Coaching hire not a fire Pruitt thread

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I'm going to try and not make this a tl;dr but I'm sure I'll get a few.

It's always a gamble hiring a new head coach. On top of that, coaching salaries have just become astronomically high. I find it ridiculous that a program has to put up so much guaranteed money up front just to see if the hire will work. And even if the HC has a proven track record, wins aren't guaranteed. (I look at UCLA and Chip Kelly, they had to dish out a ton of guaranteed money for a big name and that's not looking all that great right now.) So my question(s) is/are would hiring a HC based on an incentive model work and do you think a HC would agree to it? Now keep in mind the staff and coordinators remain on a fixed salary so that budget is negotiated before finalizing the contract and these are just arbitrary numbers I'm throwing out just to illustrate the idea. These numbers can obviously be negotiated. Here's the idea:

The base salary is something like 2 million, then for every milestone an incentive is added on.
6 wins and a bowl appearance=500k extra
6 wins and a bowl win=850k extra

The incentive grows with the more wins and bowl appearance/victories. Throw in more incentives for a league championship and NC and a HC could triple his salary and maybe more based on performance.

After let's say a 3 year period, restructure the contract to up the base salary and incentives because if the coach proves to be a winner, you want to put things in place to keep him. Maybe at that point you extent a guaranteed yearly bonus or something as well as upping the staff salaries. Again, all negotiations and these are just the broad strokes of the idea.

Apologies if you feel I'm bringing this up at the wrong time, but with all this coaching talk going on it was on my mind.
 
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It’s irrelevant. Pruitt will be here at least 3 years even if we are 2-10 this year.
 
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Volgrad98 said:
I'm going to try and not make this a tl;dr but I'm sure I'll get a few.

It's always a gamble hiring a new head coach. On top of that, coaching salaries have just become astronomically high. I find it ridiculous that a program has to put up so much guaranteed money up front just to see if the hire will work. And even if the HC has a proven track record, wins aren't guaranteed. (I look at UCLA and Chip Kelly, they had to dish out a ton of guaranteed money for a big name and that's not looking all that great right now.) So my question(s) is/are would hiring a HC based on an incentive model work and do you think a HC would agree to it? Now keep in mind the staff and coordinators remain on a fixed salary so that budget is negotiated before finalizing the contract and these are just arbitrary numbers I'm throwing out just to illustrate the idea. These numbers can obviously be negotiated. Here's the idea:

The base salary is something like 2 million, then for every milestone an incentive is added on.
6 wins and a bowl appearance=500k extra
6 wins and a bowl win=850k extra

The incentive grows with the more wins and bowl appearance/victories. Throw in more incentives for a league championship and NC and a HC could triple his salary and maybe more based on performance.

After let's say a 3 year period, restructure the contract to up the base salary and incentives because if the coach proves to be a winner, you want to put things in place to keep him. Maybe at that point you extent a guaranteed yearly bonus or something as well as upping the staff salaries. Again, all negotiations and these are just the broad strokes of the idea.

Apologies if you feel I'm bringing this up at the wrong time, but with all this coaching talk going on it was on my mind.
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If you thought we scrapped the bottom of the barrel with our last 4 hires, we would hire absolutely no one decent under this model.....
 
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Seems like people avoided the question. Personally I think it would work, best coaches with best players would still make the most money.
 
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Vol_from_86 said:
It’s irrelevant. Pruitt will be here at least 3 years even if we are 2-10 this year.
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I can't see Jeremy Pruitt having his job past 2020 if Tennessee wins 2 games this season and 2-3 in 2020. If he does the fans need to stop coming to Tennessee home games.
 
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Volgrad98 said:
I'm going to try and not make this a tl;dr but I'm sure I'll get a few.

It's always a gamble hiring a new head coach. On top of that, coaching salaries have just become astronomically high. I find it ridiculous that a program has to put up so much guaranteed money up front just to see if the hire will work. And even if the HC has a proven track record, wins aren't guaranteed. (I look at UCLA and Chip Kelly, they had to dish out a ton of guaranteed money for a big name and that's not looking all that great right now.) So my question(s) is/are would hiring a HC based on an incentive model work and do you think a HC would agree to it? Now keep in mind the staff and coordinators remain on a fixed salary so that budget is negotiated before finalizing the contract and these are just arbitrary numbers I'm throwing out just to illustrate the idea. These numbers can obviously be negotiated. Here's the idea:

The base salary is something like 2 million, then for every milestone an incentive is added on.
6 wins and a bowl appearance=500k extra
6 wins and a bowl win=850k extra

The incentive grows with the more wins and bowl appearance/victories. Throw in more incentives for a league championship and NC and a HC could triple his salary and maybe more based on performance.

After let's say a 3 year period, restructure the contract to up the base salary and incentives because if the coach proves to be a winner, you want to put things in place to keep him. Maybe at that point you extent a guaranteed yearly bonus or something as well as upping the staff salaries. Again, all negotiations and these are just the broad strokes of the idea.

Apologies if you feel I'm bringing this up at the wrong time, but with all this coaching talk going on it was on my mind.
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Good luck hiring a HC with that model.
 
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I think the incentives would have to be off the wall. You can’t say “we are going to be the only school out there that instead of giving 5milliom a year guaranteed to coach A, we are going to give 3 and make the next 2 incentive based.” Why would any coach sign on for that?!

It would have to be something like

Coach A likely would command a 4-5 million contract from a Big D1 school, but instead come to UT at 3 million per guaranteed but with bare minimum standards you’ll get the 4.5-5 (like you said 6 wins and a bowl appearance) and then if you get to other levels you could make enough to make yourself the highest paid coach in college football. I’m favt the last incentive could be “Win a national title and you get $1 more than whoever made the most that year.”
 
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No agent would allow their client to sign that. Guarantees is the name of the game. Coaches and agents win, whether anyone else does or not.
 
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