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chargervol said:
Says the guy that just claimed breaking down positions and identifying problems is "easier" than just saying "coach!"
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It’s absolutely easier. It’s much easier to change QB’s than it is to change coaches.

And again, I think a change at QB is warranted. But this team should still be 2-0 and that falls at the feet of people on payroll.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
So if our boss gives us a project to do, that is due at the COB. We both have a lot of work to do, but you find a way to finish your part of the project. Unfortunately I don't, but I don't tell you until 4:30. We both get dinged for not finishing the project. Is it your fault or my fault that the project did not get completed?

JG is not carrying his weight. If GSU is the worst team in the country, JG should have been carving that secondary up, but he was not. So is he the worst QB in the country then?
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You just equated 2 people's doing their own separate, individual portions of a project where one person's work has no effect on the other person's work to 2 groups of 11 people (and coaches) doing the same part of a project where each person's work affects the others' work and each groups work affects the other groups work. There is so little that is similar between your analogy and football that it really shouldn't be called an analogy.

JG is bad. He's not our only problem and not even our biggest problem.
 
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RiotVol said:
I just don't understand the sympathy.

If you're working for the communications department at UT, and you've seen the sorry state of sports journalism in Knoxville for decades now, I don't blame them one bit for being risk averse in regards to access to the athletic program. You think that all of the sudden they're going to write positive pieces when their pattern of behavior suggests otherwise? How long has Adams been around? I remember being in college and we had a top 10 program and Adams was STILL looking for any excuse to dump on the program. How long has Hyams been the creepy guy two inches from every player and coach in an interview, who then runs and simply regurgitates what we can all watch on youtube now? How long has Rucker been about Rucker? He was writing the same type of stuff that he wrote in the Beacon when we were undergrads complaining about a sport he never played.

I would tell them all to kick rocks, too.

Ubben's edge is that he actually does analysis, I guess. Would I want him out charting reps, touches, who's not present, etc.? Hell f@#$ing no. Clemson and Alabama can get away with that now because they're media darlings and they don't need every edge they can get to kick the crap out of everyone, and frankly the Tuscaloosa media is probably terrified of Saban and his cult of inbreds.

I'll take it one step further, it's not the job of the athletic department to prop up a bloated, entitled Knoxville sports media.
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meh, i guess cutting off media access because they won't write nice things about you (when its absolutely not deserved over the last 10 years) sounds like some weenie **** to me.
 
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jave36 said:
LOL OK, you're right, we were outmatched in talent.

And putting 14 points on JG is a huge exaggeration. Our defense should never ever allow 3 TD drives of 75+ yards to GA St.

JG is not our only problem.
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Why do that? Don't add additional BS to the reply, respond to what I'm saying...

Point is "worst team in the country" is currently tied for first based on their UNDEFEATED record, and is 25th in total offensive scoring. We didn't play the worst team in the country in the opening game, last season is completely irrelevant to this season so stop with that narrative.

Plenty of merit exist in the 3 TD drives of 75 shouldn't happen, no disagreement there. Regardless of how "young" the team is you'd think the staff & players would be better prepared. Their performance against Georgia State is inexcusable, I don't think JG lost us that game don't put very much blame on him. It's also laughable someone dismisses the fact that our 3 YEAR STARTER QB, can't make simple reads or work progressions against GEORGIA FREAKING STATE. Both of the turnovers he was credited to happened in the 4th quarter as well, it's as inexcusable as the defense & staff not being prepared for Georgia State.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Why do that? Don't add additional BS to the reply, respond to what I'm saying...

Point is "worst team in the country" is currently tied for first based on their UNDEFEATED record, and is 25th in total offensive scoring. We didn't play the worst team in the country in the opening game, last season is completely irrelevant to this season so stop with that narrative.

Plenty of merit exist in the 3 TD drives of 75 shouldn't happen, no disagreement there. Regardless of how "young" the team is you'd think the staff & players would be better prepared. Their performance against Georgia State is inexcusable, I don't think JG lost us that game don't put very much blame on him. It's also laughable someone dismisses the fact that our 3 YEAR STARTER QB, can't make simple reads or work progressions against GEORGIA FREAKING STATE. Both of the turnovers he was credited to happened in the 4th quarter as well, it's as inexcusable as the defense & staff not being prepared for Georgia State.
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I agree JG is bad. I disagree JG is the only or main reason we lost. Fair point about my exaggeration on how bad GA st is.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
Shrout will get a chance before Mauer imo. And I think he is further ahead than coaches let on.
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Personally still think they want to get their 5 set on OL before introducing a new QB. Since despite his lack of want to, I think we all believe JG is the most mobile of the three.
 
