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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I think Rodgers and Brees are a better QB than Brady, even if Rodgers is a bad locker room guy.
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Based on what for both of them? because Rodgers can throw a little better on the run? Or because brees can check down 15 times a game and let some one like kamara do 98% of the work.

Neither one of those guys have had half the success that Brady has had with far better offensive setups recently especially Brees. There isn’t a QB in the league that has a better set up than Brees right now.

I really don’t understand the fascination people have with Rodgers. If he’s this superhuman like talent that everyone claims he is then they would’ve won more games especially big ones.
 
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HankHill said:
Based on what for both of them? because Rodgers can throw a little better on the run? Or because brees can check down 15 times a game and let some one like kamara do 98% of the work.

Neither one of those guys have had half the success that Brady has had with far better offensive setups recently especially Brees. There isn’t a QB in the league that has a better set up than Brees right now.

I really don’t understand the fascination people have with Rodgers. If he’s this superhuman like talent that everyone claims he is then they would’ve won more games especially big ones.
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Brady has a better team than both those guys. But also, Brady has been the king of “checking down” his entire career.
 
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HankHill said:
It will be important for titans not to fall behind early. It will be a hornets nest in arrowhead. Avoid big plays and a slow start and see what happens.
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Even if they get ahead and try the ground and pound approach. Mahomes can bring the team back and quick. Dude is a stud
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Brady has a better team than both those guys. But also, Brady has been the king of “checking down” his entire career.
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People NEVER mention belichicks defense during the brady era. I believe brady has had a top 10 defense every year besides 1 or 2 seasons. Peyton only had 1 in Indy (they won the sb that year).
 
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Ron Swanson said:
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“We Could’ve been legends there” Boys we getting 4 grad transfers from Clemson
 
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#Vol4Life1991 said:
People NEVER mention belichicks defense during the brady era. I believe brady has had a top 10 defense every year besides 1 or 2 seasons. Peyton only had 1 in Indy (they won the sb that year).
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Yep. If Brady doesn’t have that defense he doesn’t have championships. Ive said it many times before but here it is once more: if his defense doesn’t intercept the ball on the 1 against Seattle, Brady loses that SB. If his defense gives up 6 second half points to the falcons instead of 3, he loses that SB too. If his defense doesn’t shut down the rams last year, he loses that one. He didn’t even throw a single TD pass. But yes, he’s the goat because he won those SB’s 🙄. I guess if the reverse of those things happen, the Rams offense actually scores some points and wins, the Falcons kick 2 FG’s instead of 1, and Seattle simply hands the ball off to Lynch, Brady is no longer the goat.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yep. If Brady doesn’t have that defense he doesn’t have championships. Ive said it many times before but here it is once more: if his defense doesn’t intercept the ball on the 1 against Seattle, Brady loses that SB. If his defense gives up 6 second half points to the falcons instead of 3, he loses that SB too. If his defense doesn’t shut down the rams last year, he loses that one. He didn’t even throw a single TD pass. But yes, he’s the goat because he won those SB’s 🙄. I guess if the reverse of those things happen, the Rams offense actually scores some points and wins, the Falcons kick 2 FG’s instead of 1, and Seattle simply hands the ball off to Lynch, Brady is no longer the goat.
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Four time Super Bowl MVP. Give credit where credit is due.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yep. If Brady doesn’t have that defense he doesn’t have championships. Ive said it many times before but here it is once more: if his defense doesn’t intercept the ball on the 1 against Seattle, Brady loses that SB. If his defense gives up 6 second half points to the falcons instead of 3, he loses that SB too. If his defense doesn’t shut down the rams last year, he loses that one. He didn’t even throw a single TD pass. But yes, he’s the goat because he won those SB’s 🙄. I guess if the reverse of those things happen, the Rams offense actually scores some points and wins, the Falcons kick 2 FG’s instead of 1, and Seattle simply hands the ball off to Lynch, Brady is no longer the goat.
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That's why it's soooooooooo stupid for people to try and dumb down goat or not goat on sb wins. Sooo many damn variables that the qb has 0 impact on, but somehow he gets all the credit or blame. It really urks me! And all of your examples have NOTHING to do with brady but he gets the goat status 🤣🤣🤣

P.S. he still was a hella qb tho. All timer, but unanimous #1? Nope
 
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#Vol4Life1991 said:
That's why it's soooooooooo stupid for people to try and dumb down goat or not goat on sb wins. Sooo many damn variables that the qb has 0 impact on, but somehow he gets all the credit or blame. It really urks me! And all of your examples have NOTHING to do with brady but he gets the goat status 🤣🤣🤣

P.S. he still was a hella qb tho. All timer, but unanimous #1? Nope
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He’s still great. But he’s not the goat. And the only argument people have for him being the goat is the number of rings he has. Which, as I’ve just stated, makes 0 sense
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Brady has a better team than both those guys. But also, Brady has been the king of “checking down” his entire career.
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FB is arguably the most TEAM dependent sport in existence. I was a little surprised to see anyone list "success" as a main factor.

I mean, I'm not putting Jalen Hurts over Manning because he was the one with the championship /success, would you? Tee better than Burrow if LSU loses?
 
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Remember everyone, brady has played like 19 or 20 something seasons!!! He's had an elite (top 10 of that season) defense 90% of his CAREER!!!! But nevermind that, people don't like to mention defense or highlighting the numerous times belichick has held the opposing offense to 10 pts or less (in the 2nd half) in Brady's playoff career. I'll save everyone the leg work: its been over 75% of the games hes coached in the playoffs
 
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chargervol said:
FB is arguably the most TEAM dependent sport in existence. I was a little surprised to see anyone list "success" as a main factor.

I mean, I'm not putting Jalen Hurts over Manning because he was the one with the championship /success, would you? Tee better than Burrow if LSU loses?
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Exactly. Imagine thinking Greg McElroy was a better QB than Peyton because he won a national title at bama
 
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