Reaction to Trump at the WS game

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I was on the road a lot and listened to significant commentary on XM, plus randoms calling in to the shows to say their piece.

As much as I loathe Trump, and as much as it might in a sense be poetic justice and satisfying to hear "lock him up!" chants thrown at the guy that at a minimum took delight himself in his supporters chanting "lock her up!", I am against it. And it has nothing to do with the venue or the event -- as some have relied upon to distinguish it.

Instead, what makes Trump so awful to me is that he rode the resentment of people to victory. He won because his supporters loved the fact that he needled and antagonized the people they don't like. It was never about policy with Trump (except maybe for the wall). It was the theater of him just relentlessly mocking and deriding the left that won it for him.

I don't want to win that way. Its poisonous, because it becomes a battle of just aggravation and resentment, during times when we should be voting for someone, not against someone else. That may simply have been the toxic stew of 2016, for a lot of reasons. But moving forward, the way out of this mess is earnest discussion of policy, not seeing who can pizz off the other side the most.

So, I do not support "lock him up chants" anymore than I supported "lock her up" chants.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I was on the road a lot and listened to significant commentary on XM, plus randoms calling in to the shows to say their piece.

As much as I loathe Trump, and as much as it might in a sense be poetic justice and satisfying to hear "lock him up!" chants thrown at the guy that at a minimum took delight himself in his supporters chanting "lock her up!", I am against it. And it has nothing to do with the venue or the event -- as some have relied upon to distinguish it.

Instead, what makes Trump so awful to me is that he rode the resentment of people to victory. He won because his supporters loved the fact that he needled and antagonized the people they don't like. It was never about policy with Trump (except maybe for the wall). It was the theater of him just relentlessly mocking and deriding the left that won it for him.

I don't want to win that way. Its poisonous, because it becomes a battle of just aggravation and resentment, during times when we should be voting for someone, not against someone else. That may simply have been the toxic stew of 2016, for a lot of reasons. But moving forward, the way out of this mess is earnest discussion of policy, not seeing who can pizz off the other side the most.

So, I do not support "lock him up chants" anymore than I supported "lock her up" chants.
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Good to know, it was a worry of mine.
 
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Come on guys... he is softening a little... give him a break on this one... Maybe we are witnessing him growing up before our very eyes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I was on the road a lot and listened to significant commentary on XM, plus randoms calling in to the shows to say their piece.

As much as I loathe Trump, and as much as it might in a sense be poetic justice and satisfying to hear "lock him up!" chants thrown at the guy that at a minimum took delight himself in his supporters chanting "lock her up!", I am against it. And it has nothing to do with the venue or the event -- as some have relied upon to distinguish it.

Instead, what makes Trump so awful to me is that he rode the resentment of people to victory. He won because his supporters loved the fact that he needled and antagonized the people they don't like. It was never about policy with Trump (except maybe for the wall). It was the theater of him just relentlessly mocking and deriding the left that won it for him.

I don't want to win that way. Its poisonous, because it becomes a battle of just aggravation and resentment, during times when we should be voting for someone, not against someone else. That may simply have been the toxic stew of 2016, for a lot of reasons. But moving forward, the way out of this mess is earnest discussion of policy, not seeing who can pizz off the other side the most.

So, I do not support "lock him up chants" anymore than I supported "lock her up" chants.
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Provide someone to vote for, and not against, and you might see some of us right leaning middlings move over. Enter Tulsi, only they know she'd be a true challenge of substance to their chosen one, so she'll get rode out.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I was on the road a lot and listened to significant commentary on XM, plus randoms calling in to the shows to say their piece.

As much as I loathe Trump, and as much as it might in a sense be poetic justice and satisfying to hear "lock him up!" chants thrown at the guy that at a minimum took delight himself in his supporters chanting "lock her up!", I am against it. And it has nothing to do with the venue or the event -- as some have relied upon to distinguish it.

Instead, what makes Trump so awful to me is that he rode the resentment of people to victory. He won because his supporters loved the fact that he needled and antagonized the people they don't like. It was never about policy with Trump (except maybe for the wall). It was the theater of him just relentlessly mocking and deriding the left that won it for him.

I don't want to win that way. Its poisonous, because it becomes a battle of just aggravation and resentment, during times when we should be voting for someone, not against someone else. That may simply have been the toxic stew of 2016, for a lot of reasons. But moving forward, the way out of this mess is earnest discussion of policy, not seeing who can pizz off the other side the most.

So, I do not support "lock him up chants" anymore than I supported "lock her up" chants.
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The fans are part of the Deep state no doubt. Nationals = Deep State.
 
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This isn’t a staged rally with MAGAs, these are normal, every day Americans booing. The look on the faces of he and FLOTUS the moment the boos come out were telling. He being a narcissist this is going to eat him alive on the inside. This will likely be the last uncontrolled environment he will attend from now until next November and likely ever again. This is going to stick with him.
 
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PeaceCorpsVol said:
This isn’t a staged rally with MAGAs, these are normal, every day Americans booing. The look on the faces of he and FLOTUS the moment the boos come out were telling. He being a narcissist this is going to eat him alive on the inside. This will likely be the last uncontrolled environment he will attend from now until next November and likely ever again. This is going to stick with him.
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It was Washington, so no it was not "normal, everyday people".
 
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PeaceCorpsVol said:
This isn’t a staged rally with MAGAs, these are normal, every day Americans booing. The look on the faces of he and FLOTUS the moment the boos come out were telling. He being a narcissist this is going to eat him alive on the inside. This will likely be the last uncontrolled environment he will attend from now until next November and likely ever again. This is going to stick with him.
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Yep Washington DC is just your every day Americans. LOL!
 
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PeaceCorpsVol said:
This isn’t a staged rally with MAGAs, these are normal, every day Americans booing. The look on the faces of he and FLOTUS the moment the boos come out were telling. He being a narcissist this is going to eat him alive on the inside. This will likely be the last uncontrolled environment he will attend from now until next November and likely ever again. This is going to stick with him.
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lol
 
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hog88 said:
It was Washington, so no it was not "normal, everyday people".
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These aren’t bureaucrats, well maybe sprinkled in there but 98% of them are working people enjoying a game. This is as close as you will find him mingling with normal America outside of a MAGA rally and you see what happened.
 
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So how much does it cost a "normal" working person to attend the world series? You know the one where just normal God fearing working men and women attend, not the one where the rich elites attend.
 
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VolStrom said:
So how much does it cost a "normal" working person to attend the world series? You know the one where just normal God fearing working men and women attend, not the one where the rich elites attend.
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Right? You would think that people in that tax bracket wouldn’t boo. Even rich people hate him evidently.
 
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PeaceCorpsVol said:
These aren’t bureaucrats, well maybe sprinkled in there but 98% of them are working people enjoying a game. This is as close as you will find him mingling with normal America outside of a MAGA rally and you see what happened.
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I think you need to look at how many residents of DC and the 8th congressional district are government employees. I'm not even talking about the surrounding counties in MD, you'll be shocked.
 
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