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BruinVol said:
Changing the topic slightly I don’t think the Program is going to loudly promote 18. For one I don’t think Pruitt believes he’s the future and just as importantly I don’t think Pruitt wants him being sold as the future because of bailey.
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Who knows if the media content people consult with Pruitt though. I don't see Pruitt micromanaging to that degree. Meanwhile Butch was probably trying to run all our social media himself.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
The 25 signee cap is really killing our rebuild.

Especially when so many '17s and Banks Antonutti from '18 are leaving/gone. Then next season additional '18s are likely gone in DWA (graduated) and maybe a few transfers for lack of PT (Shrout, Bradon Davis etc)

And you look at that '18 class.... our #1 guy Peterson is a complete non factor, despite all the physical talent in the world and nothing but opportunity in front of him.

Jordan Allen, I think, has some kind of injury - but even before that he's been a non factor for a JUCO kid, and when he is in, he looks completely lost out there. Wanted to transfer this past offseason and his mom talked him out of it. It'll be curious to see what he does after this year.

Ollie Lane appears to have been recruited over. I literally never hear his name mentioned anywhere. Same with Brandon Davis. For someone who said the staff compared him to Honey Badger, I can't recall him ever even getting on the field despite all the opportunities.

Trevon Flowers has been MIA. Or has he been playing? Hell I don't have a clue.

John Mincey isn't mentioned hardly.

Way too early prognostication is, it looks like going into the 2020 season, when the '18s should be the backbone of the team, we're only going to have the following reliable contributors:

Alontae Taylor (I think he gets healthy and is a top 3 corner on this team next year - fingers crossed)
Bryce Thompson (tbh I worry that he stays out of trouble long enough to finish his career here)
Greg Emerson (Despite being our 3rd highest rated signee in 18 [behind JJP and AT] I expected basically nothing from him after his injury. So glad he's developing into one of our best DL, although that isn't saying much)
Emmitt Gooden - He'll come back from that ACL and should give us one more good year before graduation and hopefully a future in the NFL.
Kurott Garland - Surprisingly has graded out as one of the best DL in a couple games this year.
Cedric Tillman - Getting playing time now, and by next year will be in his third year on the team. Considering the void at WR next year, he should see plenty of playing time.
Kenneth George - Doesn't look half bad when he's on the field.

TBD:

Jacob Warren - I don't remember which outlet was reporting it, but someone was very high on him this off season - that he was flashing but needed another year due to the near 30+ lb weight gain. In school he was a gifted receiver and if he can adjust to his size, he might be a match up issue for defenses.
John Mincey - I don't want to write him off. I think he might just be buried in the mediocre depth chart. Maybe another year will do wonders for him.

Outside of that I don't know who we'd really be able to count on. That isn't good.

I don't fault CJP for this considering the short period of time he had to throw together a class. But if you look at it, we don't look like we're going to have any reliable offensive players from the '18 year. Maybe Jerome Carvin?
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3 more years of top 10 classes and stable coaching staff will get us back to 8-9 wins a year. Til then 6 wins is going to be challenging
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Need someone on defense to get a little swagger in 'em.


A big de-cleating of whoever MSU trots out at QB would be nice....Maybe we'll finally see Roman "the Empire" Harrison get a few sacks.
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Warrior has swag, just not always executing. I thought he maybe played his best game vs uga though.

Gooden has major Barnett tendencies, too bad he isn't out there. BT and ATs are dogs as well. But dogs have to execute before anything else matters.
 
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Vols2DaWall said:
Yup. Maurer needs a lot of seasoning but he definitely has passion, drive and leadership
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He's like a kid out there jumping around after every score. Good to see someone having fun! You tend to play better that way.

We have been too joyless this year and it's shown through passionless play (mostly in game 1, much better since).
 
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So apparently Rob Lewis said on 99.1 yesterday the staff would like to use Crouch at RB but to this point he has largely refused and they are afraid to push it because they convinced him to come here under the assumption he would be a linebacker only.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Maybe, just don't know which Maurer we would have got.
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Exactly.

Besides, we're (hypothetically) asking him to score 39+ vs ga st. That loss still hangs heavily on defense.

BYU...yes i'd like to think we can beat a team with 13 pts with 17 seconds left. BUT if he played like he did vs Chatt or UF he would've been pulled regardless. LOVE what he did vs uga, but people acting like he's shown that all year are kidding themselves.

