Trans men cant handle their monthly visitor

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Still waiting on the dissenters to post links to biology journals and reproducible research to prove their point.
 
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AshG said:
Because if we want to talk mental illness, we could post images of each side's dominant voices. Like this one. Stop telling me I have to accept this as normal.
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Trying to compare a political affiliation with someone pretending to be something they aren't is a weird flex, but you do you.
 
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AshG said:
Because there's a dichotomy where one side refuses to accept the other, then demands itself be given special status.

Trumphumpers, for instance.
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Or pedophiles . Social norms dictate what’s acceptable. That’s the whole point of people being interested in a topic like this .
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Nonsense. Maybe a few hundred people in America identify as a bird. That is a mental disorder. Over 1.5M Americans identify as transgender. That's an unalterable result of their genetic makeup.
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It can't be placed on genetic make up. Those studies are still incomplete and can draw no conclusion. The most common cause is lack of hormones attributable to that sex at birth up until adolescence. It makes the brain develop abnormally in specific areas. Men's and women's brains are different.
As far as genetic studies they have also found that drugs taken by parents can alter the hormone balance in the child at birth. Even birth order has been tied to gender dysphoria.
I don't think we have a complete picture yet.
 
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0nelilreb said:
That what there’s no Trans gene ?
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That's it's much more complicated than simple dualistic thinking allows. For instance, overexposure to certain prenatal hormones has been shown to be a mitigating, but not solely deterministic, factor.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19359705.2013.753393

Not everything is a simple This/That situation. That's what aggravates me in these discussions: the desire by many here to boil things down to A or B, One or Two, Win or Lose when there is significant amount of nuance to the discussion.

I pray none of you ever have a friend who attempts suicide because they believe they have to be someone else around you.
 
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AshG said:
Political correctness, by and large, is just the effort to encourage people to show respect to others.

You may disagree with what people do, but have the maturity to leave them alone to live their lives.
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The problem is at present gender dysphoria has been added to the dsm 5. Therefore a parent can have their 7 year old diagnosed and treated with hormones and therapy. I would highly doubt a 7 year old could intelligently speak about future goals of therapy much less wrap their minds around what the parent and psychiatrist have planned.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
For transgender men, pain of menstruation is more than just physical

So women become men, yet still have periods and they cant handle it. No matter how much they think they're men, they'll always be women.

Their body's dna will always tell them they're women. It is a tragedy that our society is supporting this mental illness and treating this as its natural.
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Good thing we have safe spaces like VN for pearl clutchers like you to go to and commiserate with the like-minded.
 
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AshG said:
That's it's much more complicated than simple dualistic thinking allows. For instance, overexposure to certain prenatal hormones has been shown to be a mitigating, but not solely deterministic, factor.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19359705.2013.753393

Not everything is a simple This/That situation. That's what aggravates me in these discussions: the desire by many here to boil things down to A or B, One or Two, Win or Lose when there is significant amount of nuance to the discussion.

I pray none of you ever have a friend who attempts suicide because they believe they have to be someone else around you.
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So in other words ... no there’s no trans gene . I didn’t address any social , economical or physical outcomes from identifying as a trans or a blue hippo with purple wings today . I said there is no such thing as a gene that causes you to be trans . People commit suicide every day and for 100s of different reasons not just thinking they have to be someone else in public .
 
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The same people defending this mental disorder are the same ones that b*#ch about our deficit. States having to change so much for the .4%. Illinois is currently in the process of changing birth certificates for “ transmasculin” and the taxpayers will be paying millions into it.
Same thing goes for changing bathrooms or bathroom signs or any kind of signs for that matter.


Just take out stacks of hundreds and toss them in a fire, you will get more use out of it.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Ever consider it’s brainwashing?

There’s an agenda to mainstream ”trans”.

Some of these 1.5M people you’re referring to are actually minor children being pushed into this by parents.

Assuming your number is correct we’re talking about 0.4% of the population.

Why would 99.6% of people allow 0.4% of the population dictate changes to the English language (pronoun nonsense) and public bathrooms.

It’s mental illness disguised as woke political correctness.
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It doesn't matter to him, or them. Anything the left goes with they jump on, and call everybody else uneducated for not agreeing. Pelosi could get on tv tonight and say water is bad for you, and these guys would be on here tomorrow saying we're dumb for not believing it. 😄
 
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Purple Tiger said:
These "women who become men" have not had sex change surgery. They still have their vaginas and have periods.
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Therefore, they are simply cross-dressers, and no different from men in drag who want to visit your daughter or wife's restroom with them. So nice knowing the left actually supports sexual assault in one instance and goes completely berserk in another.
 
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AshG said:
That's it's much more complicated than simple dualistic thinking allows. For instance, overexposure to certain prenatal hormones has been shown to be a mitigating, but not solely deterministic, factor.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19359705.2013.753393

Not everything is a simple This/That situation. That's what aggravates me in these discussions: the desire by many here to boil things down to A or B, One or Two, Win or Lose when there is significant amount of nuance to the discussion.

I pray none of you ever have a friend who attempts suicide because they believe they have to be someone else around you.
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People with mental illness usually commit suicide because of their disorders and because they are on medications.(legal or otherwise). Not because of societal norms. I knew a patient who believed he was Jesus. He killed himself but not because we didn’t believe he was Jesus
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Nonsense. Maybe a few hundred people in America identify as a bird. That is a mental disorder. Over 1.5M Americans identify as transgender. That's an unalterable result of their genetic makeup.
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-Bulimia Nervosa? 4.7 million females just in the US.
-Anorexia? One percent of America women.
1 in 5 anorexia deaths is suicide. Is it because we dont affirm their distorted reality?

Your position is a damn lie and a dangerous one. Who the hell would give a person with one of these disorders diet pills? But, that is exactly what you are doing when you give someone suffering gender dysphoria hormones.
 
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ajvol01 said:
So what are you saying? Are they still women?
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Yep, there are still just two sexes, and the difference isn't that hard to determine. And before one of our favorite libs comes along ... yes, there are some people with weird anatomies, but very few ... just like Siamese twins aren't the norm.
 
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I'm glad that the practice of medicine is left up to the trained, and not the masses.
 
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