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Pane di mais said:
That is how they roll. Call some in garbage time for the stats guys. But also bammers PI infractions were so over-the-top with the arm waist! The numbers absolutely lie about how the refs stole our win.
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That is very routine. They call the garbage penalties to even them out. Or they call offside when it's already 4th and 29.
 
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Some people are talking about tweaking the targeting rule in response to what happened Saturday night when Bituli had no other option to stop the Alabama player. I propose that the targeting rule be changed to allow some of the responsibility to fall on the offensive player as well. So the new rule would read something like this:

If the ball carrier lowers his head below his waist in an attempt to gain more yards (ie diving motion) and contact is initiated by the defensive player resulting in targeting (hit to the head-neck area with the helmet or the crown of the helmet is used) a 15 yard penalty will be assessed from the spot of the foul and an automatic 1st down awarded. No player ejections are issued due to the ball carrier lowering his head.

Player's safety is important, but offensive players are using this rule to gain an unfair advantage over the defense. A rule change like this would shift the responsibility to all players for safety awareness.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i think we all agree no one wants to see JG out there again.

i don't.

all i'm saying is that the possiblity exists, and is extremely probable given how we've not been able to stay healthy behind JG.

i don't think the coaches do trust him, and i think they'll do what they can to keep BM healthy, and have shrout ready. i still wont' be surprised if i see #2 out there at some point, just out of necessity.......
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I don’t want to see JG out there if 18 is available but I do want to see him if he isn’t.

I understand why others disagree but I think there are some that agree that 2 gives us a better chance to win than 12
 
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With most things in this world, you can get within spitting distance of reality just by following the money. And man does a lot of money flow through college football - all the way from the media and entertainment outfits covering the sport to the cartel that profits by denying the players a paycheck all while merchandising their likeness. Buts thats a story for another day.

Any place you find this much cash you also naturally find corruption, grift, and nepotism among others. Here Im going to talk about a few things that will get you dismissed as a conspiracy theorist, at least by the same people doing the skimming.

College football reality number 1: Referees actively influence the outcome of games
Many peoples first thought is about a powerful person sending out instructions to throw a game, or about referees having a secret rooting interest. While the latter undoubtedly happens on a small scale, this is not generally how stuff is done. Instead, leagues have interests such as getting their representative teams into playoffs, high vis bowl games, and setting up regular season 'clash of the titans' type events. More eyeballs on a TV screen means more leverage when it comes time to renegotiate those TV contracts.

If you are, say, the SEC commissioner its absolutely not in your interest for a struggling nobody to beat your bell cow, spoil a 1v2 regular season match up, and probably lose 1 spot in the playoffs (you can get 2 in otherwise). Sending out instructions to toss a game is super dangerous. Communications will be intercepted or leaked by disgruntled employees and if the integrity of the game becomes openly questioned the money train is over. You do however control who is hired, fired, given choice assignments, promoted, &ct. Anyone who has worked in an organization can tell you what kind of actions will get you a pat on the head and what will get you a boot in the ass. Wielding this kind of soft power gets you what you want while maintaining plausible deniability.

College football reality number 2: 'Sports' and 'Journalism' should never be seen together in any sentence other than this one
If this kind of thing is as obvious and prevalent as it is - and it is - why dont we hear more about it? It comes back to the integrity of the sport. ESPN wants your eyeballs on that TV screen just as much as the NCAA does. The bodies covering the sport could investigative-journalism themselves up hundreds of articles exposing the various small time corruptions in and around college athletics. There are some decent journalists out there that do just this, but they'll be marginalized by the gorillas in the room. Thal Shalt Not Question The Integrity Of The Game. Hell its so bad now that they have to pull in ex-referees to explain why that obviously bogus call is correct actually.

Add to this that all the 'big time' sports writers that are practically stenographers in an incestuous relationship where scoops are traded for positive coverage *cough* Dan Wolken *cough* and you have a complete circle where every actor is completely invested in making the world a worse place - all in the pursuit of dollar bills.

