This why Kirby doesn’t scare me.

#152
#152
Kirby is smack dab in the middle of a talent rich highly populated state. There is probably more talent within a 50 mile radius of Athens than in the entire state of Tennessee, including Memphis that is umpteen hundred miles from Knoxville. Half of all vehicles here in GA have Georgia stickers, many high school coaches are Bulldog fans, and I see a GA logo on mailboxes, flags and yard signs everywhere. He should win the NC with his eyes closed with this much talent around him.
 
#154
#154
volroadwarrior said:
Kirby is smack dab in the middle of a talent rich highly populated state. There is probably more talent within a 50 mile radius of Athens than in the entire state of Tennessee, including Memphis that is umpteen hundred miles from Knoxville. Half of all vehicles here in GA have Georgia stickers, many high school coaches are Bulldog fans, and I see a GA logo on mailboxes, flags and yard signs everywhere. He should win the NC with his eyes closed with this much talent around him.
Click to expand...
Mullen and Jimbo are in the same situation and both are much better coaches in my mind.
 
#155
#155
cgrish said:
I agree with you. I also wonder why any good qb that plays in a spread uptempo offense would want to go to Ga. Kirby is not going to change his offensive style.
Click to expand...
Its bc the narrative has been that u need to come from a pro style offense to have early success in the NFL. Imho once u identify your qb on any level u should do whatever he does best
 
  • Like
Reactions: cgrish
#156
#156
rikberry31 said:
Dodging the question and not a wise strategy. Back to the question, Eason or Fromm who you taking?
Click to expand...
Not really dodging the question. Drafted QB's are such a mixed bag.

Eason has more physical talent by a pretty wide margin IMO.

I still wouldn't draft either though. I'd take someone else. I don't think Fromm has the physical talent to be a good NFL QB. I'd be concerned about Eason between the ears.
 
#157
#157
rikberry31 said:
Between Eason and Fromm, who you got?
Click to expand...
In the NFL? Eason. In UGA’s offense? Fromm. Again, how their game translates to the NFL is irrelevant when talking about how each would do in college at UGA. You’re changing the entire argument when talking about the NFL. That’s like saying Tom Brady would be a better college QB than Tebow in Urban Meyer’s offense because Brady was a better NFL QB. Different players handle the jump to the NFL differently. Multiple heisman winning QB’s had mediocre nfl careers because their game didn’t translate, but that doesn’t diminish what they did in college.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol
#158
#158
volroadwarrior said:
Kirby is smack dab in the middle of a talent rich highly populated state. There is probably more talent within a 50 mile radius of Athens than in the entire state of Tennessee, including Memphis that is umpteen hundred miles from Knoxville. Half of all vehicles here in GA have Georgia stickers, many high school coaches are Bulldog fans, and I see a GA logo on mailboxes, flags and yard signs everywhere. He should win the NC with his eyes closed with this much talent around him.
Click to expand...
lol maybe if kids were required to go to school instate. Georgia is surrounded be multiple successful colleges that have great recruiters and products to sell. I don’t think any coach can walk off the street and win a natty in his first 4 years as being a head coach. There are multiple things that play into it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol
#159
#159
Wrong temperament for long term success. Richt was way too relaxed. When the games get tight Kirby is too intense for the sound decision making required.

To be fair, I believe the same will be said about Pru once we get back to meaningful tight games. *Sidenote, I firmly believe Pru is aware of this, which is why we are paying Chaney what we are*
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol
#160
#160
Atlanta917 said:
lol maybe if kids were required to go to school instate. Georgia is surrounded be multiple successful colleges that have great recruiters and products to sell. I don’t think any coach can walk off the street and win a natty in his first 4 years as being a head coach. There are multiple things that play into it.
Click to expand...

Agree, but the advantages are significant.
 
#162
#162
Atlanta917 said:
Fromm made plenty of adjustments at the line of scrimmage. I’d say getting out of a bad play and into a good one is a good quality for a QB to have. Also, Eason also had Michel and Chubb in the backfield his freshman year and didn’t get very far with them.
Click to expand...
Yes his best quality is as a running game manager.

Hi UGA247 lurkers. XXXXOOOO
 
#163
#163
rikberry31 said:
Jacob Eason is a likely an NFL first round pick, Fields a potential Heisman candidate and Kirby chose Fromm, a poor man’s Greg McElroy. Kirby is a good DC and recruiter, poor head coach.
Click to expand...
This moronic posts sounds just as stupid as KY fans when they try and trash talk UT football and also how pathetic UGA fans sounded in the 90's. Kirby has outscored us by almost 100 points the last three years. How about lets come within 4 TD's of him before saying his pathetic.