Those 2 weeks off did wonders and hopefully wasn't just an anomaly. Bad practice report yesterday is also hopefully an anomaly and he didn't get Guarantano'd with those hits vs UGA. I do wonder if he was concussed Saturday.
 
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Devo182 said:
Exactly.

Besides, we're (hypothetically) asking him to score 39+ vs ga st. That loss still hangs heavily on defense.

BYU...yes i'd like to think we can beat a team with 13 pts with 17 seconds left. BUT if he played like he did vs Chatt or UF he would've been pulled regardless. LOVE what he did vs uga, but people acting like he's shown that all year are kidding themselves.

Those 2 weeks off did wonders and hopefully wasn't just an anomaly. Bad practice report yesterday is also hopefully an anomaly and he didn't get Guarantano'd with those hits vs UGA. I do wonder if he was concussed Saturday.
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Yep. The Georgia State was a loss no matter which QB we threw out there.

BYU is interesting because I’d like to believe we could have scored more points. However, I think there’s a pretty good chance we’d have more turnovers too. That one could go either way.

All told, JG played poorly but technically played well enough to win that game. The last 20 seconds on defense were a nightmare and maybe program defining.
 
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UTProf said:
I said earlier that Maurer is white JJ. I love it. So far he's not been too over the top and this team needs a leader with swag. They feed off it.
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I knew the first I saw him on the field the kid is a gunslinger. He has swagger, but not cocky to the point of being unlikeable. I suspect that he has a bright future ahead of him here at the University of Tennessee
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
The 25 signee cap is really killing our rebuild.
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Not disagreeing here, as even the new hard cap slows things down with the inability to blueshirt a ton of guys and reach 30+ classes (no matter it hurting you down the road as we felt 2016 and on). So don't take this as an argument, just trying to understand things historically.

But just out of curiousity - the 25 initial counter rule was always there, right (at least for the recent past - 1 or 2 decades at least)?

I know the hard cap limiting signees came a couple years ago and the SEC's "Houston Nutt Rule" came in 2010 limiting signees to 28.

But even before then - let's say when Nutt signed 37...they still had to cut enough by Fall to reach 25 initial counters for that class (plus rollover guys - blueshirts, grayshirts, etc) correct? So were they just signing more than could actually fit in by Fall, then cutting kids mid-Summer?
 
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Kingston Vol said:
So apparently Rob Lewis said on 99.1 yesterday the staff would like to use Crouch at RB but to this point he has largely refused and they are afraid to push it because they convinced him to come here under the assumption he would be a linebacker only.
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Pruitt said last week on Vol Calls that in the recruiting process that they pitched to him about playing rb in short yardage and goal line packages and he was open to it as long as his primary position was linebacker. So that doesn't sound very accurate to me
 
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quadlee21 said:
Pruitt said last week on Vol Calls that in the recruiting process that they pitched to him about playing rb in short yardage and goal line packages and he was open to it as long as his primary position was linebacker. So that doesn't sound very accurate to me
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Yes it does.

Sounds like Pruitt wants to play him primarily as a RB but that wasn’t the understanding he was recruited with


I don’t get why we would want him to play Rb. We are more than fine there
 
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Kingston Vol said:
So apparently Rob Lewis said on 99.1 yesterday the staff would like to use Crouch at RB but to this point he has largely refused and they are afraid to push it because they convinced him to come here under the assumption he would be a linebacker only.
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Not sure that's accurate...if it is then Rob has contracted himself from last week on 99.1.
 
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so now we're making up issues between Crouch and Pruitt?

none of this is a big secret. Crouch didn't want to play RB in college. we recruited him as a LB. he's playing LB, and crouch has said in interviews that he doesn't mind doing the special package stuff from time to time, but he sees himeslf as a LB primarily.

i doubt there's a big divide anywhere because of this.....and it's not like we don't have huge needs at LB right now, he's moved to ILB for now....which i think is where he was projected anyway....they only moved him outside because they had Bituli, HT and a hand full of others to play ILB....

i think there's a whole lot of nothing to any of that..........and it's gonna take a lot more than "i think i heard on the radio"....lol
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Not sure that's accurate...if it is the Rob has contracted himself from last week on 99.1.
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Just relaying the conversation Josh Ward and Ubben were having about Rob’s SportsTalk hit on Monday.

They even went as far to say we were able to sign Crouch over Clemson’s efforts because they wanted him at RB full time.
 
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