JG just can’t play good

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RockyTop140 said:
JG spotted them 9 points. I love his fight but man he was just awful. Missed tons of throws in the 1st half, a couple of which would have been touchdowns. In the red zone he can not make the right read or find the open guy fast enough. We are lucky to have someone like JJ who fights for the end zone every play, because if we don’t score a TD on a big play we don’t have a good chance to score one in the red zone. And on his final 2 drives, he dumped it off to Eric gray twice which went for most of the yards. I don’t wanna bash him too much but geez he had a rough day yesterday
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Everybody has said he had a rough day, but like I said folks don't give him credit for game winning plays he also makes. You say he just dumped it off to Gray but I say he made the correct decision with the ball and executed, something our young Fr QBs have had a hard time doing. The pass after the onside kick was another good throw and play he executed well. As for all the other what ifs I just don't do what ifs as its impossible to debate and middle school stuff. Win by 1 or 30, in the end it doesn't matter one bit as a W is a W.
 
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I wonder if the people who think BM would have brought us more success will be upset if he is behind both JG and HB next year? What would that say about their narrative this season? For some odd reason BM just hasn't been able to seize his opportunity. Could it possibly be that he just isn't that good or was it the competition and coaches not being fair lol?
 
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#132
CR-vol said:
I wonder if the people who think BM would have brought us more success will be upset if he is behind both JG and HB next year? What would that say about their narrative this season? For some odd reason BM just hasn't been able to seize his opportunity. Could it possibly be that he just isn't that good or was it the competition and coaches not being fair lol?
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Nope. However, if you give Maurer all the #1 reps until this fall he is head and shoulders above JG come game #1.

JG is a good practice QB, thats it.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Lol. 16. The same as JG. So JG must be as good as Burrow right??? lolololol. JG even has an extra year starting that Burrow doesnt. I bet JG throws 65 TD's in 2020!!! hahaha
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Exactly. Cheery picking stats. If JG was to have half the season next year that Burrow had this year it would be a miracle. Not a normal miracle. Like God parting the sea type of miracle.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Lol. 16. The same as JG. So JG must be as good as Burrow right??? lolololol. JG even has an extra year starting that Burrow doesnt. I bet JG throws 65 TD's in 2020!!! hahaha
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You made that comparison, not me, I just asked because it seems historical data doesn't mean much to certain folks.
 
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beneVOLence said:
Exactly. Cheery picking stats. If JG was to have half the season next year that Burrow had this year it would be a miracle. Not a normal miracle. Like God parting the sea type of miracle.
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I could see 2500 yards with 20-25 TDS next season from JG, I don't think that would take a miracle to accomplish either.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
You made that comparison, not me, I just asked because it seems historical data doesn't mean much to certain folks.
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You made that comparison because you believe JG is going to have a break out year like Burrows when there are plenty of other QB's who threw 16 TD's in a single season. JG wont have a breakout season, ever. No amount of improvement in O-line play or tutelage under Chaney is going to fix his glaring deficiencies. He has never been a good QB. He wasn't good in high school and he isn't good in college. The UT field goal kicker scored more points than JG did this year...
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
How many TD throws did Burrow have his Jr year?
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What was Burrow’s record as a starter last year?

How many recievers/tight ends were returning with Burrow from year 1 to year 2 as starter?

How many ranked teams did LSU beat with Burrow as starter?

How many years did Burrow start prior to his 1st year starting at LSU?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
What was Burrow’s record as a starter last year?

How many recievers/tight ends were returning with Burrow from year 1 to year 2 as starter?

How many ranked teams did LSU beat with Burrow as starter?

How many years did Burrow start prior to his 1st year starting at LSU?
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I just asked how many TDs he threw is all, you guys get worked up too easily.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I could see 2500 yards with 20-25 TDS next season from JG, I don't think that would take a miracle to accomplish either.
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Not only would JG have to go above his career averages, he would have to do that while being surrounded by 1 returning starter in the WR/TE unit. But sure.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
You made that comparison because you believe JG is going to have a break out year like Burrows when there are plenty of other QB's who threw 16 TD's in a single season. JG wont have a breakout season, ever. No amount of improvement in O-line play or tutelage under Chaney is going to fix his glaring deficiencies. He has never been a good QB. He wasn't good in high school and he isn't good in college. The UT field goal kicker scored more points than JG did this year...
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I've never once said anything close to what you say I believe. I believe that you like to simply make false statements about folks though.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I just asked how many TDs he threw is all, you guys get worked up too easily.
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Not bad for a first year starter that led a team to 9-4 record with wins over 4 ranked teams.

