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volatil said:
Alright guys I’m back. Just completed 31 12 hour shifts in 5.5 weeks.

Ready for football now. No more extra shifts this year.

Love hearing about young players. This defense has potential. Definitely need Solomon cleared. Area 51 bout to get tested early. Can tell Pruitt likes his LBs. DBs are solid.
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Earning that extra money so you can be our middle Tennessee bagman. I’ll allow it
 
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Jack Burton said:
Wow, 13 stones. Is the cause hereditary, or diet related, or both?
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I know it will be hard to believe but I've had probably 70 at least in my lifetime. I had my first at 19 and had them my entire life. Still have them to this day. My sister had them, my mom and her mom before her so hereditary is a factor.
When I was having the most of them was when insurance would deny pre-existing conditions. I had to go 1 yr without an issue and that just didn't happen. Remember many times trying to tought it out attempting to get that year.
So I empathize with those dealing with stones!#
 
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I’m optimistic about our DL. Losing Gooden is a big blow but there’s still talent there. John Mincey looked really good before he broke his arm last year. Emerson was a top 100 player out of high school but unfortunately broke his ankle. Reports out of camp are that he’s recovered and looking good. According to the VQ article today the coaching staff believe that Kingston Harris is a day 2 draft pick. Then we have Solomon if eligible and Area 51 who, if nothing else can be a run stuffer. Then there’s the juco guys who, if they just give us what Gooden did last year that will be very helpful. So we won’t be elite there but we have talent. I think we’ll be bette than last year at that position.
 
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Why are some analysts and commentators hyping JG for a breakout year?

A few weeks ago I shared some analysis by Jesse Simonton from a couple articles he wrote back in May using the PFF database. In one of those articles he provides a table that shows the differences between some of the returning QBs in the SEC based on how long they hold onto the ball. All quarterbacks have a higher rating if they held onto the ball less than 2.5 seconds. JG was among the best in this regard. Things begin to significantly break down for absolutely every one of the QBs when they hold onto the ball for more than 2.5 seconds.

I was thinking about this while looking at a table of all the NFL QBs from last season from NextGen Stats covering things like time to throw, in air yards, and completed yards. It’s just a sense that I have but I sort of thought that JG’s best passing plays last year were in the air for more than 20 yards. Most see those passes, especially the deep throws, as 50/50 balls, at least at the college level.

Almost every QB in the SEC is going to have his highest completion percentage in the short passing game, which coincidentally, typically doesn’t require the offensive line to provide all that much time for a QB in the pocket. Most receivers, running backs, and tight ends have a very limited distance they can run down the field in under 2.5 seconds.

Some fans have thrown cold water on some of the stats that PFF has posted showing things like JG being one of the better QBs in the country last year when under pressure. Almost everyone, it seems, recognizes the physical toll JG paid over the course of the season in trying to push the ball down the field.

My conclusion is that in the absence of the offensive line providing the necessary time for our longer passing plays to develop JG took it on himself to try to squeeze as much extra time for his receivers as he could manage and according to PFF, few QBs in all of college football could do that better than him.

I think this may have a lot to do with some of the analysts thinking JG is poised to have a breakout year. He’s more experienced. Presumably, he’ll be in a more intelligent scheme. Also, our receivers are more experienced and Tee Martin should have them running crisper routes and hopefully their yards after catch will improve. The probabilities, I think, are pretty decent that our offensive line will be some measure better than last year. As an added bonus, if we can stretch the field with a little more consistency it could do wonders for our running game.

It will be interesting to see how all the pieces come together this year for our offense but I’m thinking the least of our concerns, other than from a health standpoint, is JG. jmo.

From Simonton’s article:

Notably, Guarantano was very efficient as a play-action passer a year ago, posting nearly identical numbers to Fromm, in fact.

