Our QB room will be the best in the SEC

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LittleVol said:
Yeah he's similar with me Haha. But he's pretty consistent with everybody in that way actually. I stalk his posts a little, so I know.

In High school I played everything.
College was mostly LB. Same thing professionally.

I also coached high school as a DC in North Carolina for a while. Over 10 years ago.
I stopped the coaching because my passion was turning into a job. Didn't sit well with me at the time.

I then thought scouting was a good happy medium, but it was way uncertain in regards to "compensation". So i just decided to be selfish and be a fan for the rest of my life.
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Any interest in getting back into recruiting?
 
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Other_Guy said:
Are you just guessing this or have you looked at the depth chart of everyone else?
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Based on what other teams have returning mainly. Anybody losing their starter will not have a better QB room this spring. Fl, Tex A&M and Auburn are really the only 3 to debate unless Fromm stays at GA.
 
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utvols83 said:
I think he just had a bad start to the game...for whatever reason. It also looked like the receivers weren't getting much separation (Vandy DBs were grabbing jerseys and holding on) and the o-line was even allowing pressure on JG.
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We could have those discussions if he were in the right neighborhood with his throws. At least 6 of those first 7 misses were completely uncatchable.

I am not sure what pressure you are talking about. Part of the QB's job is to move around in the pocket. I don't remember him being touched very often through out that game. Vandy recorded no sacks.

The entire offense looked off.
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Sorry but that's just blame shifting. It may or may not be indicative of JG's "trend" but he was off. When given the opportunity to catch the ball... the receivers did. The RB's and OL did their job. JG was 6/17 and a lot of his passes were way, way off target. After improving his decisiveness in the previous games he avg'd 2.81 seconds to deliver the ball. That indicates both that the OL provided good protection and that he was holding the ball too long.

Thank goodness for Gray and the o-line showing up in the run game. After the 0/7 start, JG went 6/10 the rest of the way and looked closer to what we had seen the previous three games. I think by the time he settled in and played better, there just wasn't a good reason to throw the ball in the rain unless they absolutely had to.

I'm encouraged by his play and look forward to seeing if he continues to progress. I think being under Chaney for a second year will be big. Ultimately, I think he either takes a big step forward with his consistency and confidence over the Spring or gets passed by Maurer or Bailey. I don't see the coaches going with him if he continues to be inconsistent and they have two very talented and confident young guys wanting to play.
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I am still waiting to be won over. I need to see him be consistent in the way he played vs Mizzou.
 
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Rememberthe1990s said:
Peyton Manning, Brandon Stewart were both top 5 qbs if I recall.
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Peyton was definitely the more acclaimed prospect at the time. Vol fans were excited early for Stewart as he played very similar to Maurer back then but it didn't take long to realize that Manning was gonna be the guy. Stewart went on to play really well at Texas A&M I thought.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Based on what other teams have returning mainly. Anybody losing their starter will not have a better QB room this spring. Fl, Tex A&M and Auburn are really the only 3 to debate unless Fromm stays at GA.
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I saw elsewhere that Franks had entered the transfer portal. Do you know if that's true?
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Peyton was definitely the more acclaimed prospect at the time. Vol fans were excited early for Stewart as he played very similar to Maurer back then but it didn't take long to realize that Manning was gonna be the guy. Stewart went on to play really well at Texas A&M I thought.
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Stewart didn't play like Maurer either at UT or TAM. That's not a good comparison.
 
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LittleVol said:
Yeah he's similar with me Haha. But he's pretty consistent with everybody in that way actually. I stalk his posts a little, so I know.

In High school I played everything.
College was mostly LB. Same thing professionally.

I also coached high school as a DC in North Carolina for a while. Over 10 years ago.
I stopped the coaching because my passion was turning into a job. Didn't sit well with me at the time.

I then thought scouting was a good happy medium, but it was way uncertain in regards to "compensation". So i just decided to be selfish and be a fan for the rest of my life.
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As a former baseball scout I can relate with the compensation part
 
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sjt18 said:
Stewart didn't play like Maurer either at UT or TAM. That's not a good comparison.
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Stewart was fast, he was built like Maurer and he had a big strong arm, I think they are very similar but I'm usually wrong when it comes to you so not going to argue, this coward concedes the win. Congrats to you.

Edit * When BM puts on 20 lbs
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Peyton was definitely the more acclaimed prospect at the time. Vol fans were excited early for Stewart as he played very similar to Maurer back then but it didn't take long to realize that Manning was gonna be the guy. Stewart went on to play really well at Texas A&M I thought.
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I remember the Stewart love being because he played more like Heath Shuler.
 
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vader said:
I remember the Stewart love being because he played more like Heath Shuler.
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Very good comparison I just never thought he was close to the player big Heath was, that guy was great. I always thought our 3 best QBs of all-time were Manning, Shuler and Condredge! Those 3 were incredible, we've had some really good QB play over the years.
 
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sjt18 said:
We could have those discussions if he were in the right neighborhood with his throws. At least 6 of those first 7 misses were completely uncatchable.

I am not sure what pressure you are talking about. Part of the QB's job is to move around in the pocket. I don't remember him being touched very often through out that game. Vandy recorded no sacks.

Sorry but that's just blame shifting. It may or may not be indicative of JG's "trend" but he was off. When given the opportunity to catch the ball... the receivers did. The RB's and OL did their job. JG was 6/17 and a lot of his passes were way, way off target. After improving his decisiveness in the previous games he avg'd 2.81 seconds to deliver the ball. That indicates both that the OL provided good protection and that he was holding the ball too long.

