Maurer should be the starting QB for the remainder of the season.

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beamerman said:
Wow, thanks. The change actually lit a fire in me that maybe we have the right guy, that he was moving on and changing the culture. Needless to say I am not on fire since we are seeing the same old thing. I am over caring since the players don’t. I grew up with Condredge Holloway and this slop is embarrassing. There was a guy who laid it all out there.
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If it don’t happen right away I expect it to by season end. I’m a firm believer that had JP went with Maurer at the beginning we would be seeing his improvements by now, although our record would still be the same. I feel like yesterday would’ve ended something like 34-20ish. Of coarse there would be those criticizing his every mistake and calling for JG
 
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1vol8 said:
If it don’t happen right away I expect it to by season end. I’m a firm believer that had JP went with Maurer at the beginning we would be seeing his improvements by now, although our record would still be the same. I feel like yesterday would’ve ended something like 34-20ish. Of coarse there would be those criticizing his every mistake and calling for JG
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I actually would feel better about the program had that happened.
 
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Bainx said:
When that little ****threw an interception he got on sidelines and was screaming at his team mates...he’ll they should have been screaming at HIM!!
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That was one of the worst throws of the many bad throws in his UT career. It isn't like they mis-communicated - which they may have done - but when he released the ball, the receiver was already up-field and the only one there was the FL player. It was like he was throwing it to him on purpose. That was a really terrible decision.

Did anyone else hear the color guy talk about the DWA overthrow? He said something like "...that's not open - that's like being the only person on the field." 'Nuf said...

As much as I like the guts and gumption of JG, let someone else start and set the place for next year. Even if he is the best QB we've got, coaches please play someone else. Please.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
We need a whole team to win, but Bailey is better than any current qb on the roster, not saying much, but he is 🔥
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That’s not true. How can he be better if BM is just as effective from a pocket as HB but has a stronger arm and the ability to escape. Also BM is faster through his reads and doesn’t preselect his receivers. Not saying HB is not good but he’s no more ready than BM is now
 
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1vol8 said:
That’s not true. How can he be better if BM is just as effective from a pocket as HB but has a stronger arm and the ability to escape. Also BM is faster through his reads and doesn’t preselect his receivers. Not saying HB is not good but he’s no more ready than BM is now
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BM was STARING DOWN his receivers yesterday. HB is a better fit for Chaney’s offense.
 
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TNTUBA said:
Didn't read through all the garbage.

Just here to point out that he went 4/11 for 44 yards and a pick.

and went 0/2 vs UTC.

And this is the guy you want to start?

I'm so thankful coaches don't listen to their idiot fans.
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I'll just repeat since you didn't "read through all the garbage".

I don't know that Shrout or Maurer are the answer. But I AM 99.9999999% sure that JG isn't and never will be. He's hit his ceiling and it is WAY too low. He doesn't play with confidence. He doesn't lead with confidence. And from a skills standpoint he simply does not process fast enough to make plays.

As for the stats you posted, both played like Fr with very little experience against an SEC quality defense. The difference is that one is a Fr... the other is a RS Jr and three year starter.

So the season is more or less shot. UT isn't going to win behind JG. The only "risk" in investing the rest of the season with one of the others is that they won't win either... and that's not much of a risk.

Maurer has a live arm and mobility. All reports say he has moxie and confidence. If I were Pruitt... that's where I would take my first shot.


Oh, another factor is that the gameplan and O was built around what they thought JG can do... which in fact he's proven he can't do. They have two weeks if they're decisive to build an O using roll outs and plays that suit Maurer/Shrout better.
 
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Smokey1990 said:
Maurer is a freshman and can only improve. JG gets worse every game. This season is going to be an absolute disaster regardless, so why not let the freshman get some experience and improve?
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Hm, well, I would say JG still is struggling, but did actually improve a bit from Ga State, in which he was truly wretched. Still not near enough, I agree, but that's a nit.

My main point would be I am not sure I would throw Maurer to the Dawgs just yet (literally). Let JG start, then when he struggles bring Maurer in and see if he does better. That's a great way to compare the two. If Mauer shows a big advantage over JG against the same D, then start him against MSU. If not, keep that system going until one or the other shows as being better at least through bammer.

Let's face it, we have little to no chance against bammer and uga. MSU we do, thus the chance for Maurer to start. But if I'm Pruitt, I am looking to the winnable games, those being MSU and most of our November schedule, and would want Maurer to face that slate and not bammer and uga.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
BM was STARING DOWN his receivers yesterday. HB is a better fit for Chaney’s offense.
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That can be coached out of most QB's. One of the things with JG is that he's doing it worse now than he was two years ago.

There's no reason for HB to be intimidated either way. Losing or failing to improve at the other positions over the course of the season would be the reason he might take another look around. All they have to do if Maurer becomes the starter and has some success is point to Clemson, Bama, UGA, and other programs that have replaced talented starters by someone who was better.

