2020 Presidential Race

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hog88 said:
Every one of the Dem candidates have been treated with kid gloves by the MSM.
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Not that you'd know, but Pete has been under constant scrutiny for months now by the MSM. And we are cool with it, because it will give us the edge in the primaries.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Not that you'd know, but Pete has been under constant scrutiny for months now by the MSM. And we are cool with it, because it will give us the edge in the primaries.
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No he hasn't. MSM isn't digging into his record as Mayor, they aren't digging into his past at all. They also aren't asking for and pestering for details of how he plans on paying for his agenda. (of course they aren't asking the other candidates either) They are also not doing any fact checking on any of them.
 
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hog88 said:
No he hasn't. MSM isn't digging into his record as Mayor, they aren't digging into his past at all. They also aren't asking for and pestering for details of how he plans on paying for his agenda. (of course they aren't asking the other candidates either) They are also not doing any fact checking on any of them.
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Yeah, you aren't following that closely if you think they aren't vetting Pete.
 
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hog88 said:
They're not. They're not vetting any of them.
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They vet them after they become POTUS. Far better ratings that way. The Sanders impeachment trial will sell so many intermittent catheters CNN will have Chris Cuomo broadcasting live from a floating patch of medical waste in the Pacific. At least until China discovers it, claims it as part of their empire, and starts building new air bases and catheter factories on it.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I'm just going to leave this here. Pete has built a coalition of liberal and progressive voters. Pete will unite the Democratic party. And Pete has the best chance of beating Trump in November.
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He lost me 5 seconds in. Drop the effing Trump narrative.

You arent picking up votes. You arent unifying. If anything you are further dividing. The Democrats already hate Trump, no candidate on that stage is Trump, there is no reason to bring him up at that moment. You are all obsessed high school girls and it is killing your chances with middle America.

They are tired of Trump but they hear more about Trump from the Dems than they do from Trump. And that's hard to do as Trump loves him some Trump. But the Dems are more obsessed than he is. IT DOES NOT SELL.

Move the eff on. Yall need to be consistent with a message and a plan. And the plan can not be Trump is bad. Trump has done the most important thing one can do if you want to be elected President, be elected as president. We see it on here all the time, people want to back a winner. Trump is the only winner up there, so stop making Trump THE ONLY thing you talk about. He has proven the doubters wrong before, he is picking up all those votes who held off because they were afraid of betting on a loser. He is picking up all the status quo votes, especially if things stay good. He is picking up all the votes from people who want a real plan with results, who are tired of the Dems preaching Impeach and no plan afterwards.

For all of whatever is middle America stop bringing up Trump. It doesnt differietiate you from anybody else. It doesnt pick up any votes. You are already not Trump, you are already getting the not Trump vote. Work to actually expand your base. Work to actually unify with real plans you can actually talk thru, and no Pete doesnt have any which is why he still has to drop Trump lines.

From someone who will never vote for Trump, stop bringing him up. You are just hurting yourself. This is the image you are building. You dont care about America, or winning, or what you are going to do. You only care about Trump and you dont care about what you ruin along the way to that Trump path. STOP.
 
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LouderVol said:
He lost me 5 seconds in. Drop the effing Trump narrative.

You arent picking up votes. You arent unifying. If anything you are further dividing. The Democrats already hate Trump, no candidate on that stage is Trump, there is no reason to bring him up at that moment. You are all obsessed high school girls and it is killing your chances with middle America.

They are tired of Trump but they hear more about Trump from the Dems than they do from Trump. And that's hard to do as Trump loves him some Trump. But the Dems are more obsessed than he is. IT DOES NOT SELL.

Move the eff on. Yall need to be consistent with a message and a plan. And the plan can not be Trump is bad. Trump has done the most important thing one can do if you want to be elected President, be elected as president. We see it on here all the time, people want to back a winner. Trump is the only winner up there, so stop making Trump THE ONLY thing you talk about. He has proven the doubters wrong before, he is picking up all those votes who held off because they were afraid of betting on a loser. He is picking up all the status quo votes, especially if things stay good. He is picking up all the votes from people who want a real plan with results, who are tired of the Dems preaching Impeach and no plan afterwards.

For all of whatever is middle America stop bringing up Trump. It doesnt differietiate you from anybody else. It doesnt pick up any votes. You are already not Trump, you are already getting the not Trump vote. Work to actually expand your base. Work to actually unify with real plans you can actually talk thru, and no Pete doesnt have any which is why he still has to drop Trump lines.

From someone who will never vote for Trump, stop bringing him up. You are just hurting yourself. This is the image you are building. You dont care about America, or winning, or what you are going to do. You only care about Trump and you dont care about what you ruin along the way to that Trump path. STOP.
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They have nothing else to sell.
 
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LouderVol said:
He lost me 5 seconds in. Drop the effing Trump narrative.

You arent picking up votes. You arent unifying. If anything you are further dividing. The Democrats already hate Trump, no candidate on that stage is Trump, there is no reason to bring him up at that moment. You are all obsessed high school girls and it is killing your chances with middle America.

They are tired of Trump but they hear more about Trump from the Dems than they do from Trump. And that's hard to do as Trump loves him some Trump. But the Dems are more obsessed than he is. IT DOES NOT SELL.

