Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
SMH...not gonna do it. This sucks and I and others have already shown why. You just don't wanna hear it. And don't give me that crap about how much you care about how these poor pitiful slaves that are forced to play a game for a measly scholarship worth a fortune all by itself, much less the high quality training they get to further their professional aspirations...whoops...I'm sorry I forgot...now this IS the professional aspiration for what 95%+ of college athletes..
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Fair enough good man. I'll leave it be. Guess we won't even see the final rules for over a year and it is what it is anyway, for better or worse. Don't care to argue with ya bud...about to rewatch our 5 finger slap of the Muscocks.
 
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Devo182 said:
Maybe. The board asked the divisions to come up with transparent and enforceable rules. We will see.

I think everyone will continue to get paid as usual, just more "above the table". I think states and feds just want to get their taxes. That is the ONLY ultimate change here.

A portion will be recognized, reported, and taxed. The rest will continue underground. Just like the drug market...no reason to bring it into the light unless investigated or crazy amounts need to be laundered. These kids won't make enough to need laundry services.
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I'm not gonna bother fighting it so I'm not here trying to convince anyone else to worry.

Wts, you keep saying "that's the only change" and you have no more idea than anyone else, what's going to happen.

And the 1 thing I do agree with them on - you're allowing paper trails to legitimize the entire process. Fudging numbers is easier than secret meetings. There is no worry of being seen with these kids and no worry of them flashing money.

Lots of businessmen are already less than honest on taxes. Imo, it'll encourage those who are experienced with "paperwork mishaps" but are too scared for straight up bag drops and hidden handshakes.
I absolutely believe some will benefit way more than others. Where I agree with you is that's going to happen regardless. But this easily could intensify.

No choice but to wait and see and how much.
 
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Devo182 said:
Haha nah not about the players (as long as payments are considered gifts). More about the bagmen. I was replying to Bruin and saying within the current system people avoid taxes from the payer's side. The newer system would likely bring some of this money to the surface and taxed. Similar to any black market coming to the surface.
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And it's a good thing for the players to have to pay taxes? Still not following what you are saying is the advantage here with taxes.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
What?
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First championship under Saban (2009), they beat Virginia Tech, who was a regular national power at the time, to start the season. In 2011 they played Penn State, 2012...Michigan, 2015 Wisconsin and 2017 Florida State. All heavy hitters when they were scheduled and that doesn’t include the USC’s of the world when they finished just short. Yeah, they’re Bama and we’re not, but if you can’t compete with Oklahoma, beating UTC isn’t exactly advancing your program on the way to the Cheez-It Bowl.
 
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Devo182 said:
Top-20??

Uhh he's ranked 81st of QBs with 100+ dropbacks...

But if you dismiss them, then qbr?

Sawyer Smith has a 97 qbr, while the next worst in the SEC is 112. Not even close. And if Stoops played an injured QB, even worse.
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Sorry he was 21.
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I don’t think sawyer smith is good but i think he can be serviceable. I think even tho schematically we match up better with kentucky, it has a chance to be a weird scary game. Will be raining and freezing cold, they know they can’t pressure us really so they will just sit back in cover 4 the whole game and make us be patient with run and underneath. I don’t think they will be as aggressive as SC and leave us with many big play opps through the air.
 
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butchna said:
First championship under Saban (2009), they beat Virginia Tech, who was a regular national power at the time, to start the season. In 2011 they played Penn State, 2012...Michigan, 2015 Wisconsin and 2017 Florida State. All heavy hitters when they were scheduled and that doesn’t include the USC’s of the world when they finished just short. Yeah, they’re Bama and we’re not, but if you can’t compete with Oklahoma, beating UTC isn’t exactly advancing your program on the way to the Cheez-It Bowl.
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Unnecessary shot at Cheez-its imo
 
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BearCat204 said:
We have idiots saying we should do the same thing with Butch. Some have never heard the phrase "pick your battles".
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My idea for Butch would be to bring him back as the spokesperson for Champions of Life moonshine. Send him up on Rocky Top for a photoshoot next to the still...as the song says, the rest will take care of itself. 🤠😎😡☠️🍾
 
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Dudley Smith said:
That’s what I’m trying to figure out. There probably isn’t any short term benefit to us for either team winning because at this point one or the other is going to the SECCG this year. I’m trying to think how we benefit long term.



I thought of this myself, but UGA would still go to Atlanta in this situation. No other team in the East will finish with two or less losses.

My thinking is that UF has fairly recently won the East and getting drilled in the title game didn’t help McElwain much. Since Kirby’s 2nd year at UGA, they have created this image of being the next Bama-level dynasty and their recruiting has taken off accordingly. It was never real bad under Richt, but Smart definitely kicked it up to another level in part on this perception that they were The Next Big Thing. I am pretty sure their fan base expected to have won a Natty by now. If they lose and don’t even win the East this year, that’s a clear three year decline from SEC Winner/National Championship runner up, to SEC East Winner only, to not even winning the division. That may not cause many in this year’s recruiting class to jump ship, but the cracks will start to show. The fan base will start questioning whether Kirby really the guy, and it will start to have an effect going forward.

We target so many more players in Georgia than we do in Florida, I think it is most in our interest for UGA to take a step back to the pack, even if it means Florida steps up this year.
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Could the final be gators 5 and uga 2 after a 3 overtime game that makes both teams look totally inept? I can live with that. Still refuse to actually root for either team. Just want it to be a miserable battle of attrition.
 
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Looking at Georgia's schedule, it's possible for them to lose 3 more SEC games. They have Florida, Mizz, Auburn and A&M left. They would have to beat Florida though for us to have a chance and lose to everyone else. Florida only has Vandy and Mizz after the Georgia game. We would have to beat Mizz and finish in a tie with them.

Its virtually impossible. The best possible result would probably be finishing 2nd.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
It will be worse than it is currently. How can you not see this? It is like you are refusing to see the impossibly slippery slope this is going to be. There is no salary cap, no enforcable regulations, and no way to monitor the massive and infinite flows, and no way to enforce anything if it were possible to legitimately monitor it. This is a freakin free for all where the chosen cash cows will literally destroy legitimate competition.
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Stop being a Hater🦉...
 
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