I could have my timing wrong but wasn't Chaney involved when Fromm took the job away from Eason?
 
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BanditVol said:
Hm, well, I would say JG still is struggling, but did actually improve a bit from Ga State, in which he was truly wretched. Still not near enough, I agree, but that's a nit.

My main point would be I am not sure I would throw Maurer to the Dawgs just yet (literally). Let JG start, then when he struggles bring Maurer in and see if he does better. That's a great way to compare the two. If Mauer shows a big advantage over JG against the same D, then start him against MSU. If not, keep that system going until one or the other shows as being better at least through bammer.

Let's face it, we have little to no chance against bammer and uga. MSU we do, thus the chance for Maurer to start. But if I'm Pruitt, I am looking to the winnable games, those being MSU and most of our November schedule, and would want Maurer to face that slate and not bammer and uga.
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I see what you're saying but if they're going with someone else then they need to make a decision and run with it. They also need to modify the O to play to the new starter's strengths. Using Maurer's mobility and ability to throw on the run would be a shift from JG who is pretty much a stationary passer... who struggles to find receivers and confidently deliver the ball.

If they turn to Shrout, he's more mobile than JG but not as much as BM. They would need to give him more throws that allow him to lead or anticipate the receiver.

Maurer and Shrout have demonstrated confidence. They don't hesitate like JG. Both will make mistakes but both can be coached up and should have an exponentially steep learning rate early on.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
BM was STARING DOWN his receivers yesterday. HB is a better fit for Chaney’s offense.
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BM doesn’t know those receivers. Hate to tell you HB stares down his receivers in an offense he already knows like the back of his hand if you really watch him. Very rarely does he come off of option 1 and frequently throws into dbl/triple coverage. In BMs defense It’s only natural to stare them down when you don’t know their tendencies or speed but I assure you that’s not a part of his game. In fact last year he had a game where 4 of his receivers had over 100 yards receiving. That’s the only time it’s ever been done in the state of Florida. So trust me.... he may do that for a while but it'll only last as long as it takes him to get to know the receivers.
 
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SprocketRocket said:
That was one of the worst throws of the many bad throws in his UT career. It isn't like they mis-communicated - which they may have done - but when he released the ball, the receiver was already up-field and the only one there was the FL player. It was like he was throwing it to him on purpose. That was a really terrible decision.

Did anyone else hear the color guy talk about the DWA overthrow? He said something like "...that's not open - that's like being the only person on the field." 'Nuf said...

As much as I like the guts and gumption of JG, let someone else start and set the place for next year. Even if he is the best QB we've got, coaches please play someone else. Please.
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During the off season I talked about and argued with the cult about JG's inability to "see" the coverage, anticipate the openings, then deliver the ball to the right spot on time. Based on what has been said since April from coaches and reporters, I think they invested a lot of time trying to improve JG's decision making, timing, and confidence.

That INT was a microcosm of what they were trying to get him to do... and his inability to actually do it. He makes poor reads and decisions... and is late almost all the time. I suspect the other one was as well but could not see when he released the ball on TV with relation to where DWA was in his route.
 
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1vol8 said:
BM doesn’t know those receivers. Hate to tell you HB stares down his receivers in an offense he already knows like the back of his hand if you really watch him. Very rarely does he come off of option 1 and frequently throws into dbl/triple coverage. In BMs defense It’s only natural to stare them down when you don’t know their tendencies or speed but I assure you that’s not a part of his game. In fact last year he had a game where 4 of his receivers had over 100 yards receiving. That’s the only time it’s ever been done in the state of Florida. So trust me.... he may do that for a while but it'll only last as long as it takes him to get to know the receivers.
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On most teams, the starter gets 70% plus of the starter's reps in practice. BM played like a guy who hasn't been getting the starter's reps. If he gets those for the next two weeks then he will likely play much better.
 
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Maurer nor Shrout is ready for the job.

The one thing you hope is that the team rallies around them and they learn quick given the opportunity.

They have to find something one of them does well and build off that.

It's not an enviable position but they re stuck in the mud with JG.
 
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sjt18 said:
On most teams, the starter gets 70% plus of the starter's reps in practice. BM played like a guy who hasn't been getting the starter's reps. If he gets those for the next two weeks then he will likely play much better.
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Right. According to the practice updates he hasn’t taken many if any at all with the ones because they have been battling for the #2 spot. So anyone that’s been watching the battle closely was interested in who was taking snaps with the 2s.
 
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1vol8 said:
Right. According to the practice updates he hasn’t taken many if any at all with the ones because they have been battling for the #2 spot. So anyone that’s been watching the battle closely was interested in who was taking snaps with the 2s.
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Don't believe that. They've had someone taking reps with the 1's "just in case". The worse case is that they've been splitting the non-starter's reps.
 
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