JG just can’t play good

#26
#26
Carp said:
The other team was playing prevent 90% of those drives and giving up the underneath. Not hard to complete passes against the prevent defense.

JG still has the main issues that plagued him all season. Accuracy and not going through his reads. Several plays tonight he had a wide open man yet chose to throw it into double coverage instead.
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Looked to me like JG was not willing to take what they were giving the entire game. He forced most of his passes downfield.
 
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Roller coaster ride. Hes played really well and really bad over the year.

If UT makes the next step it ll be because that is no longer the case at QB.

Just not sure he has that in him.
 
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BigNasty said:
For whatever reason he is consistently late on his throws. It’s been like that since day one. He seems to have trouble anticipating open receivers.
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It's so bizarre to me that he can come out one week, throw for a career high against a good defense in Mizzou while hitting crazy passes on 3rd and long over and over again, then come out one week later and start the game 0 for 6. I understand there were different circumstances but jeez it's been like that since he's been here. We won in spite of him last night, not because of him.

I agree, he's a great teammate it seems, a tough guy, and a true competitor... but those qualities won't win the SEC without more talent to back them up.
 
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We're not looking at the big plan, JG was a key part, we used the old rope-a-dope scheme, slowly pulling Indiana in, wearing them out, then like an explosion, JG wins the game, yes sir, he is great, and will be our starter next year.
 
#32
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Remy said:
He was the only player they had I thought could play for UT.
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I agree, and yet it still took a miracle for us to eek out a win. I don’t really come away from that game impressed from a coaching stand point. I’m neutral on Pruitt after 2 years, he really needs to show us something next year.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
Funny thing is his degree is in psychology. Maybe he’s working on his dissertation early.
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That is ironic. I didn’t know that. Almost hilarious, but sad at the same time.

I know a Psychologist that can’t get out of her house because of her Agoraphobia. Just strange that she can help others, but not herself.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Who should have played yesterday? JG played bad but there were no other realistic options. JJ in the wild dog?
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I find it hard to believe Maurer could not do better than 6 points in the first half. The only thing that bothers me is the tendency to take risks but JG's picks led to Indiana's FG and a pick 6 so hard to say it could get worse.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I find it hard to believe Maurer could not do better than 6 points in the first half. The only thing that bothers me is the tendency to take risks but JG's picks led to Indiana's FG and a pick 6 so hard to say it could get worse.
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I'm no fan of any of these QBs. I think the issue is simple:

-in 257 attempts JG has thrown 8 picks.

-In 75 attempts Brian M has thrown 5 and could easily have several more.

His comp % is also about 13 points lower. As he showed yesterday, one good looking pass and two sure fire picks dropped (one inexplicably thrown into triple coverage).

I don't believe we currently have an SEC level QB on the roster. I do think Brian has the best shot to become one but he's a long way from being ready.
 
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If we hadn't had exceptional receivers that could jump and make circus catches his completion rate would be much lower than it is.
JG is as tough as they come, a VFL and I'm proud of the way he's handled criticism and adversity but he just doesn't seem to have enough talent to be an effective SEC QB. Few do.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I find it hard to believe Maurer could not do better than 6 points in the first half. The only thing that bothers me is the tendency to take risks but JG's picks led to Indiana's FG and a pick 6 so hard to say it could get worse.
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If you watch the series that BM did play, he wasn’t recognizing the coverage at all. All three of his throws could/should’ve been picks. Even the completion, we got away with holding the safety in the slot or he would’ve stepped in front of that throw. He ran well.
 
#43
#43
JMSqb11 said:
11 games - 2,158 Passing Yard / 16 TD’s : 8 Interceptions / 59% completion percentage for 3rd year starter is atrocious in the SEC and unsustainable for winning in the SEC.

Unfortunately there isn’t a stat in there that showed a benching
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Joe Burrow RS Jr
13 games
16 tds 5 ints 57%

I guess he should have transferred from LSU or gotten benched
 
#44
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k-town_king said:
Joe Burrow RS Jr
13 games
16 tds 5 ints 57%

I guess he should have transferred from LSU or gotten benched
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In his first year of starting and then he actually took a giant leap into a Heisman season. JG has now had 25+ games over 3 seasons to make the leap and flip the switch.... He hasn't.

LSU also beat 4 ranked teams with Burrow under center last year.... The fact you would try to compare Burrow and JG is truly laughable. Almost as laughable as you saying he was one of the top tier QB's in the SEC this year......
 
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JMSqb11 said:
In his first year of starting and then he actually took a giant leap into a Heisman season. JG has now had 25+ games over 3 seasons to make the leap and flip the switch.... He hasn't.

LSU also beat 4 ranked teams with Burrow under center last year.... The fact you would try to compare Burrow and JG is truly laughable. Almost as laughable as you saying he was one of the top tier QB's in the SEC this year......
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New offense and a rs Jr year. Similar numbers. A jump can be made.
 
