Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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The “staff is disjointed” rumors are a little too convenient for my liking but it makes some sense.

Rocker and Rumph are not here for the long term. Look at their resumes. Not a bad thing necessarily. Just the truth.

Ansley is a new DC being micromanaged by the HC. He signed up for it but their has to be irritation there.

Sherrer took a demotion for no other reason than to bring Ansley in. Yeah, that’s going to piss a normal person off.

Chaney is an irritable guy. Always has been. He might be mad here but he’s been mad everywhere. Explains why he bounces around so much but I’m skeptical it is affecting his performance.

I took a lot of flack for it but Weinke was looking for a way out of here last year. He wanted Alabama to call him badly so he could go back. That didn’t happen and he got moved to a position more natural for him. Maybe that helped.

YAC got moved to a position he’s not as comfortable with to bring in Tee. Much like Sherrer, that would piss a normal person off.

Neids is probably pretty content. Great recruiter - he gets the green light to do whatever he wants there and probably doesn’t have the resume to justify the position coach job that he has. But he’s Pruitt’s guy and every coach has one or two of those on his staff.

Friend has done a bad job, hears the rumors that he’s only here because he was Pruitt’s roommate, and is now being slowly starved out by Chaney. He’s probably real pissed.

I think Tee is pretty happy to be here. But there’s a reason Pruitt had to recruit him to take the job for a couple of weeks. That relationship could be combustible in the future. Right or wrong, Tee thought he should have been a serious candidate for the job Pruitt has currently. If the on field results continue to go poorly, and Pruitt starts to put his hands on the offense, this might get sour.
 
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Here’s the real problem I see, aside from the fact that was the worse loss in history of the university:

recruiting under Pruitt has not been very good under since he was hired. There have been a handful of elite level players and a last year’s class was fine on the whole - but about on par with what Dooley was doing here and less impressive than what Butch, Kiffin and Fulmer were able to do.

Anyway, we’ve all been in agreement that we needed a big step forward to kickstart recruiting. 8 or 9 wins would have done a ton for perception. That’s out the window. We might get to 6 wins. 7 if literally everything went right from here out. (It won’t.)

That type of season - the one that is now a best case scenario - is not a fireable offense. But it doesn’t allow for this recruiting class to flourish. So next year we go into a make or break season for the entire coaching staff - with a tougher schedule - with three very average (by Tennessee standards) recruiting classes.

And this is the best case scenario!
 
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This is so, so much worse than ANY other loss. In the past we were upset when we lost but excited to know the used car salesmen would get fired and we would hire a great coach. There was still hope the program could recover. But nope, we mess it up yet again.

Tennessee will go down as THE worst run program of all time in D1 football.
 
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Feels like I did toward the end of Dooley and Butch, apathetic and over it ... 1 year and 1 game in.

18 and 19 years old kids need leadership, consistency. Listing “or” all over the depth chart and trying to define your team in game 1 is a pure lack of leadership.

Morris and Wright should not cross training across the offensive line. They should be mastering left and right tackle everyday. They should have ownership in those positions.

The lack of leadership, consistency, and guidance drove what we saw yesterday. Players sense this, are misled, are confused and thus you get the result from yesterday. A consistent o line yesterday, even if not the year long solution, would have yielded position ownership and better results. Instead we had chaos due to leadership indecision.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Here’s the real problem I see, aside from the fact that was the worse loss in history of the university:

recruiting under Pruitt has not been very good under since he was hired. There have been a handful of elite level players and a last year’s class was fine on the whole - but about on par with what Dooley was doing here and less impressive than what Butch, Kiffin and Fulmer were able to do.

Anyway, we’ve all been in agreement that we needed a big step forward to kickstart recruiting. 8 or 9 wins would have done a ton for perception. That’s out the window. We might get to 6 wins. 7 if literally everything went right from here out. (It won’t.)

