2020 qb comparison/talk/debate (merged)

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Raebo said:
Yes, but it has been about 40 years since I took a math class and I did that pretty quickly so it might be off. At one time I was a math major.
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@k-town_king would like for you to work out another math problem if you so choose.

If a qb starts a season at 25% of his first 15 passes(4/15), only throws the ball another 56 times and reaches 47% to end a season, what percentage would he have to be at through the remaining games to reach that 47%? My guess is around 55-60%.
 
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k-town_king said:
@1vol8 He was consistently inaccurate and turnover prone. That's about it.

JG getting comfortable in the o, like he already said in interviews, is what improved his play. That and the defense helping out more.
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That’s what I can’t respect about you. You argue a point and once someone beats you at your own game you disappear instead of just saying “ You’re right.”
 
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Maurer’s completion percentage is probably not worth much since he had a relatively limited number of throws. The difference between the number looking inaccurate at 47% and efficient at 60% is 9 completions.
 
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GAVol said:
Maurer’s completion percentage is probably not worth much since he had a relatively limited number of throws. The difference between the number looking inaccurate at 47% and efficient at 60% is 9 completions.
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Exactly. And there have been that many drops. So @k-town_king just got beat at his own game. Which is why he’s silent.
 
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1vol8 said:
Well you have a misunderstanding of accuracy so I don’t expect you to understand but an accurate pass actually CAN be dropped or defended. You do realize he started vs UGA already behind at 4/13 due to the UF and UTC game don’t you? With the 2 drops to start the game vs UGA he was 4/15 before ever completing a single pass inside Neyland stadium. That just over 25% due to no fault of his own before he ever even got started. To reach 47% in his limited time speaks to how wrong you are. He was not only consistent but EXTREMELY accurate...... obviously right?
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1vol8 said:
@k-town_king would like for you to work out another math problem if you so choose.

If a qb starts a season at 25% of his first 15 passes(4/15), only throws the ball another 56 times and reaches 47% to end a season, what percentage would he have to be at through the remaining games to reach that 47%? My guess is around 55-60%.
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1vol8 said:
That’s what I can’t respect about you. You argue a point and once someone beats you at your own game you disappear instead of just saying “ You’re right.”
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1vol8 said:
Exactly. And there have been that many drops. So @k-town_king just got beat at his own game. Which is why he’s silent.
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Sorry buddy its called having a career. I've been busy


He has not been accurate. REGARDLESS of pass completion he only threw 45.83% of his passes ACCURATELY.

He was consistently inaccurate. He consistently failed to throw tds. He was very consistent.

He also threw those 4/15. Can't erase them. Then he still had a low percentage after those games. His one decent game he was only 50% passing.


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Maurer’s completion percentage is probably not worth much since he had a relatively limited number of throws. The difference between the number looking inaccurate at 47% and efficient at 60% is 9 completions.
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Great point. One that is actually valid. Regardless of completion percentage his throws were only accurate 45.83% third worst in the SEC. He wasn't accurate. The worst on the team and third worst in the league.
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k-town_king said:
Sorry buddy its called having a career. I've been busy


He has not been accurate. REGARDLESS of pass completion he only threw 45.83% of his passes ACCURATELY.

He was consistently inaccurate. He consistently failed to throw tds. He was very consistent.

He also threw those 4/15. Can't erase them. Then he still had a low percentage after those games. His one decent game he was only 50% passing.




Great point. One that is actually valid. Regardless of completion percentage his throws were only accurate 45.83% third worst in the SEC. He wasn't accurate. The worst on the team and third worst in the league.
Secstatcat
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🤔. You’re unbelievable! Your bias won’t even allow you to admit that I’m right. He would’ve HAD to be more effective than you suggest he was to reach 47% in his next 56 passes after Starting at 25% accuracy before he was ever prepped for a game. It suggests he HAD to be around 55-60% from UGA forward. I’m sorry dude but the numbers say you gotta take this L and move on. You love stats so much...... there you go.
 
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How awesome would it be for TN to go 10-3 next season with JG playing every meaningful snap and redshirt HB.....A seasoned HB, along with Pruitts influx of talent, takes our program to competing for championships in 2021
 
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1vol8 said:
@k-town_king would like for you to work out another math problem if you so choose.

If a qb starts a season at 25% of his first 15 passes(4/15), only throws the ball another 56 times and reaches 47% to end a season, what percentage would he have to be at through the remaining games to reach that 47%? My guess is around 55-60%.
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He would need to complete 33 of the 71 passes to get 47%. In this example he would need to complete 29 of 56 passes or 52%.
 
