The Impeachment Thread

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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, it has! Russia hacked the DNC. Period.

Russia went far beyond a mere influence campaign. They not only hacked the DNC, they hacked voter registration systems. Damn, you are ignorant!
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If I didn't know better, I'd be afraid we weren't friends anymore.

lol

It's nice to see that, when facts are presented, you go from "Every intel agency claims that Russia meddled/hacked the election" to forum-screaming and insults.

I'll repeat. I did exactly as you requested, and I googled "election meddling intelligence agencies". Every result that I opened quoted the intel agencies--as of 2017-2018, saying that Russia ran an "influence campaign".

Here's a Time article from July 2018 referencing the various intelligence reports:

Here's Who Found That Russia Meddled in the 2016 Election

The document stated that Putin “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election” aiming to “denigrate Secretary Clinton” and showing a “clear preference for President-elect Trump.”
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As the inquiry has progressed since January 2017, the Committee has seen additional examples of Russia’s attempts to sow discord, undermine democratic institutions, and interfere in U.S. elections and those of our allies,” the report noted.
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“In 2015, Russia began engaging in a covert influence campaign aimed at the U.S. presidential election,” it said. “The Russian government, at the direction of President Vladimir Putin, sought to sow discord in American society and undermine our faith in the democratic process.”
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You really need to work on your temper. It's unbecoming.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
If I didn't know better, I'd be afraid we weren't friends anymore.

lol

It's nice to see that, when facts are presented, you go from "Every intel agency claims that Russia meddled/hacked the election" to forum-screaming and insults.

I'll repeat. I did exactly as you requested, and I googled "election meddling intelligence agencies". Every result that I opened quoted the intel agencies--as of 2017-2018, saying that Russia ran an "influence campaign".

Here's a Time article from July 2018 referencing the various intelligence reports:

Here's Who Found That Russia Meddled in the 2016 Election







You really need to work on your temper. It's unbecoming.
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They also hacked the DNC and hacked into voter registration databases.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They also hacked the DNC and hacked into voter databases.
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So, where we are is:

(0) You claimed every intel agency affirmed "election tampering" (meaning DNC hacking).

(1) Every intel agency claimed that Russia ran an "influencing" campaign.

(2) Mueller and the FBI claimed that Russia hacked the DNC server, yet has offered no evidence as such.

(Note: This is the same FBI that was run by never-trumpers, is on official text messages platting against him, and has now been shown to have faked evidence to frame a decorated military officer because he was associated with Trump.

It's the same FBI that allowed Hillary Clinton to dictate what they could look at when it came to investigating her server.

And the same Mueller that could only drool and stare off into space, mumbling incoherently, when given the opportunity to air his vast evidence before Congress and the electorate.)

(3) You really need work on how you conduct yourself when a discussion doesn't go the way you envisioned.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, where we are is:

(0) You claimed every intel agency affirmed "election tampering" (meaning DNC hacking).

(1) Every intel agency claimed that Russia ran an "influencing" campaign.

(2) Mueller and the FBI claimed that Russia hacked the DNC server, yet has offered no evidence as such.

(Note: This is the same FBI that was run by never-trumpers, is on official text messages platting against him, and has now been shown to have faked evidence to frame a decorated military officer because he was associated with Trump.

It's the same FBI that allowed Hillary Clinton to dictate what they could look at when it came to investigating her server.

And the same Mueller that could only drool and stare off into space, mumbling incoherently, when given the opportunity to air his vast evidence before Congress and the electorate.)

(3) You really need work on how you conduct yourself when a discussion doesn't go the way you envisioned.
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There is ample evidence that Russia did hack both the DNC and into voter database registration systems. It wasn't just alleged by Mueller... but by our intelligence community. This discussion is going exactly how I envisioned. I have had this discussion a dozen times or so on here... I have posted the proof from various sources and there is always some Trump supporter who would rather not believe that it was Russia... because that is what Trump wants you to believe. It's disgusting.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
We will see what happens... but the polls are hardly in a tailspin. That headline is hyperbole from Townhall. 538 shows they are about even.
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No joke, this is the first sentence from the "news article":

"A few caveats before we get to the unmistakable polling trend against impeachment: First, many of the data points highlighted below were gathered before last week's testimony, so public sentiment could shift back in a pro-impeachment direction once the impact of testimony from the last few witnesses -- Amb. Gordon Sondland in particular -- gets baked into the numbers."
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, where we are is:

(0) You claimed every intel agency affirmed "election tampering" (meaning DNC hacking).

(1) Every intel agency claimed that Russia ran an "influencing" campaign.

(2) Mueller and the FBI claimed that Russia hacked the DNC server, yet has offered no evidence as such.

(Note: This is the same FBI that was run by never-trumpers, is on official text messages platting against him, and has now been shown to have faked evidence to frame a decorated military officer because he was associated with Trump.

It's the same FBI that allowed Hillary Clinton to dictate what they could look at when it came to investigating her server.

And the same Mueller that could only drool and stare off into space, mumbling incoherently, when given the opportunity to air his vast evidence before Congress and the electorate.)

(3) You really need work on how you conduct yourself when a discussion doesn't go the way you envisioned.
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Only people that say they know for sure are the DNC and Crowdstrike. All they had to do was turn the servers over to the FBI, why did the never turn them over?
 
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volfanjustin said:
Only people that say they know for sure are the DNC and Crowdstrike. All they had to do was turn the servers over to the FBI, why did the never turn them over?
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And Assange, who has blatantly said repeatedly that it wasn't Russia. BB has no evidence. He has claims from Mueller and a disgraced three letter agency that's under federal investigation. When there was opportunity to give actual "evidence" Mueller petitioned the court not to make him produce any.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
And Assange, who has blatantly said repeatedly that it wasn't Russia. BB has no evidence. He has claims from Mueller and a disgraced three letter agency that's under federal investigation. When there was opportunity to give actual "evidence" Mueller petitioned the court not to make him produce any.
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They just can’t handle the most qualified person to ever run, losing. It’s the Russians, the electoral college is outdated, etc.....
 
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zeppelin128 said:
No joke, this is the first sentence from the "news article":

"A few caveats before we get to the unmistakable polling trend against impeachment: First, many of the data points highlighted below were gathered before last week's testimony, so public sentiment could shift back in a pro-impeachment direction once the impact of testimony from the last few witnesses -- Amb. Gordon Sondland in particular -- gets baked into the numbers."
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Yes, whoever wrote the headline, clearly had an agenda against impeachment. I think Fiona Hill's testimony was more compelling than Sondland's.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
And Assange, who has blatantly said repeatedly that it wasn't Russia. BB has no evidence. He has claims from Mueller and a disgraced three letter agency that's under federal investigation. When there was opportunity to give actual "evidence" Mueller petitioned the court not to make him produce any.
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Of course that it was Assange is going to say. There is plenty of evidence which has been provided online by our intelligence community that Russia did hack both the DNC and voter registration database systems. The entire intelligence apparatus from the USA has concluded this as well as the Senate Intel Committee. This is what I was talking about when I said that the Republican Party has become the party of Russian sympathizers and conspiracy theorists.
 
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