#47
#47
k-town_king said:
New offense and a rs Jr year. Similar numbers. A jump can be made.
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The thing you love prove you wrong very much. And that thing is stats. I just looked it up.

Over the 3 years that JG has started this is what games vs P5 teams look like (Counting BYU):

2017: 15.5 points scored in losses (6 starts) / 0 wins
2018: 17.5 points scored in losses (7 starts) / 22.5 points in 2 wins
2019: 14.5 points scored in losses (2 starts) / 25 points in 3 wins

2017: 1 game (Loss to UK) where we scored more than 24 points
2018: 1 game (Win at Auburn) where we scored more than 24 points
2019: 2 games (Loss vs BYU / Win vs Vandy) where we scored more than 24 points

To cap it off, we are losing Jennings, Callaway, and Wood-Anderson to graduation. So a historically mediocre JG is somehow going to make a jump from what he's done for 3 years all while breaking in young and new starters outside of Palmer?

Burrow made the leap because he and the offensive skill players were all coming back...... JG, if he is starter, is going to have 2 new receivers, new tight end, and Palmer. There is zero confidence that he is going to make a giant leap (like Burrow since you are keen on comparing JG to Burrow)......

But yes, lets just ignore 3 years of proof that he is not a QB who is capable of sustaining success throughout an entire season.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
The thing you love prove you wrong very much. And that thing is stats. I just looked it up.

Over the 3 years that JG has started this is what games vs P5 teams look like (Counting BYU):

2017: 15.5 points scored in losses (6 starts) / 0 wins
2018: 17.5 points scored in losses (7 starts) / 22.5 points in 2 wins
2019: 14.5 points scored in losses (2 starts) / 25 points in 3 wins

2017: 1 game (Loss to UK) where we scored more than 24 points
2018: 1 game (Win at Auburn) where we scored more than 24 points
2019: 2 games (Loss vs BYU / Win vs Vandy) where we scored more than 24 points

To cap it off, we are losing Jennings, Callaway, and Wood-Anderson to graduation. So a historically mediocre JG is somehow going to make a jump from what he's done for 3 years all while breaking in young and new starters outside of Palmer?

Burrow made the leap because he and the offensive skill players were all coming back...... JG, if he is starter, is going to have 2 new receivers, new tight end, and Palmer. There is zero confidence that he is going to make a giant leap (like Burrow since you are keen on comparing JG to Burrow)......

But yes, lets just ignore 3 years of proof that he is not a QB who is capable of sustaining success throughout an entire season.
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So numbers like Burrow last year?
Burrow in 2018 Vs

Miami 11/24 140 yards 0tds 0 ints 140

Aub 15/34 249 yds 1 td 0 ints ( JG had better game vs same team last year)

UF 19/34 192 yards 0tds 2 ints

UGA 15/30 200 yards 0 tds 0 ints

Ala 18/35 184 yards 0 tds 1 int

VS decent teams last year Burrow 78/157 49% 1 td 3ints

His rs JR year and Jg's are really similar.

Any real Vol fan should look at that and hope JG makes a big leap too.
 
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k-town_king said:
So numbers like Burrow last year?
Burrow in 2018 Vs

Miami 11/24 140 yards 0tds 0 ints 140

Aub 15/34 249 yds 1 td 0 ints ( JG had better game vs same team last year)

UF 19/34 192 yards 0tds 2 ints

UGA 15/30 200 yards 0 tds 0 ints

Ala 18/35 184 yards 0 tds 1 int

VS decent teams last year Burrow 78/157 49% 1 td 3ints

His rs JR year and Jg's are really similar.

Any real Vol fan should look at that and hope JG makes a big leap too.
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Also JG had 8 wins this year. Not three
 
#50
#50
k-town_king said:
So numbers like Burrow last year?
Burrow in 2018 Vs

Miami 11/24 140 yards 0tds 0 ints 140

Aub 15/34 249 yds 1 td 0 ints ( JG had better game vs same team last year)

UF 19/34 192 yards 0tds 2 ints

UGA 15/30 200 yards 0 tds 0 ints

Ala 18/35 184 yards 0 tds 1 int

VS decent teams last year Burrow 78/157 49% 1 td 3ints

His rs JR year and Jg's are really similar.

Any real Vol fan should look at that and hope JG makes a big leap too.
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Yet with those stats, LSU went 9-4 with 4 wins over ranked opponents (#8 Miami, #7 Auburn, #2 Georgia, #22 Mississippi State)

Somehow comparing JG's 3 years of mediocrity to 1 year of Burrow's first season of starting is absurd. Burrow actually made a jump in a calendar year..... JG has played the same in 20+ starts over 3 seasons. And once again, there is zero proof that he can make that jump all while losing 3 of our top 4 receiving targets..... They made JG look good more than JG made them look good.

Imagine a world where someone tries to equate JG to Joe Burrow in any fashion. Truly amazing stuff.
 
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