So no, its not a conspiracy theory to say we got actively and knowingly jobbed. Its a conspiracy theory to say we didnt.
 
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Pepe said:
Who would have ever thought that LSU would come out the winner in the Tom Herman sweepstakes
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I honestly think that a lot of coaches overthink things, and Coach O will never be guilty of that, lol.

Just recruit the best athletes you can, motivate the hell out of them, and keep things fairly simple scheme-wise. Let your guys go out and make plays and get them out of their own heads.

Can you imagine a Coach O-led team hesitating too much on defense? Nah, those guys are ready to bust heads.
 
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Just because I’m bored. Of the current commits, do you think any of them will rise/fall? If so, which ones?
I think Bailey, Hyatt, Ojulari and Spragginz all rise.
Bailey .95
Hyatt .91
Ojulari .95 or .96 I can see
Spragginz .88
 
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Rocky_Top_Vol13 said:
Some people are talking about tweaking the targeting rule in response to what happened Saturday night when Bituli had no other option to stop the Alabama player. I propose that the targeting rule be changed to allow some of the responsibility to fall on the offensive player as well. So the new rule would read something like this:

If the ball carrier lowers his head below his waist in an attempt to gain more yards (ie diving motion) and contact is initiated by the defensive player resulting in targeting (hit to the head-neck area with the helmet or the crown of the helmet is used) a 15 yard penalty will be assessed from the spot of the foul and an automatic 1st down awarded. No player ejections are issued due to the ball carrier lowering his head.

Player's safety is important, but offensive players are using this rule to gain an unfair advantage over the defense. A rule change like this would shift the responsibility to all players for safety awareness.
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What if they just say there is no such thing as targeting when it’s below the knees?

It’s Nearly physically impossible to get your facemask up when contact is made low.
 
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Aesius said:
I honestly think that a lot of coaches overthink things, and Coach O will never be guilty of that, lol.

Just recruit the best athletes you can, motivate the hell out of them, and keep things fairly simple scheme-wise. Let your guys go out and make plays and get them out of their own heads.

Can you imagine a Coach O-led team hesitating too much on defense? Nah, those guys are ready to bust heads.
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But just to drive home the point, someone needs to tell Coach O to forfeit and take the first round bye. That's how ****** up things have gotten due to the B'ham office.

Otherwise bammer would be playing for survival and the refs couldn't help them get the bye and pretend to make a call against bammer's interest at the same time in two weeks.
 
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BruinVol said:
I don’t want to see JG out there if 18 is available but I do want to see him if he isn’t.

I understand why others disagree but I think there are some that agree that 2 gives us a better chance to win than 12
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i think it's a crap shoot as to who gives us the best chance to win.

Maurer has more ability to 'wow' you and make big plays. but he turns it over and can't stay healthy.

Shrout isn't trusted at all.

and JG is what he is.

BM gets the vote for the ability to keep drives alive with his legs and he has big play potential. but he's just as pronte to turn it over as any of the other two.

the QB position as it stands to day is a problem..........i think BM at least has that "you never know what you're gonna get" vibe, whereas JG i think we know exactly what we're getting and it inspires absolutely zero confidence. with BM, you feel like there's a chance for something good, if not great, to happen.

shrout.........flip a coin between he and JG a this point for all i care.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Just prepare for JG to start. We all know it's about to happen, we just need the defense & offensive line to dominate the game so Chaney can dial up 65 runs.
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JG be all...
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TrippieRedd said:
Just because I’m bored. Of the current commits, do you think any of them will rise/fall? If so, which ones?
I think Bailey, Hyatt, Ojulari and Spragginz all rise.
Bailey .95
Hyatt .91
Ojulari .95 or .96 I can see
Spragginz .88
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i can see all those happening. KL might be the one that falls a tad? maybe Cooper Mays bumps up a tad?
 
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