Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[tnhunter 10]

Does anyone have ESPN+? Just saw where you can get a package deal for Hulu, ESPN+ and the new Disney+ for $12.99. I have Direc TV now, assuming I can get live sports with that package, then I may have to switch.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I've handled too many Divorces, Domestic Assault cases, Orders of Protection, Restraining Orders, and even represented college football players for alleged serious criminal offenses and in University administrative hearings. We secured an acquittal just last year for a young man who, just before his senior season of football, was charged with statutory rape, whom was completely innocent of the charges. The good news, we beat the charge. The bad news, his name is all over the internet and he was kicked off the football team immediately, though even the school even found he committed no offense.

PLEASE let the people whose job it is to make these decisions do their jobs. PLEASE don't take something someone wrote or typed in a legal pleading or statement as truth or fact, and surely don't perpetuate it over social media or public forums.

The amount of people walking around you each day who have (1) been charged with a Domestic Assault, or (2) had an Order of Protection filed against them, or (3) AGREED to or were ORDERED to obey a Mutual Restraining Order would blow your mind. Sometimes, especially when people are young, immature, emotionally-charged and alcohol fueled, people don't get along and shouldn't be around each other. Relationships can be toxic. On the other hand, sometimes generally good people make isolated mistakes and regret things they've done or said to people they truly care about. I guess I need to say it - I am not saying it's EVER ok or excusable to commit domestic assault. Those who do should be punished. Those who are victims should be assisted in any way that benefits them.

No one on this board was present when this incident occurred. The media doesn't know exactly what happened either. It infuriates me when media and others rush to judgement or to be the first or strongest voice against (enter social topic of the day) without having the facts. People often ignore the words "charged/alleged/according to _______" and only see the alleged actions.

My biggest hope, other than for the well-being and rehabilitation (if needed) of the parties involved, is that the decision-makers (District Attorney, Judge, Administration at UT) treat Bryce the same as if you or I were presenting with a clean criminal record charged with a misdemeanor at his age. At worst, he should be placed on diversion, do some probation, anger management, community service, restitution for the gate, fines/court costs, and assuming he does those things, his charges would be dismissed and his record expunged.

That's what would happen with John Doe UT Sophomore. Let's hope the DA or UT Student Affairs don't get on a power trip and treat him differently because his names is in the news or on their timeline and because people care more than normal what happens to him because he's good at football.

Thank you!

 

[SLICKYINC]

Intangibles played a big part in out 2 big wins against Auburn & KY last year. I believe we had a bye week before Auburn and they had a bunch of locker room turmoil going on when we played them. KY had just come off that miracle win against Mizzou and took us lightly (even though we beat them every year).

This year MSU and KY have bye weeks before our game which is not good for us.

Those teams lost to much too either the draft or suspensions. A buy week isn't going to change the outcome of either of those game. They are gonna get dragged.

 

[rocktopper16]

 

[drvenner]

New one, or the expired one in SC that Knox News decided to bring up for the story?

The latter. It is relevant because it does speak to history.

 

[chargervol]

Those teams lost to much too either the draft or suspensions. A buy week isn't going to change the outcome of either of those game. They are gonna get dragged.

Plus, on last years wins, no one can use turmoil and loss of production as an excuse against us

 

[UTSuave’]

Bama will probably be starting two FR at ILB now.

Boy!..Missing out on Henry T is a swift kickin to sabans nuts right now......oh well

 

[Sleegro]

Just a little perspective on the perception of our roster losses this camp. So far we've lost Gooden, I guess we technically got one back in Garland, and Buchanon. We'll see about Bryce. Which is less than we've had at this point in camp in years. Texas was down to 2 RBs due to injuries in camp to 3 of their scholarship RBs and one walkon that they like a lot, so they had to move their highly ranked true freshman qb to RB to start the season so they could have 3. Which leaves them with only 2 scholarship qbs right now. One of the RBs, 4 star 2019 signee Derrian Brown had a stroke in January and it's not for sure he will ever play again. They also lost another 2019 highly rated signee in 4 star LB De'Gabriel Floyd, who was diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis earlier this year and will be out for at least the season. This hasn't affected their hype much and maybe it won't affect them much. There's probably teams that have had even worse luck this preseason, I just have to hear about Texas all the time. Personally I think they're overrated right now because they surprised in the bowl game. They lost a ton of production to the draft and graduation. They have a good qb though which can cover some of that up. But they basically lost their whole front 7 on defense. I'm actually thinking about betting some of my longhorn friends on this opening game vs LA Tech. I think there's a real solid chance for an upset there.

 

[UT_King]

Does anyone have ESPN+? Just saw where you can get a package deal for Hulu, ESPN+ and the new Disney+ for $12.99. I have Direc TV now, assuming I can get live sports with that package, then I may have to switch.

ESPN+ doesn't include most of the live sports you'll be interested in. Also, this includes Hulu's basic streaming service (with ads) that doesn't touch Prime or Netflix content.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Boy!..Missing out on Henry T is a swift kickin to sabans nuts right now......oh well

Everyone in the country is hoping for a down year out of Bama. Recruiting is already starting to take a hit with several teams pulling in what would have been Bama locks a coupe of seasons ago.

