UAW On Strike

[zeppelin128]

It is the first time in 12 years an American auto union has walked out on strike.

"The union's 46,000 hourly workers walked out at 31 GM factories and 21 other facilities, spread across nine states, mostly in the center of the country. It's the largest strike by any union against any business since the last strike at GM in 2007."

UAW GM strike: UAW goes on strike against GM - CNN

 

[ETV]

My sympathy level is on the low end this time for the UAW.

It's been reported that the average UAW worker pays about 3% of his or her health care costs compared with 28% paid by the average U.S. worker. 3%? Do they not realize they're biting the hands that feed them?

 

[rjd970]

Average hourly worker makes $90K before benefits? Is that right?

 

[davethevol]

Bunch of ungrateful socialists. They’ve got it made and still get greedy.

 

[InVOLuntary]

And this is why other countries are building our cars.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Average hourly worker makes $90K before benefits? Is that right?

This is why my trucks cost way more than they should plus trucks sell really well. I guess they will go up more now.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Those hired before 07 average 28-38 per hour. Those hired after make 16-20. Now you have a bunch of people making $20/hr who have 10+ years of experience. It will be time to kick up those wages.

 

[rjd970]

Those hired before 07 average 28-38 per hour. Those hired after make 16-20. Now you have a bunch of people making $20/hr who have 10+ years of experience. It will be time to kick up those wages.

Where are you getting those numbers? According to the article it looks like the average hourly worker makes $90K, which comes out to about $40/hr....average. And that is before benefits.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Where are you getting those numbers? According to the article it looks like the average hourly worker makes $90K, which comes out to about $40/hr....average. And that is before benefits.

Auto industry has lied before about the average earnings to garner support in 2007.

 

[rjd970]

I get that unions served a purpose and were once needed. With modern regulations and what not, I'm not so sure they really serve a meaningful purpose anymore. The market should determine wages, which is what the unions are mostly negotiating now.

UAW can do this of course. And of course, GM and other auto manufacturers can and will move to right to work states and offshore factories.

 

[volmanbill]

If my wife's Tennessee built Cadillac is any indication, they've been on strike for awhile.

 

[82_VOL_83]

My sympathy level is on the low end this time for the UAW.

It's been reported that the average UAW worker pays about 3% of his or her health care costs compared with 28% paid by the average U.S. worker. 3%? Do they not realize they're biting the hands that feed them?

No, they are that misinformed at the worker level. Trust me. The average worker only knows what they are told by their leadership. It is frowned upon and actually illegal for anyone outside of the union to comment on bargaining points prior to a vote.......bargaining in good faith BS. My company has just been through it and we had one segment that killed it for everyone based on "just because". They couldn't name issues that they were against, they just had issues and were going to vote NO anyway as protest.

 

[0nelilreb]

No, they are that misinformed at the worker level. Trust me. The average worker only knows what they are told by their leadership. It is frowned upon and actually illegal for anyone outside of the union to comment on bargaining points prior to a vote.......bargaining in good faith BS. My company has just been through it and we had one segment that killed it for everyone based on "just because". They couldn't name issues that they were against, they just had issues and were going to vote NO anyway as protest.

It’s always a hot mess . The cat and mouse games , trying to find a happy medium between your members while the company is floating rumors , talking to the ones they know will talk to them and give them a feel or mood of everyone . The company always has a united front while the union is trying to figure out ( for example ) what 400 people care about and want to bargain on . Keep in mind this is only from a private business stand point and a local union that’s able to negotiate at that facility . Master contracts that several different unions abide by , are a whole different ball of nasty .

 

[GVF]

Those hired before 07 average 28-38 per hour. Those hired after make 16-20. Now you have a bunch of people making $20/hr who have 10+ years of experience. It will be time to kick up those wages.

Knew a couple who both worked the auto lines. $75,000 a year, each, just to attach a bumper to a car. That's all they did. That makes no sense.

 

[Orangeburst]

Knew a couple who both worked the auto lines. $75,000 a year, each, just to attach a bumper to a car. That's all they did. That makes no sense.

GM and Chrysler workers smoking and drinking on the job. The Chrysler workers even got reinstated.

 

[davethevol]

GM and Chrysler workers smoking and drinking on the job. The Chrysler workers even got reinstated.



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The guy that did that expose has a bunch of them on YouTube. He’s an investigative reporter out of Michigan and his pieces are amazing. He takes on all sorts of crooks and dirty politicians. His name is Rob Wolcheck and is worth watching.

 

[Orangeburst]

The guy that did that expose has a bunch of them on YouTube. He’s an investigative reporter out of Michigan and his pieces are amazing. He takes on all sorts of crooks and dirty politicians. His name is Rob Wolcheck and is worth watching.

This report was in 2010 and only 5 days after Obama visited the plant and touted their work ethic and the fact that the American taxpayer bailed them out. I have been in some union plants and heard some pretty telling stories. Just about impossible to fire these union members.

 

[Roustabout]

And this is why other countries are building our cars.

Hyundai, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, Honda and more are building cars here.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Hyundai, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, Honda and more are building cars here.

Build or assemble?

 

[Orangeburst]

Build or assemble?

What is the difference?
You mean manufacture or assemble?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Hyundai, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan, Honda and more are building cars here.

Also, how many of those mentioned are union?

 

[InVOLuntary]

What is the difference?
You mean manufacture or assemble?

I think a car that is considered American made it has to be made from 51% from American made parts. I think there is a significant difference in a car that gets shipped over here in a box and assemble versus a car that is truly manufactured here. But thats just me.

 

[Orangeburst]

I think a car that is considered American made it has to be made from 51% from American made parts. I think there is a significant difference in a car that gets shipped over here in a box and assemble versus a car that is truly manufactured here. But thats just me.

I know Nissan manufactures engines in Dechard and the Japanese cars are really high on the index. Honda engines in Ohio. The American car companies source a lot from Canada and Mexico. Really just about every plant probably stamps bodies, welds, and everything else is just assembly. Usually when a foreign car mfg builds a new plant, the suppliers build close by. Not sure if these are typically Tier 1.

 

[McDad]

I think a car that is considered American made it has to be made from 51% from American made parts. I think there is a significant difference in a car that gets shipped over here in a box and assemble versus a car that is truly manufactured here. But thats just me.

I think North American and South American parts qualify as American, too.

 

[Orangeburst]

I think North American and South American parts qualify as American, too.

Whenever I get on an Embraer, I wonder if the Brazilians know what they are doing.