The Impeachment Thread

[Velo Vol]

Me me me.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Of straight up bribery... I don't think so. Of playing the game... Probably. Of something impeachable... No.

When they pivoted from the foreign aid argument to claiming that not taking a meeting was bribery, it became ludicrous.

It was bribery.

 

[volfanjustin]

No he didn’t.

Gordon Sondland said he presumed there was a quid pro quo.

It was a figment of his imagination.

They stopped listening after pencil neck schiff ran to the cnn cameras. They never heard the part where he said he presumed

 

[BowlBrother85]

Me me me.

That is hilarious

 

[GAVol]

It was bribery.

My problem with that is that the point of foreign aid is pretty much bribery in a loose sense.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It was bribery.

lol

 

[GAVol]

Me me me.

AlthoughI think that’s somewhat revealing..... that’s classic Trump.

 

[Velo Vol]

Basically.

 

[MontyPython]

Is there really any dispute over what was said in that call?

IIRC Holmes said Sondland referred to Biden specifically, while Sondland says no recollection.

 

[BowlBrother85]

My problem with that is that the point of foreign aid is pretty much bribery in a loose sense.

What Trump did was different because the conditions he place on the aid were only of benefit to him. He wanted to see a political opponent smeared. That would have been of no political benefit to the country... just to Trump.

 

[luthervol]

I disagree.
My opinion isn't lower.

Then you must have had a very low opinion of him to begin with. Even then, no one could have seen the complete unprofessional and amateurish way he conducts foreign policy.
What do you guys think about his use of Giuliani?

 

[37L1]

Then you must have had a very low opinion of him to begin with. Even then, no one could have seen the complete unprofessional and amateurish way deals with foreign policy.
What do you guys think about his use of Giuliani?

Sure we could have, ever watch The Apprentice? The guy doesn't have much class, never did, never pretended to have any. What anyone does in politics doesn't surprise me any more. There is a long and sordid history of what politicians do to get where they are and to stay where they are. We only know about the tip of the ice berg.

 

[GVF]

Huh? Neither one of the Bidens are obviously in the Senate. What kind of record are you talking about?

Uh, wasn't referring to either Biden.

 

[GVF]

How are you defining moral relativism?

How are you doing it? Your opinion, my opinion, or just by legally measurable bullet lists?

 

[NorthDallas40]

AlthoughI think that’s somewhat revealing..... that’s classic Trump.

It is revealing. It’s SOP to swap the pictures out. It has nothing to do with the individual and everything to do with respect the office. Her behavior was obviously noted by her peers or Trump wouldn’t have the info to tweet about. Yeah it’s classic Trump that he would screech, but he shouldn’t have even had the info because it never should have happened.

 

[luthervol]

My problem with that is that the point of foreign aid is pretty much bribery in a loose sense.

It's 100% about what is expected in return.
You can give a kid $20 to cut your grass but not $20 to cut your grass naked.

If you guys are actually as gullible as you're acting, it explains a lot.

 

[luthervol]

Sure we could have, ever watch The Apprentice? The guy doesn't have much class, never did, never pretended to have any. What anyone does in politics doesn't surprise me any more. There is a long and sordid history of what politicians do to get where they are and to stay where they are. We only know about the tip of the ice berg.

So normalize Trump and lower the bar.
Brilliant. But what else does a Trumper have at their disposal?

 

[37L1]

So normalize Trump and lower the bar.
Brilliant. But what else does a Trumper have at their disposal?

He's not normal.

But then, neither are you.

 

[luthervol]

He's not normal.

But then, neither are you.

In many ways I'm the very definition of normal, in others I'm about as far away as you can get.
There's more than one direction away from the norm.

 

[tvolsfan]

The republican defense seems to be that a lot of people, including multiple trump appointees and republicans, are lying for no reason, while the pathological liar, who has every reason to lie in this scenario, is telling the truth.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Reference to psyching your mind. Just my own flashback, you can’t google that

How do you "psych someone's mind"? How do I know if someone is attempting that? Does it happen when someone makes stupid fashion references in a political forum?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Me me me.

no one cares.

 

[tvolsfan]

no one cares.

Apparently Trump does.

 

[GAVol]

It's 100% about what is expected in return.
You can give a kid $20 to cut your grass but not $20 to cut your grass naked.

If you guys are actually as gullible as you're acting, it explains a lot.

Lol... I don't think that was the best example.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

In many ways I'm the very definition of normal, in others I'm about as far away as you can get.
There's more than one direction away from the norm.

No... you are not normal. You aren't rational either. You THINK you are.. but you aren't. You are the epitome of a sore loser