Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[butchna]

I don't believe anyone seriously considered Mack Brown.

On this board? Ninja please!

 

[Dudley Smith]

I still don't think UF is a top 10 team. If JG wasn't a complete headcase we would've been in that game. As to Pruitt... There are so many things wrong that are completely on coaching. I'm not ready to give up completely on him but I get the feeling we're gonna be stuck with the Ole Miss version of Cutcliffe while someone else will get the better version. He's learning on the job here but I'm not sure I want to spend 6-7 years with him to find out if he can learn to be a HC instead of just a genius coordinator.

Cutcliffe at Ole Miss wasn’t that bad. I fear we are getting the Ole Miss version of Ed Orgeron.

 

[ATC_VOL]

Think we play in Provo in 2021, 2022?

2023

@Pitt in 2022

 

[Vols_Life]

I am convinced Saban and Dabo would not be successful with the current QB play. However, I know they would make changes to fix things...enter Tua and Trevor, respectfully. And hell, the two guys these individuals replaced were light years ahead of JG. Granted, they also had a better supporting cast, but at the end of the day, it still largely depends on the QB. That is why they are referred to as the field general. Defend JG and bash the coaching all you want, but execution on the field is on him. But likewise, making the decision to bench him is on the coaches, specifically CJP. No one individual is solely responsible for this mess, but the dysfunctional QB play is one of the primary culprits!

 

[Dudley Smith]

Well it’s not just us that’s having an existential crisis after yesterday. I can imagine you’d find similar postings on Michigan boards as well.

 

[ATC_VOL]

Help me with the math.

If attendance goes down by just 10k, roughly 10%, next season how much money is lost per game???



I’m guessing the answer to this question proves it does make financial sense to fire the fool that doesn’t even know when to take or decline a penalty. Bama Pruitt must go!!

Say average $60 ticket for 7 home games. That’s 4.2 million plus any loss in donations from those that would have had season tickets.

 

[BruinVol]

Say average $60 ticket for 7 home games. That’s 4.2 million plus any loss in donations from those that would have had season tickets.

Thanks

Then financially speaking it makes all the sense in the world to get rid of Bama Pruitt now.

 

[jakez4ut]

Well it’s not just us that’s having an existential crisis after yesterday. I can imagine you’d find similar postings on Michigan boards as well.

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Lol. And yeah Michigan boards have to be brutal..

 

[ATC_VOL]

Thanks

Then financially speaking it makes all the sense in the world to get rid of Bama Pruitt now.

That’s if you thought a new coach would keep those hypothetical 10K people in the stands next season. If we continue to look like this the rest of the season, they’ll continue to see a decline in donations and ticket sales no matter who’s the coach probably.

How much longer are we paying Butch for.

 

[TheTimeIsNow]

At least we will win next weekend.

 

[millst987]

The admin hasn’t felt the impact of a crap football program yet, I believe that’s coming

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

At least we will win next weekend.

What’s the line?

 

[JohnnyD1024]

It amazes me how many good coaches aren't good enough for a fanbase of a team that's 56 and 60 so far this decade with 6 losing seasons with a 7th probably on it's way this year.

 

[TrueVolsGBOInsider]

I think you roll with BM the next two weeks and you tell the team we’re gonna give BM the whole Georgia game. Build around BM’s strengths and get the play-calling on par with his style of play and see what happens. He needs a whole game to show what he’s capable of and I think what he showed yesterday in spot time earned him a chance at starting vs Georgia.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

What’s the line?

I believe Open is favored by 3.

 

[millst987]

I can’t even laugh at this point

 

[Vols4us]

Great stuff this morning, folks! Cap tip to all of you.

A Leach hire would be for 8 wins and the entertainment value. The later would wear off after a couple of years. However, so much fun at the microphone for awhile.

Stuck with Pruitt through this 2-3 win season unless he changes course soon. For all the Bama, cornbread, defense guru appearances he coaches strangely. There seems to be little value placed on winning and great value in teaching lessons to players who clearly do not understand what he is trying to accomplish. Example: he and Ansley are trying to teach the secondary to play Bama type zone coverages/scheme during games when the players are barely adequate at man and press coverages. That they are trying to do this during games tells me they are clueless, tone deaf, or going to do what they are going to do regardless of the result. They did that for half of the game yesterday. In the second half they made adjustments, but by then the run D and D overall was just tired. Theo Jackson was the only guy in the secondary that did what they asked of him and more.

