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TNTUBA said:
A couple things.

He's thrown half the INTs because he's thrown a 1/4 of the attempts JG has. Statistically he throws INTs twice as frequently as JG. So in that regard JG protects the ball better.

Secondly...is your contention that the defense's ability or inability to prevent the opposition offense from scoring is somehow a reflection on the QBs ability to protect the ball?

That's some GoGo Gadget type stretching right there.

Sometimes I wonder if a majority of the posters on this forum could identify a football in a line up of other athletic equipment.
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So there is no curve (3 of BMs int came against top 25 teams) straight stats...so level of team play doesnt matter???

As for being responsible yes...throwing a pick and giving a short field is different then a longer field...also more often then not scores happen after an offense has been unable to sustain drives giving the defense time to rest...

You have made good point. But your failure to be able to see the trees instead of the forest is your issue....im a stat and tendency guy. I love baseball for that reason.
 
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MADISONGAVOL said:
They will go through spring first see where they think they will stand . Dont look for pruitt to name a starter till season starts to keep people from transferring and keep competition up
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I think that will hurt the team...trying spread reps doesnt allow a team to gel...QBs and WR need reps to get timing down...QBs throw very different balls
 
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MADISONGAVOL said:
They will go through spring first see where they think they will stand . Dont look for pruitt to name a starter till season starts to keep people from transferring and keep competition up
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Can Maurer stay through the first 4 games of next season and transfer then and still be eligible in 2021?
 
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k-town_king said:
They never said BM was the best qb or gave us the best chance to win. They did say he gave the team a spark for that one moment he played well.
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Pruitt indicated he had become the starter before he was flipped on his head and injured. That means they considered him their best option. Don't be stupid any more. If they were certain that JG was a good option... they wouldn't have benched him multiple times or invested ANY time trying out a true or RS freshman.

You ALWAYS try this same deception. Most of us agree that neither Maurer or Shrout were ready to start. They have a lot of work to do before being solid and consistent SEC QB's. That is NOT THE ISSUE. The issue is that your idol played so poorly and inconsistently that the coaches in desperation tried guys they knew weren't ready.

Your arguments are destroyed without consideration of how BM or Shrout played. They are destroyed by the sheer FACT that the coaches knew JG was NOT doing a good job.

I didn't start any narrative. The reporters and announcers who reported the facts did. It has been well covered.
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So you're saying that a RS Jr that on experience alone has a better grasp of managing the O was a better option in spite of his own poor play than two Fr who had no experience and much less development?

That's like saying the slowest kid in the 2nd grade is a "better option" for a race than a toddler. Again, the FACT that the other two are talented kids needing development and experience DOES NOT make JG a "good" option. He's not. And you might as well prepare yourself for one of two options: 1) UT continues to play down to competition and lose games they shouldn't due to poor QB play or 2) one of the other 5 guys takes over as the starter.
 
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sjt18 said:
Someone else may correct me but I don't think he can do that.
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So he will be forced to make a decision at the end of spring practice which I think is very unfortunate. We could very well be in the same situation next season if he leaves.
 
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TNTUBA said:
A couple things.

He's thrown half the INTs because he's thrown a 1/4 of the attempts JG has. Statistically he throws INTs twice as frequently as JG. So in that regard JG protects the ball better.
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He is a much more risk averse QB. Maurer will likely always be high risk/high reward. Plus.... it really shouldn't be that close when comparing a 4th year QB to a true Fr.

Secondly...is your contention that the defense's ability or inability to prevent the opposition offense from scoring is somehow a reflection on the QBs ability to protect the ball?
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Funny you tried to mock someone else's football knowledge in light of this line. Yes. The place and timing of risks that turn into INT's is important to whether the D can prevent a score or not. I'm not suggesting Maurer is actually good enough to make that calculation. JG should be.
 
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volfan411 said:
So he will be forced to make a decision at the end of spring practice which I think is very unfortunate. We could very well be in the same situation next season if he leaves.
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Again, there are folks here who know the rule better than I do but I do not think he can be on the roster that starts fall practice.
 
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TNTUBA said:
And if BM were better than JG he would have won the job....but he couldn't. /thread
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Correction..... he did and injury reopened the door. Let’s not start acting BM lost the starting spot due to performance. Although it’s clear CJP was waiting for a reason it took him WEEKS to finally have one and that reason was a lingering injury.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I think that will hurt the team...trying spread reps doesnt allow a team to gel...QBs and WR need reps to get timing down...QBs throw very different balls
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Evaluating your players and getting reps to potential 2-Deep players is exactly what spring ball is for. Coaches want to come out of the spring game with a solid idea of who their players are. It’s all about competition and improvement. Fall camp is where you want those guys to gel.
 
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GoVols64 said:
Evaluating your players and getting reps to potential 2-Deep players is exactly what spring ball is for. Coaches want to come out of the spring game with a solid idea of who their players are. It’s all about competition and improvement. Fall camp is where you want those guys to gel.
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Correct....juggling players leading up ton the season opener would be the problem....as it was seen this season the WR were very used to passes late in breaks and behind them..there were throws that JT and BM made the surprised the WR by thier placment and they were dropped
 
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TNTUBA said:
Oh...he was injured in the first half of the KY game?

Or he got injured in the 2and half of the tax slayer bowl?

