Where I stand on Trump

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LAVol1

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I didn't vote for Trump. Don't know if I can vote for him this November with a good conscience because I think he is a disgusting person. But, I can separate the man from his accomplishments. We have the lowest unemployment of my lifetime. Wages are increasing substantially for the lower and middle class for the first time in many years as a result (supply/demand). Anyone who really wants a job and is willing and able to work can get one. American companies are more competitive in the world market than at any time the last 20+ years. My IRA has increased 40% this year, and doubled since Trump took office. I want Mexican laborers to come to work in the U.S., and live the American dream, but not illegally. Consequently, I can't vote against Trump or his supporters in the upcoming election. I can vote, with good conscience, against those who take every opportunity to try to bring down his presidency, ignoring all the overwhelming good that has been accomplished and the disgusting hypocrisy in their own party. I can vote against socialism. I can vote against those who stand with the LA, SF, Chicago and NY politicians who's cities are crumbling as a result of their failed policies and corruption. Just look at all the people living in tents because of high taxes and outrageous living expenses. I like to take a hard look at what is working and what is not working. It's pretty damn evident--if you don't have blinders on. Disclaimer: I am not a Republican,. They have plenty of issues that I disagree with.
 
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It's cool that your bank account has grown under Trump, but he's a big government central planner with socialist policies of his own. He spends like a maniac, signing the dems bills and allowing them to rewrite the USMCA to make it worse, all while they are impeaching the cuck in chief. He's selling our kids and grandkids down the river with a mountain of debt and economic policies that will hurt our future.

Aside from the absurd political theater, it's business as usual in Washington. The market happened to recover from a recession on Trump's watch and we're just gonna ignore all the bad because we got a little richer.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's cool that your bank account has grown under Trump, but he's a big government central planner with socialist policies of his own. He spends like a maniac, signing the dems bills and allowing them to rewrite the USMCA to make it worse. He's selling our kids and grandkids down the river with a mountain of debt and economic policies that will hurt our future.

Aside from the absurd political theater, it's business as usual in Washington. But cool that the market happened to recover from a recession on Trump's watch.
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If Hillary had won we have the same debt with less economic prosperity. I'd love a true fiscal conservative but as we've seen the alternatives lining up against Trump won't possibly be better for the national debt.
 
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LAVol1 said:
I didn't vote for Trump. Don't know if I can vote for him this November with a good conscience because I think he is a disgusting person. But, I can separate the man from his accomplishments. We have the lowest unemployment of my lifetime. Wages are increasing substantially for the lower and middle class for the first time in many years as a result (supply/demand). Anyone who really wants a job and is willing and able to work can get one. American companies are more competitive in the world market than at any time the last 20+ years. My IRA has increased 40% this year, and doubled since Trump took office. I want Mexican laborers to come to work in the U.S., and live the American dream, but not illegally. Consequently, I can't vote against Trump or his supporters in the upcoming election. I can vote, with good conscience, against those who take every opportunity to try to bring down his presidency, ignoring all the overwhelming good that has been accomplished and the disgusting hypocrisy in their own party. I can vote against socialism. I can vote against those who stand with the LA, SF, Chicago and NY politicians who's cities are crumbling as a result of their failed policies and corruption. Just look at all the people living in tents because of high taxes and outrageous living expenses. I like to take a hard look at what is working and what is not working. It's pretty damn evident--if you don't have blinders on. Disclaimer: I am not a Republican,. They have plenty of issues that I disagree with.
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I believe there are millions like you. We've been given (once again) crap choices.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's cool that your bank account has grown under Trump, but he's a big government central planner with socialist policies of his own. He spends like a maniac, signing the dems bills and allowing them to rewrite the USMCA to make it worse, all while they are impeaching the cuck in chief. He's selling our kids and grandkids down the river with a mountain of debt and economic policies that will hurt our future.

Aside from the absurd political theater, it's business as usual in Washington. The market happened to recover from a recession on Trump's watch and we're just gonna ignore all the bad because we got a little richer.
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A little richer, my ass. Well into 6 figures for me. That Trumps a lot of stuff in my book.
 