Also not a bad jump to year 2 production with an almost identical starting 11 on offense from year 1 to year 2
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CR-vol said:
I wonder if the people who think BM would have brought us more success will be upset if he is behind both JG and HB next year? What would that say about their narrative this season? For some odd reason BM just hasn't been able to seize his opportunity. Could it possibly be that he just isn't that good or was it the competition and coaches not being fair lol?
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I would say part of it is Maurer can’t keep himself healthy and his play was that of a true freshman: high risk and high reward.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Not only would JG have to go above his career averages, he would have to do that while being surrounded by 1 returning starter in the WR/TE unit. But sure.
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So you think we have someone else on the roster that can produce those numbers without any returning WRs/TE. Sounds like you're saying we are going to struggle in the passing game regardless of who is playing QB because of lack of returning WRs.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Not bad for a first year starter that led a team to 9-4 record with wins over 4 ranked teams.

Also not a bad jump to year 2 production with an almost identical starting 11 on offense from year 1 to year 2
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Once again, I never said anything about what type season he had, I simply asked how many TDs he threw for.
 
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Remy said:
He was the only player they had I thought could play for UT.
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I was really impressed with just about every facet of his game. He made great decisions, he was a very accurate passer, extremely gutsy and mobile..... makes one wonder why a QB like him is so hard to find..
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
How many TD throws did Burrow have his Jr year?
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I could see 2500 yards with 20-25 TDS next season from JG, I don't think that would take a miracle to accomplish either.
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The same with a year less starting. It’s called progression. JG has shown us none. It’s convenient how you ignore the fact he is very below average. Bet you have a nude poster of him in your room. You act like he saved the day. Like he deserves praise for a few good throws at the end. The heroic throws shouldn’t have been needed at the end. He solely on his own dig us a hole. He missed multiple TD passes. Not hard passes. Wide open high % passes. He threw a horrid pic 6. I will not praise him for a few dink passes that gray made look good. JG put us in that terribke position all on his own.

Sorry to tell you your love affair with JG is over. You will not see him break out like burrow next year. 1. Because he’s incapable of being even serviceable, let alone a great, Heisman caliber QB. 2. IF he starts it won’t be for long. One of these other QBs will progress or at least show flashes. That’s better than what we have. Maurer didn’t look like a world beater but his stats where better when given an opportunity.

I appreciate JG and I gave him an opportunity for 3 years. He’s not the answer. It’s time to look towards the future. Give the love affair up. Write him a letter or something, I don’t know. But please quit gargling on JG everyday on VN. We all know what he is. JG is just JG. Good luck to him and move on.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
So you think we have someone else on the roster that can produce those numbers without any returning WRs/TE. Sounds like you're saying we are going to struggle in the passing game regardless of who is playing QB because of lack of returning WRs.
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I think when we are going into a season with a RS Senior with 2.5 seasons of starting and can’t make a jump forward at the position, it’s time to turn to players who are going to be here for the next 2-3 seasons and let them start building.

1-Brian Maurer will be a sophomore with playing experience, 2 off seasons in the S&C and Chaney’s offense. Con with him is his medical history. His play is what you’d expect from a true freshman- High Risk/High Reward

2-Harrison Bailey is a 4/5 star QB coming out of high school. Chaney has done well with highly ranked true freshmen QB’s. He’s also likely the heir apparent to the program like a “franchise QB” in the pro.

3-JT Shrout will be going thru his 3rd offseason in the S&C, second year with Chaney. Con- still a “developmental player” who at best is a 4 year player. He leaves college football due to graduation, not the NFL draft.

All three of those guys have multiple years left to play at Tennessee and haven’t had experience to establish a baseline.

JG now has 2.5 seasons of around 2000 yards and 15-20 touchdowns all while having a starting win % around 33%.

We know what he brings to the table with one year left in school. We don’t know what the others bring when they have 2-3 years left in school at minimum.
 
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