This narrative that a true freshman who throws the ball to the other team as frequently as he throws touchdowns will never make sense to me.
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No.... he knocking off rust while passing for 100 yards and rushing for 10 yards a carry in less than a quarter of play.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
So let me ask you a question. If you have a quarterback that turn the ball over 10 times leading to the opposition scoring 30 plus points. While the other one turned it over half as much and lead to 3 points. Which would you say protected the ball better??
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Turnovers lose ball games more than anything else. Ball security is the most vital element of football. Many, many championships have been won by teams with mediocre qbs who don’t turn the ball over.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Turnovers lose ball games more than anything else. Ball security is the most vital element of football. Many, many championships have been won by teams with mediocre qbs who don’t turn the ball over.
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No turnover is good period...but id rather it happen after a drive or in a spot where the opponent has to drive a longer field...
 
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TNTUBA said:
The only thing BM has shown is he is more inconsistent than JG, he does a worse job of protecting the football than JG and that he is injury prone.
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Outside of the concussion can you point out a time he was injured? Because no one else can. So “injury prone” is nothing more than dishonest phrase used to minimize him. In fact that shot he took vs UGA would’ve sidelined most qbs for at least the following week. After landing on his head the way he did vs MSU, how many qbs get up talking chit to the defense? Suddenly he doesn’t seem so “injury prone” once you discard your opinion and face the facts does he?
 
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I am not privy to any inside information, but just think what I would/have told my boys about these type things...and looking at Maurer, I feel this would be the advice (unbiased/biased?) I would give him.

"You showed enough promise in your true freshman year to take the QB1 spot. Coming into a P5 school and facing the teams you face that year is irreplaceable experience. Did the coach end up finishing the season with the more experienced guy? Yes. What does that mean for 2020? Really, not much. The coaches could open up more of the playbook with JG, and JG could read coverages/protections better.

But now, you are not that wide-eyed freshman. You have a year ahead of you to continue in the S&C program, watch more film, learn the entire playbook, and learn how to read protection/coverages. You are far below your ceiling right now vs. a potential SR who has reached his ceiling. There is another true freshman coming in as well. Highly regarded? Yes. But you know what that learning curve is...

You know what you are capable of....are you willing to put in the study, film, S&C work required to be a top P5 QB? This is your opportunity. You give it all you have as a Sophomore and do all you can. If you lose out to JG, then look at how you are standing vs. HB. Is HB #2 QB or are you? If HB wins the starting job, then look seriously at your opportunity...transfer may be the best choice at that point"

TL/DR thought about what I would say...but that requires at least going through to spring practice before you really know anything. Leaving right now would be way premature.
 
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sjt18 said:
He is a much more risk averse QB. Maurer will likely always be high risk/high reward. Plus.... it really shouldn't be that close when comparing a 4th year QB to a true Fr.

Funny you tried to mock someone else's football knowledge in light of this line. Yes. The place and timing of risks that turn into INT's is important to whether the D can prevent a score or not. I'm not suggesting Maurer is actually good enough to make that calculation. JG should be.
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In 3 of BMs 5 picks....TNs defense re intercepted the ball on the ensuing drive. One resulted in a FG and the other a turn over on downs

Anything else you care to be wrong about?
 
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1vol8 said:
Outside of the concussion can you point out a time he was injured? Because no one else can. So “injury prone” is nothing more than dishonest phrase used to minimize him. In fact that shot he took vs UGA would’ve sidelined most qbs for at least the following week. After landing on his head the way he did vs MSU, how many qbs get up talking chit to the defense? Suddenly he doesn’t seem so “injury prone” once you discard your opinion and face the facts does he?
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Dude. With the beating JG took his freshman and sophomore years are you REALLY going there?

J.H.C.
 
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TNTUBA said:
Dude. With the beating JG took his freshman and sophomore years are you REALLY going there?

J.H.C.
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What other injuries did he have..to make him prone??

And how do suggeat he train his body against concussions??? In your experience
 
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willinhf said:
I am not privy to any inside information, but just think what I would/have told my boys about these type things...and looking at Maurer, I feel this would be the advice (unbiased/biased?) I would give him.

"You showed enough promise in your true freshman year to take the QB1 spot. Coming into a P5 school and facing the teams you face that year is irreplaceable experience. Did the coach end up finishing the season with the more experienced guy? Yes. What does that mean for 2020? Really, not much. The coaches could open up more of the playbook with JG, and JG could read coverages/protections better.

But now, you are not that wide-eyed freshman. You have a year ahead of you to continue in the S&C program, watch more film, learn the entire playbook, and learn how to read protection/coverages. You are far below your ceiling right now vs. a potential SR who has reached his ceiling. There is another true freshman coming in as well. Highly regarded? Yes. But you know what that learning curve is...

You know what you are capable of....are you willing to put in the study, film, S&C work required to be a top P5 QB? This is your opportunity. You give it all you have as a Sophomore and do all you can. If you lose out to JG, then look at how you are standing vs. HB. Is HB #2 QB or are you? If HB wins the starting job, then look seriously at your opportunity...transfer may be the best choice at that point"

TL/DR thought about what I would say...but that requires at least going through to spring practice before you really know anything. Leaving right now would be way premature.
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You lost me with this:

The coaches could open up more of the playbook with JG, and JG could read coverages/protections better.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
What other injuries did he have..to make him prone??

And how do suggeat he train his body against concussions??? In your experience
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You can't train against it....some guys are just more prone to suffer concussions than others ESPECIALLY if they have prior concussions.

So...he is prone to suffer concussions....which are injuries. ...thus he is injury prone. Not at all a comment on his toughness....just an observation of his physiology.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Ive posted the sats vs top 25 numerous times you just choose to not acknowledge them cuz it hurts your argument....show me where BM got to pad his sats against UAB Chatt, Ga St, BYU, Vandy??
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He played in some of those and was ineffective. You also left out a few stinkers.

I also debunked the played well narrative. He wasn't good except for one quarter.
 
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