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WriterVol said:
It was clear Johnson was trying to subvert expectations. I just think he did it too often and at the expense of too much.

Changing a character for the sake of conflict is understandable, but I question doing it the way he did. Taking an iconic, generational hero and deciding to make him a family-foresaking coward was not the direction I would have chosen. I think it's pretty understandable many fans question this decision.

I also think that hard left put Episode IX in a tough spot.

Still not sure what to make of the contradictory theme choices the movie created.

But I do sincerely appreciate your thoughtful response. I usually don't question the preferences of others. This one just makes me scratch my head more than most.
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Not to mention...

The utterly tone deaf comedy (Prank calling the bad guys? Please). I couldn’t tell if it was a Star Wars sequel or a Spaceballs sequal.

Luke is reduced to a sniveling coward with little effort to offer a compelling reason why.

The entire Cano Bight plot line was pointless.

The bad guys saving bullets (maybe? I guess) by sitting back and just waiting for the good guys to run out of gas while letting a couple of them just fly away on a pointless Cano Bight excursion. Something similar to the Kessel Run scene in Solo would have accomplished the same thing in a more exciting and sensible way.

Subverting audience expectations is a good thing if its challenging or interesting, but not if it just involves every single plot thread ending in massive letdown.

The Holdo storyline might have been decent if she had ordered Poe jettisoned into space for mutiny.

A lot of the social justice stuff was definitely force fit into the story, but even overlooking all that, it was a horrible movie within the context of the series.
 
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WriterVol said:
There's a lot to unpack in your post. It's going to take me a while. :p
Seriously though. I was hoping for a little more meat. All I ever get is "I liked it." I mean, if that's the depth of the analysis, I can see where someone might like it. I've just never seen someone look at it in depth and break down where it's great.
That said, I guess we can agree you like it, I don't, and move on. Obviously, this isn't the place for such topics anyway.
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Glitch said:
The guest gifts that @frank hands out at his BBQ's more than make up for it. My best one so far was a trained leprechaun that will do tricks, fetch me bowls of Lucky Charms, and gives me gold from his pot at the end of the rainbow if I ever need it.

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Probably a homeless dwarf that slips LSD into your Lucky Charms and humps your leg while you're tripping.
 
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