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VolunteerVandiver said:
Too much separation between the good teams and the elite teams in CFB. There are typically 2 to 3 teams each year that can win a NC... occassionally there may be 4, but never more than that. No need to expand the Playoffs to accommodate a few extra blowouts.
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Agree with this.

Increasing to eight also diminishes the importance of regular season games.

There used to be only 12-14 bowl games. All games were good/great matchups. Now we have 30-40 bowls games and the discussion is all about ”can they take this 6 win team” to fill a bowl roster. Most of us don‘t even watch 50% of the games out there.

Eventually, this thing is headed to 4 - 6 conferences with each confernce having 12-14 teams.

The NCAA will become a thing of the past.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I know. He was all OSU, but instate kind of fits that bill
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I want to say South Carolina was highly involved. Seems like I remember Jr saying Lattimore was recruiting him. Jr was was friends with his sister and was constantly pushing the Vols. Every day he would say “that family says there’s too much drama with us”. He went to Ohio St and allegedly ran a 4.3 at a camp. It was over after that.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Expanded playoffs will make it where kids don't think they have to go to one of five or six schools to have a chance at a title. It is the future you have to look at to see the real value of the eight team playoff...not the right now.

Why are you guys so against more football? That is so dang weird to me.
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College football just isn’t a tournament sport the way college basketball is. We get plenty of postseason football with the bowl system. There’s like 60 bowls right? Plenty of pretty good matchups.

Expansion is too romanticized. This is JMO, but I think of college football as regional. It’s not national like the NFL. Conference championships should be the prize. Three teams should compete for the national title. Let the top dog play the winner of a play-in game. Like last night, everyone saw Oklahoma didn’t belong before the game started. Memphis playing any of those teams last night does nothing.

JMO. I don’t dislike your opinion, nor hate more football.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Agree with this.

Increasing to eight also diminishes the importance of regular season games.

There used to be only 12-14 bowl games. All games were good/great matchups. Now we have 30-40 bowls games and the discussion is all about ”can they take this 6 win team” to fill a bowl roster. Most of us don‘t even watch 50% of the games out there.

Eventually, this thing is headed to 4 - 6 conferences with each confernce having 12-14 teams.

The NCAA will become a thing of the past.
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I think there will always be a level of college football that is geared towards true amateur athletes. There are people who will go to support their school and there are plenty of guys who will play for no scholarship. Best case scenario IMO is that the XFL works out and syphons off the handful of guys that really can play pro ball right out of HS or a year of prep school, which would force the NFL to do the same thing. Take those guys out of the equation and you won't see any more of these dynasties where three or four programs get most of the 5* prospects every class.
 
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Volnerd said:
I just read in the Atlanta paper that Jason Witten is probably going to quit playing and wants to get into coaching. Rumors are going around that he would like to be at UT. I think this would be awesome as long as we can keep Nieds somewhere.
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Can you link the article? I would be all for him coming here but USA Today is saying he wants to coach in the NFL.

Dallas Cowboys: Jason Witten wants to coach in NFL

Edit: butch beat me to it.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
It’s hilarious that anyone actually believes God cares about the result of a football game. The only winning and losing He cares about is each player’s salvation.
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Amen. There would also be no injuries, anger, etc. that contribute to a win or a loss of one team or another.

I believe that living as a witness for Christ and His redeeming love and sacrifice in whatever endeavor is more what God is interested in providing to the world. I will not attempt to judge what Dabo or any other person is representing, but if they say they are winning games because they are believers, well, wrong path IMO. There is a line you should not cross because losing games may also be valuable as a witness for Christ if that is what the Lord wants you and others to experience and see. It is scriptural that the believer is to be willingly available and used as an instrument no matter the personal worldly gain or loss.
 
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Vols4us said:
Amen. There would also be no injuries, anger, etc. that contribute to a win or a loss of one team or another.

I believe that living as a witness for Christ and His redeeming love and sacrifice in whatever endeavor is more what God is interested in providing to the world. I will not attempt to judge what Dabo or any other person is representing, but if they say they are winning games because they are believers, well, wrong path IMO. There is a line you should not cross because losing games may also be valuable as a witness for Christ if that is what the Lord wants you and others to experience and see. It is scriptural that the believer is to be willingly available and used as an instrument no matter the personal worldly gain or loss.
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I tend to agree but don't dismiss the possibility that the Creator rewards those who credit Him for their successes.
 
