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HankHill said:
I think that’s partially true. You don’t really need your head coach to be the one doing the developing. Butch replaced several quality assistants with clowns. I think our usage rates. we’re fine for the most part. Obviously
Kamara should’ve been used more specifically as a pass catcher. But other than that i can’t think of anyone we just didn’t use lol
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Ya, Butch = Butch's staff, not him personally. I doubt many HC are the primary developers of players. How they get used is moreso on the HC. Justin Coleman for instance.
 
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jakez4ut said:
our best guys have all gone on to do bigger/better things.

chris low, wojo, ryan mcgee (not sure why the general consensus is on RM, but i like the guy....), our guy at Outkick...charles davis....

kinda weird there's not more former players involved in the local media. i don't dislike ainge, but i take him with a grain of salt...like him most for the actual football talk, less on the peripheral, big picture stuff. swain, pretty much the exact opposite...probalby why i listen to them both.

anyway...im not looking for water carriers in the media...but it'd sure be nice if we had guys that at least gave a crap. unlike hyams, adams, ubben etc..........
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I'd settle for someone willing to talk about the positive and the negative, rather than focusing on the negative. Most fans are acutely aware of the negative any way. But I think a big reason for the attitude is most have no real ins with the AD, and it pisses them off.
 
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"Our first wildcat play Saturday"
3rd and 2---JJ moves to QB

JJ moves around calling the play to the left and right side of our OLine making sure the SC defense sees he is in for the wildcat

Vols get into a tight formation showing a run

Center snaps the ball---WR hightails it down center field and JJ lays it out for the long gainer or TD

It's a one shot play---if receiver is not open run it or throw the ball away...
 
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Weezer said:
I'd settle for someone willing to talk about the positive and the negative, rather than focusing on the negative. Most fans are acutely aware of the negative any way. But I think a big reason for the attitude is most have no real ins with the AD, and it pisses them off.
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probably, but we don't care about that. just report the freaking news....there are people over there at KNS that look like they're literally going after the program.....

you can give a crap about the program and still report postiive or negative stuff....as long as it's truth ful, and agenda free.
 
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jakez4ut said:
our best guys have all gone on to do bigger/better things.

chris low, wojo, ryan mcgee (not sure why the general consensus is on RM, but i like the guy....), our guy at Outkick...charles davis....

kinda weird there's not more former players involved in the local media. i don't dislike ainge, but i take him with a grain of salt...like him most for the actual football talk, less on the peripheral, big picture stuff. swain, pretty much the exact opposite...probalby why i listen to them both.

anyway...im not looking for water carriers in the media...but it'd sure be nice if we had guys that at least gave a crap. unlike hyams, adams, ubben etc..........
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But seriously, most college towns set the bar with a good mix of fair/knowledgeable and homers. But not us, we shoot for the opposite.

I always get friends from elsewhere to listen and they're surprised by the vitriol or just lack of knowledge. Shame when so many on this board can break down games or plays better than someone making a living.
 
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jwilliams said:
Yep. That's why I found it odd... he never misses a chance to dump on TN. I don't recall him ever picking the vols to win as a dog.
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there's an agenda. as usual. if we win, i'm sure he'll be all like.........
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I am serious...HOW..can you not feel this way? He is awful, no beyond awful..it is not too much. I am not talking about him as a person, but I literally hate the sight of him on the field. It sucks every shred of hope. He shocked me in the MSU game and I thought he might finally be worth something, and then he pulls that awful awful awful betrayal of trust last Saturday..not to mention looking like a total spaz doing it..I can not forget that.
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Yes, but redemption can happen (the Hound? Theon?). Meanwhile, this young man is still wearing our orange and competing for us.
 
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chargervol said:
But seriously, most college towns set the bar with a good mix of fair/knowledgeable and homers. But not us, we shoot for the opposite.

I always get friends from elsewhere to listen and they're surprised by the vitriol or just lack of knowledge. Shame when so many on this board can break down games or plays better than someone making a living.
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yep. i do a lot of travel around the caroilnas, atlanta, east tennessee and sometimes, ugh, alabama and florida.

and aside from the florida media (they seem to hate UF as much as our guys hate UT lol) UGA, Bama, Auburn, Clemson, South Carolina.....it's night and day different what those that cover those schools do vs. what ours does.
 
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jakez4ut said:
our best guys have all gone on to do bigger/better things.

chris low, wojo, ryan mcgee (not sure why the general consensus is on RM, but i like the guy....), our guy at Outkick...charles davis....

kinda weird there's not more former players involved in the local media. i don't dislike ainge, but i take him with a grain of salt...like him most for the actual football talk, less on the peripheral, big picture stuff. swain, pretty much the exact opposite...probalby why i listen to them both.

anyway...im not looking for water carriers in the media...but it'd sure be nice if we had guys that at least gave a crap. unlike hyams, adams, ubben etc..........
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Our media guys are some of the least homerish in media. You'd never know Low and GeneW went to UT, McGee and Maddi Shipman bend over backward to be impartial, and Finebaum is the anti-alum. Davis and Candace Parker are the best we have. Candace will be really good when she turns to broadcasting full-time.
 
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Weezer said:
Sounds like a set up so he can be ultra negative if we lose. I don't trust Adams.
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Haha, Seen posters on this board do the same. Pick TN in a close game that the opponent should win but add a little caveat like "if coach ___ doesn't screw it up".
Then, a win is expected and not to be celebrated
And a loss is "I think we can all agree he's not the guy"😂
 
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HankHill said:
He’s had three 10 win seasons in 4 years. Any program who isn’t happy with 10 win seasons needs to take a look in the mirror. It’s also silly to think a guy who coached in a super bowl can’t take that next step especially considering Ohio state lost maybe the 2nd best CFB coach in modern era.
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We’ll see how he does. To be one of the highest paid coaches in the game I would think his record vs top ten would be better. And no conference championship. We’ll see how he finishes this year.
 
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jave36 said:
Clearly he had the talent, or he wouldn't be playing on Sundays. Whether or not he got discovered by other p5 schools is irrelevant to the point.
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Moseley came in as a very lean, light ex- Qb, albeit fast and athletic. It was a gradual process for us to muscle him up, and allow him OJT as a DB. Glad he is doing well.
 
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LA Vol said:
Our media guys are some of the least homerish in media. You'd never know Low and GeneW went to UT, McGee and Maddi Shipman bend over backward to be impartial, and Finebaum is the anti-alum. Davis and Candace Parker are the best we have. Candace will be really good when she turns to broadcasting full-time.
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lol, forgot about finebaum.....

but you're right, and i don't necessarily blame them for trying to be impartial given what they're doing nationally.

having said that i've seen Parker visibly root for TN in the tourney, and she's not been shy about aligning herslef with Rocky Top at all. DAvis, he's not overt with it, but when has the opportunity, he'll let you know where he's from.......

i've seen Gene do it as well. well timed as you would expect, but he's not in an analyst role where he's given some rope to expound and given anecdotes from past experiences...when asked, he will. past that, he's on the straight and narrow.

same with mcgee and shipman...i've seen them both reference their UT background, in the right context.

finebaum...well, he only does it when it suits HIM....which is fine. that's his schtick.....

i wish they'd all show up to work one day wearing orange checkerboard overalls on, with UT bucket hats on, with Rocky Top blaring in the background while on a boat participating in the Vol Navy.
but that's just me.
 
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