Hate it for em...

 

[chargervol]

Just a little perspective on the perception of our roster losses this camp. So far we've lost Gooden, I guess we technically got one back in Garland, and Buchanon. We'll see about Bryce. Which is less than we've had at this point in camp in years. Texas was down to 2 RBs due to injuries in camp to 3 of their scholarship RBs and one walkon that they like a lot, so they had to move their highly ranked true freshman qb to RB to start the season so they could have 3. Which leaves them with only 2 scholarship qbs right now. One of the RBs, 4 star 2019 signee Derrian Brown had a stroke in January and it's not for sure he will ever play again. They also lost another 2019 highly rated signee in 4 star LB De'Gabriel Floyd, who was diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis earlier this year and will be out for at least the season. This hasn't affected their hype much and maybe it won't affect them much. There's probably teams that have had even worse luck this preseason, I just have to hear about Texas all the time. Personally I think they're overrated right now because they surprised in the bowl game. They lost a ton of production to the draft and graduation. They have a good qb though which can cover some of that up. But they basically lost their whole front 7 on defense. I'm actually thinking about betting some of my longhorn friends on this opening game vs LA Tech. I think there's a real solid chance for an upset there.

"Liked" for the effort but man I hate hearing about so many kids with terrible medical issues.

A stroke, that's just awful.

 

[HankHill]

Maybe, but there's panic every year and the other 2 couldn't pull off an initial hire.

I just think using the rule “coach A got a job before coach B or something a long those line ” is a poor measuring scale. There’s so many variables to it and no one really knows what goes on behind the scenes and how badly said coaches are trying for particular jobs.

Is Bobby Petrino lesser of a coach than some because he is currently unemployed?
Hell willie taggert keeps getting jobs somehow.

 

[chargervol]

I just think using the rule “coach A got a job before coach B or something a long those line ” is a poor measuring scale. There’s so many variables to it and no one really knows what goes on behind the scenes and how badly said coaches are trying for particular jobs.

Is Bobby Petrino lesser of a coach than some because he is currently unemployed?
Hell willie taggert keeps getting jobs somehow.

All started, as you pointed out, that guy kicked our guys arses even when our talent was performing better.
Sums it up nicely I'd say.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

6.2 wins puts us at 6.2 wins, 5.8 losses. Or even 5.9 losses. I know FPI gave us 7.6 wins and 4.5 losses (12.1 total games), giving us a very small chance to get to Atlanta. Not 6-6. Just probabilities, he isn't rounding trying to give a black and white prediction. Just like before when his model had us at 6.5 wins, it didn't mean 6-6 or 7-5, it just means what it says.

Individual games aren't given binary outcomes in these projections, just given percentages. I'd imagine a fair number of our games are within the range of being a "toss up" 40-60% win probability.

That was such a pointless reply Devo....you can't win .2 of a game lol

6.5 = 7 wins
6.2 = 6 wins

Don't muddy it up over probability when real world application is whole numbers only.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

 

[Devo182]

Missouri benefiting from the softest SOS is likely why they are projecting near at 8.6 (which ties them at 4th in the SEC).

You can say that again.

Wyoming
WVU (total rebuild and new coach)
SEMO
USC
TROY
Ole Miss!!
Vandy
UK
UGA
UF
UT
Arkansas!!

Could well be 8-0 heading into Athens (we could too with this schedule)...

 

[butchna]

Does anyone have ESPN+? Just saw where you can get a package deal for Hulu, ESPN+ and the new Disney+ for $12.99. I have Direc TV now, assuming I can get live sports with that package, then I may have to switch.

Daughter got me a year subscription for Father’s Day. It’s not really a streaming bonanza.

 

[Sleegro]

"Liked" for the effort but man I hate hearing about so many kids with terrible medical issues.

A stroke, that's just awful.

Yeah kinda crazy. And Floyd was getting talked about as starting LB this season before the Spinal Stenosis was diagnosed.

 

[BruinVol]

What was this on?

 

[SweetasSoda]

Plenty of people have said stuff like, "nothing to see here," "make him run some stairs," "he said, she said" These types of statements mean they don't think it's a serious offense. It is.

What exactly are you saying is a serious offense?

 

[chargervol]

Pruitt gon learn.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

The latter. It is relevant because it does speak to history.

I'm not sure what a mutual restraining order is, legally speaking. I just find it odd to bring it up now, did the same "news" outlet harp on it in April 2018 BEFORE he arrived on campus?

I dislike selective reporting...and I'm generally asking why they didn't report this order when it was active?

 

[Ron Swanson]

My dad just had a 75" installed this past Monday. 75" lol

I have room for 75in and have been thinking of moving my 65 upstairs into living room and getting a 75. Wife might not get as excited as me though!

 

[Sleegro]

I have room for 75in and have been thinking of moving my 65 upstairs into living room and getting a 75. Wife might not get as excited as me though!

I support the Jerry Jones philosophy. Decide how big you want yer tv, then build a structure big enough to hold it.

 

[SLICKYINC]

That's our media for you. Sad.