Also, I'm assuming if Kirby is so bad then Pruitt should be able to beat him soon and if not, then you are saying CJP isn't the right man for not being able to beat such a terrible coach?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol, The Original Fade and whodeycin85
#164
#164
Smokeyone said:
Yes his best quality is as a running game manager.

Hi UGA247 lurkers. XXXXOOOO
Click to expand...
I also think his pre snap reads are better than his arm. If I’m honest, I have no idea what to make of Fromm. I’ve seen him make NFL level throws and I’ve seen him struggle with the deep ball for 3 years. While the WR’s caused more issues than I thought, ppl shoving all the blame on them are blind. He missed multiple open receivers in the SECC. Either Fromm regressed from year 1 and year 2 or Hardman, wims, holloman, Ridley, and Nauta made him look better than he actually was.
 
#165
#165
Atlanta917 said:
lol maybe if kids were required to go to school instate. Georgia is surrounded be multiple successful colleges that have great recruiters and products to sell. I don’t think any coach can walk off the street and win a natty in his first 4 years as being a head coach. There are multiple things that play into it.
Click to expand...

Any coach can recruit at UGA, now as far as can one walk off the street and win a Natty in his first 4 years. Well since UGA hasnt gotten one since 1980 or whatever with Walker it actually takes a coach that can develop players after he recruits those studs. So far I haven't seen all that much from Smart. Right now his player development is a question mark and his game day coaching sure as heck is a question mark since he has made a ton of DUMB decisions in ballgames, especially close ones. However about any idiot can recruit to UGA and almost any idiot can out-talent most of the teams they play at UGA. That's why St Helen Richt was so good there and wasn't very much at Miami before he retired. UGA has great facilities, good tradition and a TON of stud players within a few hours of Athens. Richt couldnt recruit to Miami because although surrounded there is still UF, FSU to worry about as well as Bama, Auburn and others come raiding the state and Miami has terrible and i mean terrible facilities. UGA has 2 all time NC claimed while UT has a few more, UGA just hasnt had the coaches there to take advantage of their recruiting and its been great because if they ever do figure out how to hire a Saban or Urban Meyer they will win BIG. I mean Dooley was there 25 years and won 1 and that was with Walker, besides that nothing else to show. Richt went 145-51 there without a class outside top 10 in recruiting with no NC for a 74% win mark, he went 26-13 at Miami. Smart is 43-12 there which is a 78% win mark again never finishing outside top 10 in recruiting.

ALSO with Smart he never won a NC without Saban. At least Pruitt can say he won a NC at 2 different schools with 2 different coaches. I wont say Smart isnt a good football coach, being a good recruiter is a big part of that, however he hasnt proven a thing about being a great football coach. Also when Pruitt helped win the NC at FSU their defense returned exactly 3 starters from the prior year. So not liked he stepped into a goldmine of a defense. The year prior FSU went 12-2 losing 8 defensive starters 7 of which were drafted. Hopefully he can continue to build a great foundation at UT and beat Smart a bunch of times. Of course Pruitt stepped into a dumpster field while Smart stepped into a team that had just finished 9-3.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MemphisVol77 and SCRocket
#166
#166
Bigorangefaninga said:
Any coach can recruit at UGA, now as far as can one walk off the street and win a Natty in his first 4 years. Well since UGA hasnt gotten one since 1980 or whatever with Walker it actually takes a coach that can develop players after he recruits those studs. So far I haven't seen all that much from Smart. Right now his player development is a question mark and his game day coaching sure as heck is a question mark since he has made a ton of DUMB decisions in ballgames, especially close ones. However about any idiot can recruit to UGA and almost any idiot can out-talent most of the teams they play at UGA. That's why St Helen Richt was so good there and wasn't very much at Miami before he retired. UGA has great facilities, good tradition and a TON of stud players within a few hours of Athens. Richt couldnt recruit to Miami because although surrounded there is still UF, FSU to worry about as well as Bama, Auburn and others come raiding the state and Miami has terrible and i mean terrible facilities. UGA has 2 all time NC claimed while UT has a few more, UGA just hasnt had the coaches there to take advantage of their recruiting and its been great because if they ever do figure out how to hire a Saban or Urban Meyer they will win BIG. I mean Dooley was there 25 years and won 1 and that was with Walker, besides that nothing else to show. Richt went 145-51 there without a class outside top 10 in recruiting with no NC for a 74% win mark, he went 26-13 at Miami. Smart is 43-12 there which is a 78% win mark again never finishing outside top 10 in recruiting.

