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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Why don't you actually watch some film, then check his physical, and on dield numbers and get back with me..screw the services.
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Yea never know about completion levels and i sure as hell donā€™t trust those ā€œverified 40sā€
after having JG running a 4.65. Which is basically what Larry Fitzgerald ran šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
 
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WriterVol said:
We have websites that list, collate, and analyze every piece of sports data available. How has no one created one for referees? A ref's body of work is explicitly available for public consumption.

You'd need to analyze them in an obviously transparent way. Maybe have a small committee of people that aren't fans of the teams their watching. You could even start it up just doing major games or games that get a lot of complaints to get the ball rolling. If successful, you could grow it from there.
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There used to be one for all NCAA D1 basketball officials. I tried to look it up last year and couldn't find it. It had pictures of every official, and each game they did. It included total fouls called and any technicals called. It should be very easy to do for football as well.
 
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butchna said:
He can make all the throws and put something extra on em Unrealistic to expect him to be polished in his sparse game action. He was out on the field against an amped up Bama defense fresh off a defensive touchdown and we expect him to carve em up like a turkey. Needs some confidence and decisiveness but we donā€™t KNOW thatā€™s heā€™s minus capability.
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I say send him out there and see what he can do.

But at the START of the game. Not after 3 or 4 series and JG has sucked the life out of the place.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I say send him out there and see what he can do.

But at the START of the game. Not after 3 or 4 series and JG has sucked the life out of the place.
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Donā€™t disagree. But I could see the wisdom in bringing him if JG follows his usual course when starting this season. Lot of pressure off and a switch to present to the opposing defense. The rest of this team is just looking for someone to DO THEIR JOB...so they can do theirs.
 
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Weezer said:
Out of curiosity, and because I don't pay the 9.99, has there been any talk of blue shirting towards next year? Blue shirting is still allowed, right? Just not grey shirting.
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I think we'll need 1 to reach a full 25. You just can no longer blueshirt to get over 25.
 
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mrmax86 said:
I didn't even know we were pursuing a player by the name of Jay Hardy because OD started the thread and I had him on ignore. Had to unignore him to see the thread.
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The solution is not to ruin ignore but to disallow him starting player threads. There's a second example of the same. But I will add, that happened to me too, but someone mentioned it (prolly to you) and so I unblocked and found Hardy. You'll find out anyway when someone else says they can't find it.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Come on man, you know how this is going to go..Mushdump is going to stack the box, and make JG throw to win. We ain't running on that, and JG is not beating anybody. He is a black hole that sucks all hope out of everything.
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Spread them out with 4 WR. That will make it a little bit easier to run the ball. I just hate it when we stack everybody in bunch formation and try to run the ball. It is almost never successful.
 
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Devo182 said:
Think you'd want a current ref or rules expert to head this.

Either way, there's no financial incentive for someone to pour over this. The public is also limited to TV shots. I believe programs have something David Ubben has referred to as "24-angle" shots of all games. It would also be hard to know which judge is calling each penalty. Obvious sometimes, but plenty of times we don't know.

I've read there is some auditing of referree work...but I have no insight as to who does it. Would like to see an auditing firm combine with rules experts to independently audit everything.

There should be a quasi-NCAA subbody - wherein the member universities must fund it - but can have zero input on the committee. That committee could audit and oversee all referreeing. They would have no power to fire and hire, but they would make all information public. Basically just a public independent oversight body.
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This isn't what I'm asking for. I wouldn't want any university or conference involved. My idea is fan-driven. Hence the need to transparency. You've got guys out there willing to rate and rename every player on every team in an NCAA video game. Surely, there'd be folks willing to do this. You just need an organized ring leader. And, like I said, you could start small.

Most fouls you can see who throws the flag. If on any play you can't, it goes to the crew pool.
 
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Vols4us said:
Tells the story. Pathetic.
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Surely, we arenā€™t going to trot him out as the starter on Saturday, right? I wonder what we have planned if JT got the start and either got hurt or was disastrous? JJ? If JG does not start, then you have to think that heā€™s not the back up either.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Spread them out with 4 WR. That will make it a little bit easier to run the ball. I just hate it when we stack everybody in bunch formation and try to run the ball. It is almost never successful.
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Chaney spread MSU out in the fourth quarter. Shoop respected the heck out of our WRs and never stacked the box. It cost 'em.
 
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Devo182 said:
Just pisses me off more
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Yeah, I changed my avi back when I read it. Trying to look forward but the justifications keep setting me off anew.

You know, they did this to Arky vs Urban Meyers in 2009 and the SEC suspended the refs for the following week. Which really amounted to nothing but an acknowledgement: Florida still got to stay undefeated and get the preplanned game in Atlanta vs the bammers. But at least it was something. They should at least suspend them for life and investigate ties. I know nothing will happen.
 
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WriterVol said:
This isn't what I'm asking for. I wouldn't want any university or conference involved. My idea is fan-driven. Hence the need to transparency. You've got guys out there willing to rate and rename every player on every team in an NCAA video game. Surely, there'd be folks willing to do this. You just need an organized ring leader. And, like I said, you could start small.

Most fouls you can see who throws the flag. If on any play you can't, it goes to the crew pool.
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Probably because it would be mindnumbing and no financial incentive. And it would take years to have meaningful data since there's only 12 games a year. But maybe this data is already somewhere or someone does it. Someone either did it last year or uncovered the data for basketball because they had some damning numbers on "the LSU ref".
 
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