2020 Presidential Race

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LouderVol said:
He lost me 5 seconds in. Drop the effing Trump narrative.

You arent picking up votes. You arent unifying. If anything you are further dividing. The Democrats already hate Trump, no candidate on that stage is Trump, there is no reason to bring him up at that moment. You are all obsessed high school girls and it is killing your chances with middle America.

They are tired of Trump but they hear more about Trump from the Dems than they do from Trump. And that's hard to do as Trump loves him some Trump. But the Dems are more obsessed than he is. IT DOES NOT SELL.

Move the eff on. Yall need to be consistent with a message and a plan. And the plan can not be Trump is bad. Trump has done the most important thing one can do if you want to be elected President, be elected as president. We see it on here all the time, people want to back a winner. Trump is the only winner up there, so stop making Trump THE ONLY thing you talk about. He has proven the doubters wrong before, he is picking up all those votes who held off because they were afraid of betting on a loser. He is picking up all the status quo votes, especially if things stay good. He is picking up all the votes from people who want a real plan with results, who are tired of the Dems preaching Impeach and no plan afterwards.

For all of whatever is middle America stop bringing up Trump. It doesnt differietiate you from anybody else. It doesnt pick up any votes. You are already not Trump, you are already getting the not Trump vote. Work to actually expand your base. Work to actually unify with real plans you can actually talk thru, and no Pete doesnt have any which is why he still has to drop Trump lines.

From someone who will never vote for Trump, stop bringing him up. You are just hurting yourself. This is the image you are building. You dont care about America, or winning, or what you are going to do. You only care about Trump and you dont care about what you ruin along the way to that Trump path. STOP.
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They will lose against his policies because they have nothing for it. Remember barry saying "what's he got a magic wand for jobs?" And now look at the unemployment rate. They don't want America thriving. They want to hold everyone back or even down to offer free 💩.
 
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volfanjustin said:
0.1% chance of getting the nomination
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Maybe so, but he's their best candidate that's left still in the running. He's Obama's brother from another mother. The others out crazy him by a long shot except for maybe Biden. That's with the caveat that Biden stops telling his "stories" and can keep far, far, away from Hunter's issues.
 
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37L1 said:
Maybe so, but he's their best candidate that's left still in the running. He's Obama's brother from another mother. The others out crazy him by a long shot except for maybe Biden. That's with the caveat that Biden stops telling his "stories" and can keep far, far, away from Hunter's issues.
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I disagree here, I see all of them as radical socialists except Biden. Biden is creepy and senile but he knows how the game is played, play to the loony base then if you get the nomination move slightly to the middle and if elected he knows damn well all those free programs will never pass.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I disagree here, I see all of them as radical socialists except Biden. Biden is creepy and senile but he knows how the game is played, play to the loony base then if you get the nomination move slightly to the middle and if elected he knows damn well all those free programs will never pass.
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Problem is, Biden keeps stepping on his "Dyngus."
 
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zeppelin128 said:
You didn't listen to Pete's closing statement at the debate.
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No. I listened to a bit of what you posted. If you want me to hear the final statement post that. Dont give me more anti Trump stumping and get upset that I didnt hear the parts you didnt post.
 
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37L1 said:
Maybe so, but he's their best candidate that's left still in the running. He's Obama's brother from another mother. The others out crazy him by a long shot except for maybe Biden. That's with the caveat that Biden stops telling his "stories" and can keep far, far, away from Hunter's issues.
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The only candidate who right now picks up votes for them is Bernie. The rest is status quo. If its Biden I see them losing more than a million votes. If Bernie isnt the selection and doesnt back the winner I see them down another 5 million.

On the flip side Trump is getting anywhere from 3 to 6 million more votes just by being president. A lot of people will vote for what is familiar if things stay the same.
 
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LouderVol said:
The only candidate who right now picks up votes for them is Bernie. The rest is status quo. If its Biden I see them losing more than a million votes. If Bernie isnt the selection and doesnt back the winner I see them down another 5 million.

On the flip side Trump is getting anywhere from 3 to 6 million more votes just by being president. A lot of people will vote for what is familiar if things stay the same.
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When you have .. Van Jones , Al Sharpton and Morning Joe , saying how bad it was and none of them could beat Trump , you should probably step up your game .
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Good Lord zep............will you come up for air & take your blinders off for a day & listen to what we're saying.
You haven't proved anything of what you just said......you can say it all you like but it's not been that way yet.
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I've came up for air. Pete is still the best chance we have against Trump.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I've came up for air. Pete is still the best chance we have against Trump.
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That’s an interesting take considering I’ve seen a few state they would vote for anyone but Trump because they are all better than him and now the best option to beat him is Pete . So all of them are by far better but only one can beat him in the election ?
 
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volfanjustin said:
War veteran? I heard this and correct me if I heard wrong, he didn't have to go through boot camp, he used some sort of program to get in and was just a driver?
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Your support for our troops is something to behold. He worked in intelligence and at times was the lead driver on intelligence gathering trips outside the base in Afghanistan. Which I am sure is just as dangerous as being an Uber driver.
 
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