I am still waiting to be won over. I need to see him be consistent in the way he played vs Mizzou.
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LOL...I simply share my opinion and in return you break down my opinion to analyze everything you disagree with. You're such a joy. It's my opinion and I stick by it. However, I am quite flattered that you thought so much of my post that you took all that time to respond in detail.

I said JG was off then seemed to settle down. You think he sucked from start to finish. There. That's the summary. Would've saved you some time...but whatever.
 
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Maybe some of you guys are better scouts than I am. What does everyone see in Mauer that's so exciting?

Granted, you can always tell with a freshmam but some people seem to act like he's burst into the scene like Trevor Lawrence.

47% comp 2TD and 5INT just looks like a typical freshman that may or may not develop into a good player.
 
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Best at what? Passing farts? I must look at the wrong stats. My expectations going in to the season aren’t very high but I’d sure like these guys to want to prove me wrong and exceed them.
 
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utvols83 said:
LOL...I simply share my opinion and in return you break down my opinion to analyze everything you disagree with. You're such a joy.
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Yeah. Sorry about that. I didn't read it all first. I answered it as I read. Probably should have just deleted it all. No offense intended.

It's my opinion and I stick by it. However, I am quite flattered that you thought so much of my post that you took all that time to respond in detail.
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I hope you are being sincere... because I do respect your opinion.

I said JG was off then seemed to settle down. You think he sucked from start to finish. There. That's the summary. Would've saved you some time...but whatever.
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Nah. He did better with the few opportunities given later in the game. Maybe if they'd needed to throw he would have ended better overall.

Frankly, after watching him for the last 3 years then being encouraged by the recent games... it just makes me really nervous that he looked that bad vs Vandy. Hopefully an aberration.... but I sincerely want him to be "the answer" for the next year. I feel pretty comfortable that out of the group left behind when he's done UT will be able to find a good QB.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Maybe some of you guys are better scouts than I am. What does everyone see in Mauer that's so exciting?

Granted, you can always tell with a freshmam but some people seem to act like he's burst into the scene like Trevor Lawrence.

47% comp 2TD and 5INT just looks like a typical freshman that may or may not develop into a good player.
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Well, how he looked as the starter when the O plan was developed around him.

I personally do not count trash time against him. His stat line looks better when you take UF and UTC out.

But the other thing was the confidence being decisive with his throws. He made some big plays. He made some big mistakes. But if a guy will play confident and aggressive... you can have hope that you can fix the mistakes.

My concerns are that for all the moxie, confidence, and accuracy he displayed early on... he played tentative and wasn't very accurate the last time we saw him vs UK. It is also possible that he is susceptible to concussions. Some people get them easier than others. Just the way they're made.
 
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sjt18 said:
Frankly, after watching him for the last 3 years then being encouraged by the recent games... it just makes me really nervous that he looked that bad vs Vandy. Hopefully an aberration.... but I sincerely want him to be "the answer" for the next year. I feel pretty comfortable that out of the group left behind when he's done UT will be able to find a good QB.
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I agree with this 100%. Sums up my thoughts.

He's got all the talent needed and seems to be putting things together...but you can't help but be nervous that he reverts back because it's such a mental/confidence thing with him. We'll walk a tightrope with him for a bit longer to see if he comes through or falters again. We'll be ok if he isn't the answer but I'm definitely pulling for the guy. Considering his play as of late, I figured he'd done enough to chalk up his start against Vandy to just being a rough start instead of signs of the old JG...but I definitely was nervous about his play there for a bit.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Maybe some of you guys are better scouts than I am. What does everyone see in Mauer that's so exciting?

Granted, you can always tell with a freshmam but some people seem to act like he's burst into the scene like Trevor Lawrence.

47% comp 2TD and 5INT just looks like a typical freshman that may or may not develop into a good player.
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I can tell from my own perspective but obviously can’t speak for everyone. I don’t see the “stats” as much as the overall body of work with a true freshman. The 2 tds and 5 ints is true, which would appear much worse if he were strictly a pocket passer. But he’s not and therefore you can’t talk about stats unless you include them all. He’s scored 4 times in very limited action. All the stats show me is exactly what I expected of any true freshman, he’s gotta get better at decision making which will happen naturally with time as he learns where the receivers will be on any given play as opposed to having to find them.

His skill set is rare and therefore harder to defend. Despite what the stats say he’s extremely accurate from inside or outside the pocket. So what do you do as a defense? A traditional pocket passer you just get pressure on him and that usually works. Force him to beat a blitz. A duel threat you try and contain in the pocket and force him to throw while having a spy on him in case he runs. With Maurer if you get pressure he runs and he’s fast enough to gauge you with chunk plays that way (MSU) (KY). If you try and contain him in the pocket and play coverage he has too much time and picks you apart (Bama) (UGA). The best any defense can do right now is confuse him. But the ability to do so will disappear with every year that passes if given the opportunity.
 
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sjt18 said:
Well, how he looked as the starter when the O plan was developed around him.

I personally do not count trash time against him. His stat line looks better when you take UF and UTC out.

But the other thing was the confidence being decisive with his throws. He made some big plays. He made some big mistakes. But if a guy will play confident and aggressive... you can have hope that you can fix the mistakes.

My concerns are that for all the moxie, confidence, and accuracy he displayed early on... he played tentative and wasn't very accurate the last time we saw him vs UK. It is also possible that he is susceptible to concussions. Some people get them easier than others. Just the way they're made.
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I really think he was just rusty vs UK at first and he was also told not to run. That’s only half the Maurer we know if he’s hesitant to run. So I’m sure he just appeared to be tentative because he was second guessing himself.
 
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