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luthervol said:
Do you know who the father of deficit spending is?
Reagan; and the right views him as some sort of conservative god.
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It's hard to argue against going in debt to put the Russian war machine out of business and end the Cold War. If following administrations don't do something stupid, the positive developments should allow repayment of the debt. But then "stupid" and "politician" are just a matter of different spelling.

As far as Reagan goes, I don't generally hold him in the same esteem that a lot of "conservatives" do. I never thought his mind was as sharp as his presence, and those who led/advised him were of questionable policy and ethics ... that's just me; but overall I liked Reagan better than most presidents.
 
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AM64 said:
It's hard to argue against going in debt to put the Russian war machine out of business and end the Cold War. If following administrations don't do something stupid, the positive developments should allow repayment of the debt. But then "stupid" and "politician" are just a matter of different spelling.

As far as Reagan goes, I don't generally hold him in the same esteem that a lot of "conservatives" do. I never thought his mind was as sharp as his presence, and those who led/advised him were of questionable policy and ethics ... that's just me; but overall I liked Reagan better than most presidents.
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Look at his immediate predecessors.
Nixon
Ford
Carter

IMHO, a big improvement, despite his faults.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Did you care about it from Jan 2009-Jan 2017?
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I've cared consistently since the 80s, but I don't vote on the single issue of whether a candidate has a D or an R after their name.

It's you partisans who keep doing monkey rolls on policy when it's convenient who have no credibility.
 
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Rifleman said:
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Almost 5 trillion? Existential threat!!!

This year's budget deficit over 1 trillion? . . . crickets . . . or, how dare you hypocritical liberals pretend to care about what we used to pretend to care about!
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I agree. When one party has power they don't care about debt and the other party gripes about debt. When power flips, the concern for debt does a 180 for parties also.

Shameful that very few seem to care.
 
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37L1 said:
Look at his immediate predecessors.
Nixon
Ford
Carter

IMHO, a big improvement, despite his faults.
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Truman was president when I was born, and I actually remember the 1952 election when Eisenhower ran the first time, so I've seen a lot of presidents come and go. However, being the deplorable that I am, I had more respect for Nixon than most other presidents - probably because he had a lot of Kennedy/Johnson unbungling to do. I remember him more favorably than most historians ... including many who weren't around when Nixon was.
 
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AM64 said:
Truman was president when I was born, and I actually remember the 1952 election when Eisenhower ran the first time, so I've seen a lot of presidents come and go. However, being the deplorable that I am, I had more respect for Nixon than most other presidents - probably because he had a lot of Kennedy/Johnson unbungling to do. I remember him more favorably than most historians ... including many who weren't around when Nixon was.
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Nixon bungled up whatever good he may have done by the way he handled the Watergate fiasco. Being forced to step down from office created a whole 'nuther mess to clean up.
 
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37L1 said:
Nixon bungled up whatever good he may have done by the way he handled the Watergate fiasco. Being forced to step down from office created a whole 'nuther mess to clean up.
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Yep, Nixon definitely wasn't clever enough to manage the situation, but I was never convinced that he instigated Watergate. He was pretty smart, and there was too little to gain and too much to lose if caught. Where a lot of people think he was crooked, I tend to saw him as more inept at managing ticklish problems ... not a cool and convincing speaker at all.
 
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AM64 said:
Yep, Nixon definitely wasn't clever enough to manage the situation, but I was never convinced that he instigated Watergate. He was pretty smart, and there was too little to gain and too much to lose if caught. Where a lot of people think he was crooked, I tend to saw him as more inept at managing ticklish problems ... not a cool and convincing speaker at all.
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It was his part in the cover up after the fact that did him in.
The Watergate break in was ridiculous as he did not need help to win the election. It was a landslide of epic proportions that Trump would love to claim.
 
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evillawyer said:
A bank robber without a mask or weapon is also tremendously bold and transparent. Doesn't change it from a bank robbery.
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Apparently, Sen. Cramer is saying that there is "integrity" associated with breaking the law, as long as you are up front about it. The Title of Nobility Clause, Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution makes it clear that what Trump is attempting to do is illegal.
 
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evillawyer said:
She was owning Trump because (1) she was the only woman in the room, (2) she was physically smaller than everyone else in the room, (3) she was standing up talking directly to Trump, (4) Trump looked exasperated and bewildered that she would do that, and (5) all his minions were looking down in what appears to be embarrassment at him.
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So,

 
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