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volinbham said:
If Hillary had won we have the same debt with less economic prosperity. I'd love a true fiscal conservative but as we've seen the alternatives lining up against Trump won't possibly be better for the national debt.
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Maybe you are right about short term, but she wasn't going to start trade wars and abolish nafta, so i reject the idea that she would have been worse in the long run.

Would have been nice to have a d president vetoing all these bad republican bills the last few years. Trump just signing away on d bills. Wtf

Nonetheless, Trump is not worthy of your support, even if Hillary might've been worse.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Maybe you are right about short term, but she wasn't going to start trade wars and abolish nafta, so i reject the idea that she would have been worse in the long run.

Would have been nice to have a d president vetoing all these bad republican bills the last few years. Trump just signing away on d bills. Wtf

Nonetheless, Trump is not worthy of your support, even if Hillary might've been worse.
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Didn't vote for him and won't vote for him - I'm wasting my vote again :)
 
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When I sell the current house we are in, I am going to hold that money out of the market until after the election. Hopefully, we will be in the new house later this month.
 
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1972 Grad said:
When I sell the current house we are in, I am going to hold that money out of the market until after the election. Hopefully, we will be in the new house later this month.
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volinbham said:
can't help you there
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I used to listen to them a few years ago, and an old guy on there said that, and after he died they played that clip every day.

I looked it up, and the man was called Dub.
 
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LAVol1 said:
I didn't vote for Trump. Don't know if I can vote for him this November with a good conscience because I think he is a disgusting person. But, I can separate the man from his accomplishments. We have the lowest unemployment of my lifetime. Wages are increasing substantially for the lower and middle class for the first time in many years as a result (supply/demand). Anyone who really wants a job and is willing and able to work can get one. American companies are more competitive in the world market than at any time the last 20+ years. My IRA has increased 40% this year, and doubled since Trump took office. I want Mexican laborers to come to work in the U.S., and live the American dream, but not illegally. Consequently, I can't vote against Trump or his supporters in the upcoming election. I can vote, with good conscience, against those who take every opportunity to try to bring down his presidency, ignoring all the overwhelming good that has been accomplished and the disgusting hypocrisy in their own party. I can vote against socialism. I can vote against those who stand with the LA, SF, Chicago and NY politicians who's cities are crumbling as a result of their failed policies and corruption. Just look at all the people living in tents because of high taxes and outrageous living expenses. I like to take a hard look at what is working and what is not working. It's pretty damn evident--if you don't have blinders on. Disclaimer: I am not a Republican,. They have plenty of issues that I disagree with.
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Well, I still don't see Hillary in jail and I do not like the direction our foreign policy is going.
 
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LAVol1 said:
I didn't vote for Trump. Don't know if I can vote for him this November with a good conscience because I think he is a disgusting person. But, I can separate the man from his accomplishments. We have the lowest unemployment of my lifetime. Wages are increasing substantially for the lower and middle class for the first time in many years as a result (supply/demand). Anyone who really wants a job and is willing and able to work can get one. American companies are more competitive in the world market than at any time the last 20+ years. My IRA has increased 40% this year, and doubled since Trump took office. I want Mexican laborers to come to work in the U.S., and live the American dream, but not illegally. Consequently, I can't vote against Trump or his supporters in the upcoming election. I can vote, with good conscience, against those who take every opportunity to try to bring down his presidency, ignoring all the overwhelming good that has been accomplished and the disgusting hypocrisy in their own party. I can vote against socialism. I can vote against those who stand with the LA, SF, Chicago and NY politicians who's cities are crumbling as a result of their failed policies and corruption. Just look at all the people living in tents because of high taxes and outrageous living expenses. I like to take a hard look at what is working and what is not working. It's pretty damn evident--if you don't have blinders on. Disclaimer: I am not a Republican,. They have plenty of issues that I disagree with.
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I am a registered Democrat and black. I will be voting for Trump.
 
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