That type of season - the one that is now a best case scenario - is not a fireable offense. But it doesn’t allow for this recruiting class to flourish. So next year we go into a make or break season for the entire coaching staff - with a tougher schedule - with three very average (by Tennessee standards) recruiting classes.

And this is the best case scenario!
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The issue is you are delaying the inevitable if you see the lack of recruiting. Best make decision now because the long term is already made without talent. Creates an even worse culture in program in the long run.
 
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98nostalgia said:
JG played fine. Is he the alpha dog I would prefer at QB. No but you cant put the loss on him. This loss is solely on the coaching staff. Pruitt said he was gonna play a lot of guys this game and he did. I would have done the same thing assuming we were gonna win. Problem is we were here for a scrimmage. They were here to win. Do NOT put this on JG. Honestly the best thing we could do to win is put JJ in the single wing lol. This is the worst loss I can remember but DO NOT put this on on one single player that works his butt off for us fans
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He may work his butt off but has zero awareness. Slide before first down, quick checkdowns, no idea where blitz is coming. Certainly it’s not all in him, but he got better protection than last year.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
I wanted tee during the last coaching search. I truly believe this program will only be back when a Tennessee guy takes over.
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Randy Sanders earns a new contract with ETSU Bucs football

i absolutely don't care what his reputation was before the abyss. we were all spoiled rotten on winning and took good coaching for granted. I think Randy qualifies as local, how's Morristown? He's a Vol. Is it ok if he flashes that Orange Nat Ring?
 
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MemphisVol3 said:
If we beat BYU, UTC, and miraculously beat Florida, all will be forgotten...maybe...
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VolSummitt44 said:
No it will not.
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Frankly, I'd rather beat Florida and BYU than GA State. Ugly loss for sure, but beating Florida would make everything alright. Not expecting that to happen at this point, but it would certainly show that this team has fight in them after an embarrassing opener.
 
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I’ve written a number of posts since last night and haven’t been able to actually post any of them. It doesn’t matter because somebody else has already said about anything anyone could say after yesterday.

I said a couple weeks ago I wasn’t worried about our players; I was more concerned about our coaches. Earlier last week I said I thought the defense would be key to our season and we were starting out in the hole.

I’m shocked and (using Nigel’s word) flabbergasted.

I don’t think Jeremy knows what he’s doing. I really don’t. I think he is in over his head but he has a really huge ego and no matter how many times he looks in the mirror or pseudo takes responsibility he’s still going to do things his way. jmo.

How do you recover from something like this?

I would find the absolute minimum number of players required on each side of the ball that I could trust the most and that I had some hope that they still had some trust in me. It probably wouldn’t be more than 15 guys on each side. Those are the guys I’d prepare with and those are the guys I’d play with. Everyone else could watch or quit if they wanted to. As the season progressed we might have another 3 or 4 players step up to join that first group but I’d start with the least number to begin with.

One last thing. We’re not going to quit. Not you and me. I mean we’re so upset right now we could each probably rip a gate off its hinges. Side note – be careful about any verbal threats. Some of us may take a couple hours off or maybe even a couple of days but almost everyone will still be here next week and beyond. We are Tennessee and even though we’re embarrassed and perhaps disgusted beyond belief right now we’re not really going to give up. We never do. Not the fans. Not you or me. jmo.
 
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nashvol1 said:
The issue is you are delaying the inevitable if you see the lack of recruiting. Best make decision now because the long term is already made without talent. Creates an even worse culture in program in the long run.
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It wouldn't matter, we could bring in Neyland himself as the head coach and he would immediately turn to complete **** just like every other coach that comes here.
 
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We're n a real pickle. Financially it will be hard to fire him after this year. In addition, if we did, we get the dreaded reputation of not giving him a chance with other coaches. But maybe the alternative is worse. Recruiting tanks, attendance tanks, players transfer, worse next season, no players for the new coach. Have to roll the dice again on a very risky hire. No hope, no end in sight. Tennessee football s really dead.
 
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