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Vols4us said:
Amen. There would also be no injuries, anger, etc. that contribute to a win or a loss of one team or another.

I believe that living as a witness for Christ and His redeeming love and sacrifice in whatever endeavor is more what God is interested in providing to the world. I will not attempt to judge what Dabo or any other person is representing, but if they say they are winning games because they are believers, well, wrong path IMO. There is a line you should not cross because losing games may also be valuable as a witness for Christ if that is what the Lord wants you and others to experience and see. It is scriptural that the believer is to be willingly available and used as an instrument no matter the personal worldly gain or loss.
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Volnerd said:
I just read in the Atlanta paper that Jason Witten is probably going to quit playing and wants to get into coaching. Rumors are going around that he would like to be at UT. I think this would be awesome as long as we can keep Nieds somewhere.
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Gruden?

I think at this point Jason's ties to E TN are family and business interests. Could be wrong. I believe he has amassed substantial land in TX. Cant imagine him turning down an NFL job for TN.
 
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engineerVOL said:
College football just isn’t a tournament sport the way college basketball is. We get plenty of postseason football with the bowl system. There’s like 60 bowls right? Plenty of pretty good matchups.

Expansion is too romanticized. This is JMO, but I think of college football as regional. It’s not national like the NFL. Conference championships should be the prize. Three teams should compete for the national title. Let the top dog play the winner of a play-in game. Like last night, everyone saw Oklahoma didn’t belong before the game started. Memphis playing any of those teams last night does nothing.

JMO. I don’t dislike your opinion, nor hate more football.
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I know that I have a very different feeling about this, and it really goes against my nature. I am such a traditionalist about literally everything else...but not this. I have always hated the lack of a college playoff, maybe it is because I was a NFL fan as a boy before I moved to Knoxville and got introduced to college football. I don't give a crap about the bowls other than they have always provided a chance to see more football.

I have always despised the whole "Mythical National Championship" garbage. I will never get the "College football is not a tournament sport" argument...seeing as how every freakin level of football...from HS to college to NFL has one.

I think the old way is the romanticized way. It sucks, it has always sucked and it will continue to suck as long as they don't get it closer to right.

Eight or die
 
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MwB said:
That can't be right. The largest hands measured in the history of the combine are 11.75 inches, shared by three different people.
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when he was 14.... so yeah not that big but probably pretty damn big
Richards and Mansell were among those present as players such as current Georgia quarterback Jacob Eason and current Florida quarterback Feleipe Franks were getting their hands measured.

Mansell recalled that Eason and Franks measured in "around 9 ½ or 9 ¾."

For comparison, the top two overall selections in last April's NFL draft were Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. Goff's hands measured in at 9 ⅛ inches and Wentz at 10 inches, as detailed by the Indianapolis Star's Laken Litman, previously of For The Win.
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Bailey, then 14 years old, had hands that measured almost 11 inches.

"We were all looking at each other like, 'Wait a minute!'" Mansell says. "You start talking about hand size and how he's able to spin the ball—that was the first indicator to me that this kid is different."
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Lane Train 4 said:
Hey man you raise a great point. I was disagreeing with you until this post. The current system does create an elitist recruiting advantage for the schools that get in regularly. So P5 champs get an auto bid with 2 at large and 1 G5 champ sound good?
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Yeah...except for the G5 getting an auto. They will get the best of them in when they have a team that deserves it, and there are years when they will not have a deserving team.
 
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pismonque said:
I don’t entirely have a problem with that. You’d have to win your way in and you get a 6 team tournament where the 1 and 2 seeds get a first round bye.

Used to be whoever finished the season ranked No. 1 was the champion but everybody wanted it to be won on the field so it became 1and 2 playing for it.

The main reason for a 4 team system is to eliminate the arguments over who got snubbed for the two championship game slots. With a 6-team slate, if you can’t win your way in you can’t legitimately argue that you should be playing for the championship, and the two teams who seed 1 and 2 get rewarded but still have to earn it.
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Eight or die
 
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jackcrevol said:
Gruden?

I think at this point Jason's ties to E TN are family and business interests. Could be wrong. I believe he has amassed substantial land in TX. Cant imagine him turning down an NFL job for TN.
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I have seen these articles about Witten also. Yes, he has family and business interests but is also a VFL. Perhaps the Titans could use him.
 
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