Move the eff on. Yall need to be consistent with a message and a plan. And the plan can not be Trump is bad. Trump has done the most important thing one can do if you want to be elected President, be elected as president. We see it on here all the time, people want to back a winner. Trump is the only winner up there, so stop making Trump THE ONLY thing you talk about. He has proven the doubters wrong before, he is picking up all those votes who held off because they were afraid of betting on a loser. He is picking up all the status quo votes, especially if things stay good. He is picking up all the votes from people who want a real plan with results, who are tired of the Dems preaching Impeach and no plan afterwards.

For all of whatever is middle America stop bringing up Trump. It doesnt differietiate you from anybody else. It doesnt pick up any votes. You are already not Trump, you are already getting the not Trump vote. Work to actually expand your base. Work to actually unify with real plans you can actually talk thru, and no Pete doesnt have any which is why he still has to drop Trump lines.

From someone who will never vote for Trump, stop bringing him up. You are just hurting yourself. This is the image you are building. You dont care about America, or winning, or what you are going to do. You only care about Trump and you dont care about what you ruin along the way to that Trump path. STOP.
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It's hard to expand the base when all they do is preach to the most extreme among us
 
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LouderVol said:
He lost me 5 seconds in. Drop the effing Trump narrative.

You arent picking up votes. You arent unifying. If anything you are further dividing. The Democrats already hate Trump, no candidate on that stage is Trump, there is no reason to bring him up at that moment. You are all obsessed high school girls and it is killing your chances with middle America.

They are tired of Trump but they hear more about Trump from the Dems than they do from Trump. And that's hard to do as Trump loves him some Trump. But the Dems are more obsessed than he is. IT DOES NOT SELL.

Move the eff on. Yall need to be consistent with a message and a plan. And the plan can not be Trump is bad. Trump has done the most important thing one can do if you want to be elected President, be elected as president. We see it on here all the time, people want to back a winner. Trump is the only winner up there, so stop making Trump THE ONLY thing you talk about. He has proven the doubters wrong before, he is picking up all those votes who held off because they were afraid of betting on a loser. He is picking up all the status quo votes, especially if things stay good. He is picking up all the votes from people who want a real plan with results, who are tired of the Dems preaching Impeach and no plan afterwards.

For all of whatever is middle America stop bringing up Trump. It doesnt differietiate you from anybody else. It doesnt pick up any votes. You are already not Trump, you are already getting the not Trump vote. Work to actually expand your base. Work to actually unify with real plans you can actually talk thru, and no Pete doesnt have any which is why he still has to drop Trump lines.

From someone who will never vote for Trump, stop bringing him up. You are just hurting yourself. This is the image you are building. You dont care about America, or winning, or what you are going to do. You only care about Trump and you dont care about what you ruin along the way to that Trump path. STOP.
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zeppelin128 said:
Not that you'd know, but Pete has been under constant scrutiny for months now by the MSM. And we are cool with it, because it will give us the edge in the primaries.
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Good Lord zep............will you come up for air & take your blinders off for a day & listen to what we're saying.
You haven't proved anything of what you just said......you can say it all you like but it's not been that way yet.
 
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LouderVol said:
They've had 3+ years. They should. If they actually want to be better than Trump they should. If they actually want to show leadership of this country they should.
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They can't. The well is completely dry and void of any substance. Were I a Leftist I would be seriously depressed.
 
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LouderVol said:
They've had 3+ years. They should. If they actually want to be better than Trump they should. If they actually want to show leadership of this country they should.
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Key word in your post, "if".

They are following the same failed game-plan as the House Rs did. Demonize the opposition but fail to have/sell alternative plans. It will bite them in the ass just as it did the Rs in 2018.
 
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For some reason I saw this and cracked up.

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LouderVol said:
He lost me 5 seconds in. Drop the effing Trump narrative.

You arent picking up votes. You arent unifying. If anything you are further dividing. The Democrats already hate Trump, no candidate on that stage is Trump, there is no reason to bring him up at that moment. You are all obsessed high school girls and it is killing your chances with middle America.

They are tired of Trump but they hear more about Trump from the Dems than they do from Trump. And that's hard to do as Trump loves him some Trump. But the Dems are more obsessed than he is. IT DOES NOT SELL.

Move the eff on. Yall need to be consistent with a message and a plan. And the plan can not be Trump is bad. Trump has done the most important thing one can do if you want to be elected President, be elected as president. We see it on here all the time, people want to back a winner. Trump is the only winner up there, so stop making Trump THE ONLY thing you talk about. He has proven the doubters wrong before, he is picking up all those votes who held off because they were afraid of betting on a loser. He is picking up all the status quo votes, especially if things stay good. He is picking up all the votes from people who want a real plan with results, who are tired of the Dems preaching Impeach and no plan afterwards.

For all of whatever is middle America stop bringing up Trump. It doesnt differietiate you from anybody else. It doesnt pick up any votes. You are already not Trump, you are already getting the not Trump vote. Work to actually expand your base. Work to actually unify with real plans you can actually talk thru, and no Pete doesnt have any which is why he still has to drop Trump lines.

From someone who will never vote for Trump, stop bringing him up. You are just hurting yourself. This is the image you are building. You dont care about America, or winning, or what you are going to do. You only care about Trump and you dont care about what you ruin along the way to that Trump path. STOP.
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You didn't listen to Pete's closing statement at the debate.
 
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