Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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We all know ratings are flawed, but chew on this:



Calculated Florida's class on 247 minus the 5 already out and Wardrick Wilson (who can't get a visa)...

252.45, good for 16th place



Calculated UT's class on 247 estimating the addition of Solomon and Gibbs (equivalent HS ratings)...

286.00, good for 4th place




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17th* but one spot doesn't matter
Also, I used Solomon and Gibbs transfer rating (which is more accurate based on their college careers, they aren't in HS anymore) but adding two HS players that have the same rating as their transfer rating and getting rid of Harris put us at 275.75, which is 10th.
 
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I know many fans & media types seem to think wide receiver is our strongest position group on the team this year but the more I pay attention the more I think it’s going to be our running back room. We have four guys in Chandler, Jordan, Banks, and Gray that could be hot on any given Saturday. That’s having options. Having our QB, O-Line, and running backs on the same page is I think going to do wonders for our offense. The two most defining elements of being successful in the SEC is the ability to run the ball on offense and the ability to stop the run on defense. It’s the reason behind the oft cited descriptor, “line of scrimmage league.”

We’ve heard a lot of good things about Gray. He’s mature. He has a tremendous work ethic. He’s a true professional. He has tremendous talent. When he was recovering from shoulder surgery in the spring he was spending time before and after practice working on learning protections, the playbook, and recognizing and understanding his keys. His work ethic in particular reminds me of Rondale Moore, Freshman all-American at Purdue last year that amassed over 2,000 all-purpose yards as a true freshman. Big 10 freshman of the year.

Earlier this week, Bituli talked about how To’oto’o convinced the coaches to get the linebacker room to set up a group chat so he could start learning the defense while he was still in California. After the spring game Darnell Wright bemoaned the fact that he hadn’t taken the early enrollee route.

Justifiably, most folks will want to temper expectations for true freshmen, but from what I can see, from the enthusiasm of Jeremy Banks to almost every other single level of our football team, the younger guys and guys who have sort of been lost on the depth chart are pushing the older more established guys and they are pushing hard. Morris, Calbert, and Wright are pushing the offensive linemen, Brandon Johnson, Tyler Byrd, Jordan Murphy, and Jacquez Jones, even Ramel Keyton are pushing the older receivers. Emerson, Simmons, and Bumphus are pushing the guys on the D-Line. To’oto’o, Crouch, Harrison, & Reid are pushing the linebackers. Burrell and McCollough are pushing the defensive backs.

We have two young QBs pushing each other and according to PFF a returning QB that is one of the best in the conference. Almost everyone praises Guarantano as being smart and tough. Last year it was said he was handcuffed with kid gloves. Ainge said earlier this fall that an OC is fortunate if he gets 60% of his play calls correct. With a good smart QB able to switch the play after he comes to the line of scrimmage, even if he is only right half of the time he boosts the OC’s percentage numbers up to 80%. Guarantano spoke this week about the improved communication between him and the offensive line, an obvious necessity if he’s changing plays and we want everyone to be on the same page.

If you total up all the “effort” time in a football game it’s going to come out to around 7 minutes on each side of the ball. (Remember Freak’s cut ups of game films with a video showing all offensive plays and a separate video showing all defensive plays). Those 7 minutes are going to come in about 70 bites of approximately 6 seconds each. Callaway explained in his interview this week that in regards to consistency we don’t have a problem with the first 30 or 40 bites of that 7 minutes but it’s being able to sustain our focus on doing things the right way when we get a bit banged up or tired that is going to define how consistent and how mentally tough we are as a football team. I would suggest that having fresh guys (depth) that we can roll out there in every position group during a game without expecting a drop-off in performance is also likely going to make us more consistent.

ESPN, Phil Steele, and Bill Connelly, among others, expect us to be one of the most improved teams in all of college football this year. While those analysts are basing their expectations on the tangibles they can capture with their prediction models, my expectations are only reinforced by the intangibles we are discovering with this team, from the younger guys, to the almost forgotten guys, to the quality changes that have occurred with our staff since we last were on the field. ESPN, in explaining their FPI, states that humans and pollsters have a hard time divorcing themselves from prior won-loss records. Pruitt, his staff, and his players refuse to talk about last year. This is a new team and the energy is real. I can feel it and I hope you can too. jmo.
Thanks again for another great post. I didn't know that about HT! I was wondering how it was possible that he knew the defense so well already. I bet the group chat will continue.
 
17th* but one spot doesn't matter
Also, I used Solomon and Gibbs transfer rating (which is more accurate based on their college careers, they aren't in HS anymore) but adding two HS players that have the same rating as their transfer rating and getting rid of Harris put us at 275.75, which is 9th.

