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butchna said:
First championship under Saban (2009), they beat Virginia Tech, who was a regular national power at the time, to start the season. In 2011 they played Penn State, 2012...Michigan, 2015 Wisconsin and 2017 Florida State. All heavy hitters when they were scheduled and that doesn’t include the USC’s of the world when they finished just short. Yeah, they’re Bama and we’re not, but if you can’t compete with Oklahoma, beating UTC isn’t exactly advancing your program on the way to the Cheez-It Bowl.
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Oh... He said he wanted to play someone on AL's level every week because that is more fun. I responded saying that would not even work for AL.
 
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Devo182 said:
1) Exactly, none of it is illegal. Only against NCAA bylaws...that has nothing to do with laws.

2) Even within NCAA rules, I don't know that paying a recruit is against NCAA bylaws for the payer. Wth is the NCAA going to do against a private individual anyway??? They have no authority in public. Afaik it only makes a SA ineligible. It is against rules to take the payment.
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I think the language is "accepts or agrees to accept" and it applies to SA families, also.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I suppose my question would be: what about amateurism makes college football a good product?
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Playing for pride as opposed to money. Playing for the potential to make money as opposed to making it. When you already have money maybe you're not as motivated as the alternative. All I know is I hardly ever watch pro sports and if college becomes more pro, I don't think it will have the same magic. Jmo
 
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I think people are mistaking player's getting paid for their likeness with recruiting benefits. It will still be against the rules to pay recruits so I doubt much changes with bag men paying players.

The recruiting impact will come from schools promising situations to profit from their likeness. This isn't going make anything bout recruiting more transparent....if anything it creates new ways for programs to break the rules.
 
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Pruitt: Jennings capable of playing QB 'all the time' for Vols

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Jennings was rated a four-star prospect and the No. 89 overall player in the 2015 recruiting class by 247Sports. He was ranked No. 5 among dual-threat quarterback prospects in the class behind Jarrett Stidham (Baylor then Auburn), Kyler Murray (Texas A&M then Oklahoma then the No. 1 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft), Brandon Wimbush (Notre Dame then UCF) and Travis Jonsen (Oregon then Montana State). Jennings was ranked higher than Sam Darnold (No. 6), Joe Burrow (No. 7), Lamar Jackson (No. 11) and Kelly Bryant (No. 14).
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
I will be shocked if he isn’t drafted in first 3 rounds. Forget the measurables...the size of his heart is immeasurable. Losing isn’t in his vocabulary. His attitude would be infectious for a NFL roster. A GM would be crazy to not draft him in the first half of the draft.
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I agree with you but have you seen the way most of these GMs draft?? All about the underwear Olympics.
 
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Rocky_Top_Vol13 said:
No, it means players like To'oto'o will never leave Cali and go to schools like UCLA or USC so they can sell their merch to 3X the amount of people. Bad for the sport....
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It won't take long for the SEC schools and other big time programs to figure out ways to market their programs to athletes in a way that will get them the endorsements and income.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Playing for pride as opposed to money. Playing for the potential to make money as opposed to making it. When you already have money maybe you're not as motivated as the alternative. All I know is I hardly ever watch pro sports and if college becomes more pro, I don't think it will have the same magic. Jmo
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Interesting.

To each his own, but I don’t think college football players are playing for pride. On our level I believe they mostly play for financial interests - whether that be the $50,000 wire transfer that got them to Tennessee or the hope they have of making more money at the professional level. Inevitably “pride” in a school will be established but that isn’t guaranteed and normally that pride is built in the relationships on the team - not so much about the school itself.

I don’t know - I don’t watch the NFL much either, but I can acknowledge it is a far superior on-field product.

I really like The Office. Love it. I’ve watched the entire series multiple times. I don’t like it any less because as the seasons progressed it’s clear the actors made more money. That would be weird.

What this discussion almost feels like to me is we (fans) love this thing (University of Tennessee athletics) so much, and we give so much of our time, money, energy to it with very little in return, that we want the players and athletes to love it that much too - and as a result people think if the athletes are paid that they won’t love their university for the right reasons.
 
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JCP201 said:
Pruitt: Jennings capable of playing QB 'all the time' for Vols

Did not know this:

Jennings was rated a four-star prospect and the No. 89 overall player in the 2015 recruiting class by 247Sports. He was ranked No. 5 among dual-threat quarterback prospects in the class behind Jarrett Stidham (Baylor then Auburn), Kyler Murray (Texas A&M then Oklahoma then the No. 1 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft), Brandon Wimbush (Notre Dame then UCF) and Travis Jonsen (Oregon then Montana State). Jennings was ranked higher than Sam Darnold (No. 6), Joe Burrow (No. 7), Lamar Jackson (No. 11) and Kelly Bryant (No. 14).
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That's nice...but no way
 
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drvenner said:
I will be one of those that disagree. A college scholarship does have great value. But, with the amount of money generated it is still not nearly enough.
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I don't follow that logic. If the college scholarship has great value but it's not enough because money is generated, why even go if you are playing a sport that doesn't generate money? And, if it had enough value yesterday (enough for the kid to go and play) for the athlete playing that sport that doesn't generate money, then why would it change today because of the ruling?

I think it's just a money grab simply because there is money there. If football didn't generate enough money the kids wouldn't care. The system has been set up and revenue generated by the schools, not the current players. If they want to make money to play football from age 18-21 why don't they go set up their own league and charge admission and pay themselves? Ohhhh....because that isn't that easy is it?! No, so they want to grab someone else's money. I always have a hard time with someone trying to get in on something like that.

Look, I'm not necessarily against it in some fashion. But they wanted to get paid....so cost of attendance gets passed. That wasn't enough...not withstanding the fact that not all college athletes are getting the cost of attendance. Sooo, now they want more. When they get this, they will want more even still. It never ends and I think it will water down/ruin the college game in the future.

Right now we have VFL's that love to come back and be around the program. Why is that? They didn't get paid. No, they shared in a common goal/experience for 3 or 4 years that is much more valuable to them (by their actions) than any money they made after college. If you pay them, then I think the college experience gets diminished to "who is paying the most/where can I make the most". Then, that loyalty that you engender under the current system becomes less and the money issue becomes the focus.

Just my thoughts on it all.
 
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drvenner said:
You really should of thought this one out before posting. It could of caused a lot of problems and I would of been better off not responding. Oh well.
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