The Impeachment Thread

[vols40]

We all agree that impeachment should never be political. Nor, should the defense against impeachment be purely political, yet that's exactly what we have.

Except for the fact the Dems have nothing. Zero. Zip. Zilch. NADA.

 

[luthervol]

Did you vote for Barack Hussein Obama?

Enthusiastically

 

[0nelilreb]

Enthusiastically

So did I . I thought change would be good . He taught me a couple lessons . Change just for the sake of change isn’t always a good thing , and you still can’t trust a politician .

 

[luthervol]

There is bipartisan support against impeachment and removal. At least there are a hand full of sane democrats left

So you finally realized your mistake, after questioning my ability to read.
But yes, this process has become very partisan.

 

[volfanjustin]

Enthusiastically

Then don’t preach to anyone about a President being divisive, we have never seen a president so hell bent of diving us and that he did

 

[luthervol]

I only pointed out what the Dem leaders were saying because they ( like you are now about hate ) we’re saying it was just political and hatred that led to Clinton’s impeachment, and then did the same thing . So there’s no high ground here , there’s no saying now it’s not and it’s just “ about saving democracy “. Be fair and call it what it is . A pure political stunt fueled by hatred of Trump .

It's obviously fueled by the rightful and justifiable hatred of Trumpism. Again, that was predictable from day one.
Trump continually fueling that hatred and committing impeachable offenses is on him.
But yes, getting rid of Trump is 100% "about saving democracy".

 

[volinbham]

Emperor Luther hath spoken

 

[luthervol]

Then don’t preach to anyone about a President being divisive, we have never seen a president so hell bent of diving us and that he did

Some saw integration as divisive.
Some saw segregation as divisive.
Some were justified in their views; some not so much.

 

[Orange defense]

Then don’t preach to anyone about a President being divisive, we have never seen a president so hell bent of diving us and that he did

The nation was already divided under Obama in the last 4 years under him. The patriots were just quiet and mostly scared to speak out. They were scared that they might die or something. The way people were getting censored on the right wing side, the threats of death, and called racists. Now, with Trump in the White House, it has became the great awakening with q. The division really came known to us when Trump was elected, and we’ve found out who everyone is. For ex: I never thought Madonna would be like she was. Snoop dog, Bon Jovi, and a lot of actors that I grew up with. How did all of these people from their young years turn into this way?

 

[volinbham]

Some saw integration as divisive.
Some saw segregation as divisive.
Some were justified in their views; some not so much.

CS Lewis saw you coming

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

 

[Weezer]

Some saw integration as divisive.
Some saw segregation as divisive.
Some were justified in their views; some not so much.

Some think whatever doesn't match their personal belief is divisive.

Dems have found themselves unwilling to accept Trump as the lawfully elected President. No logic is involved, just pure hatred.

 

[lawgator1]

For ex: I never thought Madonna would be like she was. Snoop dog, Bon Jovi, and a lot of actors that I grew up with. How did all of these people from their young years turn into this way?

Huh?

 

[0nelilreb]

It's obviously fueled by the rightful and justifiable hatred of Trumpism. Again, that was predictable from day one.
Trump continually fueling that hatred and committing impeachable offenses is on him.
But yes, getting rid of Trump is 100% "about saving democracy".

Ok let me get this straight in my head ...

Political and partisan impeachment because of Clinton hate = Bad .

Political and partisan impeachment because of Trump hate = Justified, Right and Good .

Did I get capture the essence of what you said ?

 

[evillawyer]

But we all know Republicans are totally down with giving the electorate what they want and not selling their souls to the orangutan-in-chief. So I'm sure we'll see witnesses.

 

[Orange defense]

Huh?

Lawgator, when I was a teenager, her songs from the 80’s made that decade the best that ever was. I still listen to her music from the 80’s, but after what she said, I don’t like her as a person anymore.

 

[volfanjustin]

Some saw integration as divisive.
Some saw segregation as divisive.
Some were justified in their views; some not so much.

Weak attempt even for you

 

[Orange defense]

And Lawgator, how did she go from this to blowing up the White House? I never thought I’d see this from her. That’s what I’m talking about.

 

[volfanjustin]

The nation was already divided under Obama in the last 4 years under him. The patriots were just quiet and mostly scared to speak out. They were scared that they might die or something. The way people were getting censored on the right wing side, the threats of death, and called racists. Now, with Trump in the White House, it has became the great awakening with q. The division really came known to us when Trump was elected, and we’ve found out who everyone is. For ex: I never thought Madonna would be like she was. Snoop dog, Bon Jovi, and a lot of actors that I grew up with. How did all of these people from their young years turn into this way?

One is they know they won’t get work if they don’t come out and bash any R President. Those hacks know nothing about real America

 

[volfanjustin]

But we all know Republicans are totally down with giving the electorate what they want and not selling their souls to the orangutan-in-chief. So I'm sure we'll see witnesses.

I’m not sure why the Senate should do the House of Reps job for them

 

[JCP201]

But we all know Republicans are totally down with giving the electorate what they want and not selling their souls to the orangutan-in-chief. So I'm sure we'll see witnesses.

If what I understand is correct, the new defense for Trump (That he did it, but not impeachable for various reasons) is much better than the temper tantrums about Hunter/Joe, whistleblower, shifty schiff, etc. Of course, we have to overlook Rudy going rogue with Lev, the Nunes shenanigans, and the stalking of the ambassador, but it's better.

 

[Orange defense]

Yep, “Born in the USA” a nice real kicker right in the nuts.

 

[Orange defense]

One this is they know they won’t get work if they don’t come out and bash any R President. Those hacks know nothing about real America

Well, that’s true, but now they’re going to work. Getting off of that couch, out of mommy’s basement, and even some are growing up and learning how to work. That’s is the American way.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

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[luthervol]

Some think whatever doesn't match their personal belief is divisive.

Dems have found themselves unwilling to accept Trump as the lawfully elected President. No logic is involved, just pure hatred.

Dems acknowledge the inexplicable reality that Trump won the repub nomination and then enough electoral votes to become POTUS.
I find the hatred of Trump to be much more rooted in logic than the love of Trump.

 

[vols40]

So you finally realized your mistake, after questioning my ability to read.
But yes, this process has become very partisan.

Right after the president was inaugurated