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Raebo said:
He would need to complete 33 of the 71 passes to get 47%. In this example he would need to complete 29 of 56 passes or 52%.
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That’s a little lower than I thought but nevertheless proves my point. In other words he was comparable to Bo Nix but actually better vs top 25 teams. Thank you.
 
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k-town_king said:
Sorry buddy its called having a career. I've been busy


He has not been accurate. REGARDLESS of pass completion he only threw 45.83% of his passes ACCURATELY.

He was consistently inaccurate. He consistently failed to throw tds. He was very consistent.

He also threw those 4/15. Can't erase them. Then he still had a low percentage after those games. His one decent game he was only 50% passing.




Great point. One that is actually valid. Regardless of completion percentage his throws were only accurate 45.83% third worst in the SEC. He wasn't accurate. The worst on the team and third worst in the league.
Secstatcat
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I’ll just leave this here.
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k-town_king said:
What point are you trying to make? Nix was better than BM by a mile in every stat.
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Im not trying to be mean. But are you honestly that naive or do you enjoy the debate?

You dont see that BM complete 50% of his pass vs top 25. Which is higher then 49.7% also if you even the attempt BM throw for more yards and tds. But also more ints. So better by a mile is kinda a dumb statement..
 
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k-town_king said:
What point are you trying to make? Nix was better than BM by a mile in every stat.
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BM was actually better vs top 25 teams in comparison %. His completion % from the time they began to tailor the offense to him is comparable overall. The difference? Bo Nix coaches stuck with him “ride or die” where BMs criticized his every move..... publicly. And he STILL showed (on paper) to be every bit as good as the golden boy of freshman starting QBs. More opportunity doesn’t mean better.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Im not trying to be mean. But are you honestly that naive or do you enjoy the debate?

You dont see that BM complete 50% of his pass vs top 25. Which is higher then 49.7% also if you even the attempt BM throw for more yards and tds. But also more ints. So better by a mile is kinda a dumb statement..
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He REFUSES to admit he’s been beaten at his own game.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Im not trying to be mean. But are you honestly that naive or do you enjoy the debate?

You dont see that BM complete 50% of his pass vs top 25. Which is higher then 49.7% also if you even the attempt BM throw for more yards and tds. But also more ints. So better by a mile is kinda a dumb statement..
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150 more attempts and 50% to 49.7%. Pretty much even and that is with 150 more attempts.
7/6 td int ratio to 2/3

57% to 47% on the year.

BM did not play well vs any of the ranked teams. UGA was his best and he was bad after the first 16 minutes.
 
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k-town_king said:
150 more attempts and 50% to 49.7%. Pretty much even and that is with 150 more attempts.
7/6 td int ratio to 2/3

57% to 47% on the year.

BM did not play well vs any of the ranked teams. UGA was his best and he was bad after the first 16 minutes.
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Little something to listen to. If you read between the lines Kirby tells the media “we adjusted and they did not.
 
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k-town_king said:
150 more attempts and 50% to 49.7%. Pretty much even and that is with 150 more attempts.
7/6 td int ratio to 2/3

57% to 47% on the year.

BM did not play well vs any of the ranked teams. UGA was his best and he was bad after the first 16 minutes.
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Thank you for your answer...appreciate your honesty
 
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GAVol said:
Yeah... thank God nobody else in this thread has a narrative lol.
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Not saying that. But refusing to accept another position or see it is the problem...numerous in the thread have said extremely positive things about JG when we have been critical. But flat to refusing to see the obvious is trolling which is what he is doing
 
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Hey, when one of you math people get a second, can you solve the whole train leaving Grand central station vs a train leaving Omaha station at 55 mph thing? Always wondered what the answer is on that. Thank you and Merry Christmas!!!!
 
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I’ve given JG his due. I’ve been open in saying he deserves his praise. I’ve also been quoted saying in a lot of ways he is the best option but not the most talented. That’s being fair and honest. Idk what about that shows “narrative” unless defending BM vs unfair criticism qualifies.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
There is really no point in engaging him anymore. He doesnt have the capacity to view anything other then what his narrative is...
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The problem with that is HE is usually the one that comes at me with the bs and my problem is I can’t help myself but to expose him..... repeatedly. Truth is we should all be happy to have this problem with an experienced senior and the same potential as a Bo Nix all in one locker room.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’ve given JG his due. I’ve been open in saying he deserves his praise. I’ve also been quoted saying in a lot of ways he is the best option but not the most talented. That’s being fair and honest. Idk what about that shows “narrative” unless defending BM vs unfair criticism qualifies.
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Problem is he isn't the most talented.

Recruiting ranking nor stats and production support that assertion.

JG was ten times better as a freshman than BM was this year.
 
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