversation, and is in a relative position to interpret the "bribe". Follow the preparation of the complaint ... who provided guidance or had access. Allow him or her to be cross examined, and see how the whole story holds up.
 
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There isn't a person on either side of the aisle that was there during the Clinton Impeachment trial that has any credibility..they all have done a complete 180 when it's about the other party
 
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luthervol said:
You missed the whole point.
You asked how I would feel if people on the right felt my candidate was "horrendously despicable."
My answer was basically that some always have and some always will.
Just as some people on the left always have and some always will find the rep. candidate despicable.
The difference is in the numbers. 5% feeling that way will not lead to the same consequences as 60% feeling that way.
From day one I talked about critical mass.
And just when did Clinton commit that crime? How far into the investigation (time wise) were they?
His crime didn't trigger any investigation. The investigation lead to him committing a crime. The investigation was started specifically because enough on the right pushed for it due to the fact that they didn't like him.
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A government investigation isn't what caused him to lie. It was a civil suit filed by Paula Jones for sexual harassment. He perjured himself and asked Monica to perjure herself. Monica ran her mouth to her friend, Linda Tripp, who decided to record the conversation. You can argue Whitewater was about politics, but Republicans didn't force Bill to have an affair with an intern and lie about it under oath. They didn't file the sexual harassment lawsuit that led to his perjury either. All these years later, and the left still blames Republicans for something they didn't actually do. They weren't that smart. Bill did it to himself, and ultimately, he got away with it. LMAO at the assertion the right pushed the investigation. It fell into their lap because Tripp recorded conversations with Monica.
 
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VolnJC said:
There isn't a person on either side of the aisle that was there during the Clinton Impeachment trial that has any credibility..they all have done a complete 180 when it's about the other party
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Lying Schitt & Fat-boy Nadler should have gotten all those documents & witnesses when they could before now. Senate won't do their failed attempt of a job you'd call the lazy-boy Dem way......just blame everybody else.....on the other side it's their fault.
 
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If Bill Clinton admits to fooling around with the chubby intern, he never gets impeached. Which considering all of the scandals that happened while he was in office(most with Hillary as a key figure), is surprising.
 
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