ALSO with Smart he never won a NC without Saban. At least Pruitt can say he won a NC at 2 different schools with 2 different coaches. I wont say Smart isnt a good football coach, being a good recruiter is a big part of that, however he hasnt proven a thing about being a great football coach. Also when Pruitt helped win the NC at FSU their defense returned exactly 3 starters from the prior year. So not liked he stepped into a goldmine of a defense. The year prior FSU went 12-2 losing 8 defensive starters 7 of which were drafted. Hopefully he can continue to build a great foundation at UT and beat Smart a bunch of times. Of course Pruitt stepped into a dumpster field while Smart stepped into a team that had just finished 9-3.
Click to expand...
Smart has produced a Thorpe award winner and Butkus award winner, so he’s clearly developed talent. He had UGA’s best season in 40 years in his second year and has had UGA relevant 3/4 years of his tenure compared to Richt 1/5 years. He’s 1-1 in the playoffs and 1-2 SECC games. I doubt any would say he’s had a bad start. In order for smart to succeed he’ll need to find the right OC and be willing to update his offense. As far as only being able to out talent, he has 7-4 record against top 10 team and Saban also missed a fake FG in the natty. The jury is definitely still out on smart, but he’s been successful thus far.

There’s also more to football than just the recruiting rankings. UGA’s recruiting rank has been around 3rd and UGA has finished 3rd, 5th, and 5th at the end of the regular season he past 3 years. It’ll take a better OC and updated offensive philosophy to push Kirby and UGA over the hump.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol
#167
#167
Bigun said:
This moronic posts sounds just as stupid as KY fans when they try and trash talk UT football and also how pathetic UGA fans sounded in the 90's. Kirby has outscored us by almost 100 points the last three years. How about lets come within 4 TD's of him before saying his pathetic.

Also, I'm assuming if Kirby is so bad then Pruitt should be able to beat him soon and if not, then you are saying CJP isn't the right man for not being able to beat such a terrible coach?
Click to expand...

Seriously you have to be smarter than this? Or maybe not per some of your other posts! GA is the 4th best state in the country for Recruits. It literally is about the only big time football program in the entire state as GA Tech has very strict academic standards that lord knows UGA does not, WHILE Texas has UT, TTU, Baylor to split recruits with. Cali has Cal, UCLA, USC to split their recruits with and Florida has UF, FSU and Miami to split recruits with. Last I saw of the top 500 players in the country those 4 states have 238 of them. With GA now 3rd best state in the country for star recruits passing Cali. Also Smart took over a 9-3 team with 1 losing record in the past 15 years(6-7 2010 team) and only 2 losing records since 1996. WHILE Pruitt took over from a guy who pretty much QUIT recruiting and had the same amount of losing series as UGA did in his 5 years. Pruitt took over a 4-6 team also. So yes, we know you think Smart would look good comparing him to the past few years. But he is also the idiot that allowed the Dobbnail boot to happen, as his team held a lead and let UT come back to even have the chance at the hail mary! Took a 9-3 team and made them 8-5. Smart has already reached his peak as even Precious Dooley could win at UGA and he was a terrible head coach UT had to endure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 70EEVol
#168
#168
Atlanta917 said:
Smart has produced a Thorpe award winner and Butkus award winner, so he’s clearly developed talent. He had UGA’s best season in 40 years in his second year and has had UGA relevant 3/4 years of his tenure compared to Richt 1/5 years. He’s 1-1 in the playoffs and 1-2 SECC games. I doubt any would say he’s had a bad start. In order for smart to succeed he’ll need to find the right OC and be willing to update his offense. As far as only being able to out talent, he has 7-4 record against top 10 team and Saban also missed a fake FG in the natty. The jury is definitely still out on smart, but he’s been successful thus far.

There’s also more to football than just the recruiting rankings. UGA’s recruiting rank has been around 3rd and UGA has finished 3rd, 5th, and 5th at the end of the regular season he past 3 years. It’ll take a better OC and updated offensive philosophy to push Kirby and UGA over the hump.
Click to expand...
Dude didn't produce a thrope award winner he recruited one.
 