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jave36 said:
You just equated 2 people's doing their own separate, individual portions of a project where one person's work has no effect on the other person's work to 2 groups of 11 people (and coaches) doing the same part of a project where each person's work affects the others' work and each groups work affects the other groups work. There is so little that is similar between your analogy and football that it really shouldn't be called an analogy.

JG is bad. He's not our only problem and not even our biggest problem.
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I equated two people working as a team to complete a project that was divided up, to a football team....offense/defense. JG turned the ball over and accounted for points for GSU. Now if he were carving them up because they are the worst team in the country, then you can say that the defense lost us the game. JG was not even putting us in position to score. He didn't give the WR's or RB's opportunities to catch the ball in stride.
 
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jave36 said:
LOL OK, you're right, we were outmatched in talent.

And putting 14 points on JG is a huge exaggeration. Our defense should never ever allow 3 TD drives of 75+ yards to GA St.

JG is not our only problem.
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We were always going to be up and down in the front 7 with the turnover and especially when you lose Gooden and Bituli, and then Thompson. The problem is that a competent QB overcomes that and gets us to 2-0. He may not be the only problem, but if he was better, we would all be happy right now. We aren't going to have perfect teams.
 
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jave36 said:
LOL, if our defense can't hold the worst team in the country to a field goal at least one of those times, then JG is clearly not our only problem.

Why does the QB get so much blame and credit in football? It's the ultimate team sport, but somehow we put all the responsibility on one player more than all the other sports that are actually more dependent on one individual.
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You must be his girlfriend or something.you're literally the only one defending a QB who has thrown 20 touchdowns and 7 interceptions here at the University of Tennessee
“in 3 years!”,average that up👀😂😂. if that’s good enough for you to keep him out there then be content with what’s been force fed to you.what I’m telling you is,if you can’t produce on offense and You’re at a constant 3 and out or just never giving your already super thin Defense rest,then what do you expect?...

A super deep Alabama Defense,Clemson Defense or any deep defense for that matter could only play 3 to 5 straight possessions of going a constant 3 and out.its exhausting especially when your offense doesn’t reward you with points to have something to defend lol which is why they came back.we weren’t scoring even when we easily could have to maintain the lead.

JG wasn’t producing.wether that was missing open wide receivers,throwing into double and even triple coverage.He can’t even read a defense or sniff a blitz lol. what more do you need man? Both offense and defense go hand and hand,it can’t be all defense especially with no results of scoring on offense lol that’s silly.
 
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Another positive from BYU game is seeing Theo Jackson step up. He lead the team in Total tackles with 9 (Henry T, Ignont, Taylor all had 8). Also Bumphus with 2 sacks and being able to flash was promising, Emerson and Taylor both had sacks as well (we're starting to get pressure on the QB). No fumbles from the team either...
 
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Geaux_Vols said:
you're right, its not pruitt's responsibly to hand out press passes, the athletic communications department does. but when access is limited in a way that runs counter to the practices of programs across the country like bama, clemson, and most every other school in the country, does a writer--who was paid to move here with his family to write about tennessee football-- not have a right to be irked his job is made that much harder?

i just don't understand the hostility, that's all.
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He has a preening, John Adams thing going...attempted nice version. I don’t like his style, I think he’s fake as **** and he’s a major reason I don’t subscribe to the Athletic. That’s my take and I don’t have to defend it. Now go make some pretty pics for us on your computer thingamajob. 😏
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Glad you're back. Not sure anyone has suggested firing him, maybe @Kingston Vol? I think he's got two years regardless of his record, especially if recruiting remains decent. My confidence that he'll survive beyond that is very low.
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I had some time before catching a flight. I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion or interfere with other posters' agendas. The team is underachieving and problems abound... but the core of the recruiting class is, amazingly, hanging together. Time to triage. Recruiting is critical, and relationships are what's keeping this current class together. Sever that and everything will freefall. One year at a time.

Hope your mother is as well as she can be, @InVOLuntary.
 
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