Nice. Did similar pre Harris and we were 7th, I think 8th if adding other teams' transfers. I believe OSU may jump us if you add their transfers. Top 10 without Harris is dang impressive.

247 is supposed to roll out separate rankings that include transfers in the future. Still waiting on that though. Like the team talent page, I don't get why these aren't automated...
 
Time to start the narrative that Mullen doesn’t have kids interest at heart. He is selfish and put these kids in a situation that could damage their career by giving them false hope for his recruiting ranking. Mullen is a snake lol

On a serious note, thank goodness we aren’t in that situation. It would be devastating to not have gotten in that many players.
 
17th* but one spot doesn't matter
Also, I used Solomon and Gibbs transfer rating (which is more accurate based on their college careers, they aren't in HS anymore) but adding two HS players that have the same rating as their transfer rating and getting rid of Harris put us at 275.75, which is 10th.
I thought about calculating their transfer ratings, but that opens Pandora's box. If we get into that, then let's talk about the reports of this class having "zero misses" and several steals. Looking back, I believe we will all say this was a top 5 class regardless of rankings.



(bookmarks post for OCI-style bump in 4 years)
 
Time to start the narrative that Mullen doesn’t have kids interest at heart. He is selfish and put these kids in a situation that could damage their career by giving them false hope for his recruiting ranking. Mullen is a snake lol

On a serious note, thank goodness we aren’t in that situation. It would be devastating to not have gotten in that many players.
Could you imagine if we had hired Mehlen and that was happening here. Man how awful.
 
The 6 UF signees already out are Steele, Black, Henderson, Black, Hammond and Jalon Jones with Wilson still waiting correct?

That's their top signee, 4 of their top 10, and 6 (7 if Wilson can't get a visa) of their 17 4*s.

It isn't just that they're having a ton of attrition from that class. It's a lot of their best prospects too.
 
I'm missing someone. I read that UF is down 6 people from 2019. Who's the 6th? I thought it was Wardrick Wilson, the OL, but according to his twitter he qualified and is all gators.


2018 Malik Langham SDE, transferred to Vanderbilt (.8975 composite)
2018 Noah Banks OT, medical retire (.8871 composite)
2018 Johnny Huggins safety, dismissed (.8858 composite)

2019 Chris Steele, CB, transferred to USC (.9782 composite)
2019 Arjei Henderson WR, JUCO (.9395 composite)
2019 Diwan Black, ILB, JUCO (.9356 composite)
2019 Deyavie Hammond, OL, JUCO (.9104 composite)
2019 Jalon Jones, QB, dismissed (.9001 composite)

Additionally
2018 4 star WR Jacob Copeland missed almost all of 2018 with hamstring injuries
2018 4 star OLB David Reese to miss 2019 with a torn achilles
2019 4 star CB Jaydon Hill is coming off a torn ACL


***UPDATED***AGAIN****
 
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The 6 UF signees already out are Steele, Black, Henderson, Black, Hammond and Jalon Jones with Wilson still waiting correct?

That's their top signee, 4 of their top 10, and 6 (7 if Wilson can't get a visa) of their 17 4*s.

It isn't just that they're having a ton of attrition from that class. It's a lot of their best prospects too.

So in other words.Great News👀😭😂😂 I just hope it’s the beginning of the same curse we’ve had for the past 10 years.🤞🏽
 
I hope Florida loses this week, loses to us, and loses every game they ever play again. I hope they suck so bad that they cancel their football program only to come back ETSU style to Neyland as a pay game so we can wipe their sorry tails all over the field in embarrassing fashion.
I feel it’s appropriate to bump my post from last year to reiterate my true feelings for Florida.
 
I'm missing someone. I read that UF is down 6 people from 2019. Who's the 6th? I thought it was Wardrick Wilson, the OL, but according to his twitter he qualified and is all gators.


2018 Malik Langham SDE, transferred to Vanderbilt (.8975 composite)
2018 Noah Banks OT, medical retire (.8871 composite)
2018 Johnny Huggins safety, dismissed (.8858 composite)

2019 Chris Steele, CB, transferred to USC (.9782 composite)
2019 Arjei Henderson WR, JUCO (.9395 composite)
2019 Diwan Black, ILB, JUCO (.9356 composite)
2019 Deyavie Hammond, OL, JUCO (.9104 composite)
2019 Jalon Jones, QB, dismissed (.9001 composite)

Additionally
2018 4 star WR Jacob Copeland missed almost all of 2018 with hamstring injuries
2018 4 star OLB David Reese to miss 2019 with a torn achilles
2019 4 star CB Jaydon Hill is coming off a torn ACL


***UPDATED***AGAIN****

I’m just not getting my hopes up over stuff like that. There’s been so many times where Florida was going through crap and we thought it would really hurt them, game time shows up and we get clapped.
 
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