#169
#169
Bigorangefaninga said:
Seriously you have to be smarter than this? Or maybe not per some of your other posts! GA is the 4th best state in the country for Recruits. It literally is about the only big time football program in the entire state as GA Tech has very strict academic standards that lord knows UGA does not, WHILE Texas has UT, TTU, Baylor to split recruits with. Cali has Cal, UCLA, USC to split their recruits with and Florida has UF, FSU and Miami to split recruits with. Last I saw of the top 500 players in the country those 4 states have 238 of them. With GA now 3rd best state in the country for star recruits passing Cali. Also Smart took over a 9-3 team with 1 losing record in the past 15 years(6-7 2010 team) and only 2 losing records since 1996. WHILE Pruitt took over from a guy who pretty much QUIT recruiting and had the same amount of losing series as UGA did in his 5 years. Pruitt took over a 4-6 team also. So yes, we know you think Smart would look good comparing him to the past few years. But he is also the idiot that allowed the Dobbnail boot to happen, as his team held a lead and let UT come back to even have the chance at the hail mary! Took a 9-3 team and made them 8-5. Smart has already reached his peak as even Precious Dooley could win at UGA and he was a terrible head coach UT had to endure.
Click to expand...
Baylor and TT don’t take any recruits from Texas. In fact, GT is ranked ahead of both those schools in recruiting. Also, Derek Dooley never coached at UGA...
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol
#170
#170
Bigorangefaninga said:
Seriously you have to be smarter than this? Or maybe not per some of your other posts! GA is the 4th best state in the country for Recruits. It literally is about the only big time football program in the entire state as GA Tech has very strict academic standards that lord knows UGA does not, WHILE Texas has UT, TTU, Baylor to split recruits with. Cali has Cal, UCLA, USC to split their recruits with and Florida has UF, FSU and Miami to split recruits with. Last I saw of the top 500 players in the country those 4 states have 238 of them. With GA now 3rd best state in the country for star recruits passing Cali. Also Smart took over a 9-3 team with 1 losing record in the past 15 years(6-7 2010 team) and only 2 losing records since 1996. WHILE Pruitt took over from a guy who pretty much QUIT recruiting and had the same amount of losing series as UGA did in his 5 years. Pruitt took over a 4-6 team also. So yes, we know you think Smart would look good comparing him to the past few years. But he is also the idiot that allowed the Dobbnail boot to happen, as his team held a lead and let UT come back to even have the chance at the hail mary! Took a 9-3 team and made them 8-5. Smart has already reached his peak as even Precious Dooley could win at UGA and he was a terrible head coach UT had to endure.
Click to expand...
Smartt signed a whopping 5 players from the state of Georgia this year (so far) and they are in line for a Top 3 class again. They are recruiting at a level Richt never approached and recruiting a different kind of athlete. Much more physical and fast.

If you want to say a coach is an idiot who's teams have outscored us 122-26 the past three years go ahead, but you sound just as stupid and pathetic and UK and UGA fans do/did when Fulmer completely owned them. How about let's be remotely competitive with Smart before we say he is trash.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 08Vol
#174
#174
Atlanta917 said:
Smart has produced a Thorpe award winner and Butkus award winner, so he’s clearly developed talent. He had UGA’s best season in 40 years in his second year and has had UGA relevant 3/4 years of his tenure compared to Richt 1/5 years. He’s 1-1 in the playoffs and 1-2 SECC games. I doubt any would say he’s had a bad start. In order for smart to succeed he’ll need to find the right OC and be willing to update his offense. As far as only being able to out talent, he has 7-4 record against top 10 team and Saban also missed a fake FG in the natty. The jury is definitely still out on smart, but he’s been successful thus far.

There’s also more to football than just the recruiting rankings. UGA’s recruiting rank has been around 3rd and UGA has finished 3rd, 5th, and 5th at the end of the regular season he past 3 years. It’ll take a better OC and updated offensive philosophy to push Kirby and UGA over the hump.
Click to expand...

That would be like me stating Lane Kiffin developed a ton of talent here because he had Eric Berry who won an award. And looking at his numbers Baker really wasnt all that good the year he won, actually he prob should have won it the year before instead. He might have won the award but so did Rodrigo Blakenship and I would take Cimiglia over him any day of the week and his chokeness.

Also just to correct you St Helen led UGA to their best season in his second season which was 13-1 in 2002(smart finished 13-2 in 2017 after getting his crap pushed in by Auburn 40-17, very hard to beat the same team twice in the same year as LSU learned with one of Bama's titles). Every other year after that was pretty dang good, but still no NC hmmmmm. Looks like history might just repeat itself.
 
#175
#175
Atlanta917 said:
How did he not develop one? Baker was a 3* sophomore who had never seen the field when Kirby arrived at UGA.
Click to expand...

Baker played in 11 games his True Fresh year but most was on special teams so he for sure was developed from a 3 star corner. I see UT with Pruitt doing some of the same.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top