I'm beginning to believe he cut a deal with Fulmer and big money to just be bad if they had to, burn it down, and rebuild everything. In which case they are trying to save the QB role for Bailey so there is no controversy for when he starts as a true freshman. Chaney knows how to mix in some RPO like he did with Fromm at UGA. That is Maurer's current skillset. If they were serious about winning this next two weeks would tell any coach to get that underway. We will see if it happens or not. I believe they thought they could improve JG enough to get by this season and get to a bowl. So many of the players on this roster are like him in that they have no football smarts and/or heart. It shows up in the dumb penalties, missed assignments, dumb turnovers, etc.

The football program is dead as we once knew it long ago. The only question left in my mind is whether it was intentional to rebuild from the foundation or not, along with is Jeremy Pruitt the guy to complete the job. If not, fire up the coaching search. Again.

 

[jakez4ut]

At least we will win next weekend.

No. We just won't lose.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Pruitt said after the Georgia State game that we shouldn’t make judgements off of one game. He said we should look at the body of work over 4 or 5 games. Welp, we’re at 4 and number 5 ain’t looking all that good for us.

Whether true or not it was reported during the offseason that Pruitt had told a recruit(s) that he expected to win 8 games this year and would like to win 10. Mathematically and with a post season win, that is still possible though I’m not sure if there is a living soul who thinks that’s even remotely realistic at this point.

JG said in a preseason interview that he wanted to be the best QB in the country. Honestly, I am not trying to pile on here. I actually have empathy for the guy, and for Pruitt too.

I think the idea of looking in the mirror is interesting but I don’t think I’ve ever had an occasion to look in the mirror and ended up telling the guy looking back at me how delusional he seemed to be. I don’t give up at least not until I am totally whipped. Based on my experience most of the time I’ve been able to make that work. Faith can move mountains and all that.

I wonder if Pruitt still believes in himself as a head coach or if JG still believes in himself as a QB. At one point just before the season started Pruitt responding to a question during one of his pressers (I think after Gooden got hurt and we still had no word on Aubrey and at least publicly didn’t know whether Trey would be available), said our team hadn’t at that point had to face any adversity yet.

I’ve continued along with some people connected to program (Vol Network guys in particular) to believe Pruitt’s contention that we have a good football team this year. It’s going to be interesting to see what Pat and Jeff have to say Monday night. My own faith is pretty shaky right now.

The late and greatest of all time Coach Pat Summit said in an interview with Inc. Magazine several years ago that she never set a goal of winning a national championship before the season started. She said if you set goals like that and then stumble out of the gate you run the risk of becoming demoralized. She said she approached setting goals on a smaller scale such that if you could achieve those then you might end up putting yourself in a position to compete for a national championship.

LAVol said after the Georgia State game that we needed to give the people working behind the scenes at UT an opportunity to fix the issues that we were angry about after the first game. Last week LA said the UF and MSU games were pivotal. I thought they were must win games. I’m not sure what pivots LA was suggesting but I don’t think a lot of recruits view the situation the same as fans. A few of the guys Butch had committed in his last class (2018) are SEC starters or major contributors for other SEC teams this year and some of them contributed last year as freshmen. They were coming here even though we were going to lose 8 games in one season for the first time in the history of our program.

I think a lot of our fans are demoralized right now. I’m not sure about either our staff or our players and I’m even less sure about our potential recruits. I think the questions are does our staff still believe it can get the job done? Do our players still believe they can compete? And do our recruits and targets still believe in our program and our coaching staff? I don’t think their answers are necessarily the same answers we would get if we surveyed our fans - or maybe they would be the same and I’m just being delusional. jmo.

 

[quadlee21]

Hey, look at me. I’m the guy who didn’t play Gordon this week.

I appreciate that decision Slick

 

[nesbuddha66]

Anybody know the extent of Wanya Morris? He gonna be ready by Georgia?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Help me with the math.

If attendance goes down by just 10k, roughly 10%, next season how much money is lost per game???



I’m guessing the answer to this question proves it does make financial sense to fire the fool that doesn’t even know when to take or decline a penalty. Bama Pruitt must go!!

I posted that earlier. If the average season ticket is $2,500 (That's a guess). That would be $25,000,000.

 

[nashvol1]

Have been pondering the impact of the early signing period on AD decisions to move on from a coach.

So many of the good players signing early means you are a full one cycle behind if you wait til end of year. We could see more mid season chances ala the NFL if there is a coach to be hired.

Of course if no coach to be hired and wait til after season, the recruiting situation could be worse.

Either way, if Pruitt can’t pull off a decent early signing, Fulmer needs to seriously think about the next 2 to 3 years. If we keep losing could be sooner.

 

[quadlee21]

Is there any other media member that wears it on his shoulders like Chad does ? I like him and his passion for our university

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

We are a top ten program. We have sucked for a decade but we are still a top program. I am tired of us not acting like it. We could hire a good coach if we fired someone who won two games at a program like ours. There are plenty of head coaches who would come here.