Considering Georgia’s success running the ball, it’s wild that Guarantano actually threw the ball more often (percentage per attempt) off play-action than Fromm. Guarantano was better off play-action than several other of his SEC cohorts too, including Jake Bentley, Kellen Mond and Joe Borrow.

Tennessee’s veteran quarterback is clearly most comfortable throwing off play-fakes, as it naturally simplifies the throwing windows with only a couple available targets. Tennessee’s protection was typically better on those plays, too.

After the spring game, Guarantano, who wasn’t very satisfied with his performance that day, again noted that he’s comfortable in Chaney’s offense but admitted he needs the summer to “master it.”

“We’re focused on more explosive plays,” he said. “We want to be able to get the ball up and down the field.”

For Tennessee’s offense to do that, it needs its quarterback to be more efficient on standard throws.

Now, protection is a component in all this, and one of the reasons Guarantano graded out as the SEC’s second-best quarterback last season was his work under pressure.

Despite getting sacked on 22.7 percent of his drops-backs when facing pressure (the highest among the quarterbacks listed), Guarantano had the best completion percentage (52.9) of the bunch.
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Vols410 said:
Henry To gonna be a starter at ILB by the Florida game. Bituli is locked in but I think he passes the Ignont/Reid duo.
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Pruitt rotated 4 ILBs last year in games. IMO Bituli, Ignont, Reid, and Henry T will be the 4 man game rotation this year. If one of them gets injured, maybe JJP can crack the rotation. Pruitt will need at least 1 of the 2 ILBs in the game to be capable of calling plays .. so his comment about Henry T being able to do that is a big plus for him.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Why are some analysts and commentators hyping JG for a breakout year?

A few weeks ago I shared some analysis by Jesse Simonton from a couple articles he wrote back in May using the PFF database. In one of those articles he provides a table that shows the differences between some of the returning QBs in the SEC based on how long they hold onto the ball. All quarterbacks have a higher rating if they held onto the ball less than 2.5 seconds. JG was among the best in this regard. Things begin to significantly break down for absolutely every one of the QBs when they hold onto the ball for more than 2.5 seconds.

I was thinking about this while looking at a table of all the NFL QBs from last season from NextGen Stats covering things like time to throw, in air yards, and completed yards. It’s just a sense that I have but I sort of thought that JG’s best passing plays last year were in the air for more than 20 yards. Most see those passes, especially the deep throws, as 50/50 balls, at least at the college level.

Almost every QB in the SEC is going to have his highest completion percentage in the short passing game, which coincidentally, typically doesn’t require the offensive line to provide all that much time for a QB in the pocket. Most receivers, running backs, and tight ends have a very limited distance they can run down the field in under 2.5 seconds.

Some fans have thrown cold water on some of the stats that PFF has posted showing things like JG being one of the better QBs in the country last year when under pressure. Almost everyone, it seems, recognizes the physical toll JG paid over the course of the season in trying to push the ball down the field.

My conclusion is that in the absence of the offensive line providing the necessary time for our longer passing plays to develop JG took it on himself to try to squeeze as much extra time for his receivers as he could manage and according to PFF, few QBs in all of college football could do that better than him.

I think this may have a lot to do with some of the analysts thinking JG is poised to have a breakout year. He’s more experienced. Presumably, he’ll be in a more intelligent scheme. Also, our receivers are more experienced and Tee Martin should have them running crisper routes and hopefully their yards after catch will improve. The probabilities, I think, are pretty decent that our offensive line will be some measure better than last year. As an added bonus, if we can stretch the field with a little more consistency it could do wonders for our running game.

It will be interesting to see how all the pieces come together this year for our offense but I’m thinking the least of our concerns, other than from a health standpoint, is JG. jmo.

From Simonton’s article:
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All that to say our OLine did in fact suck last year lol
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Why are some analysts and commentators hyping JG for a breakout year?

A few weeks ago I shared some analysis by Jesse Simonton from a couple articles he wrote back in May using the PFF database. In one of those articles he provides a table that shows the differences between some of the returning QBs in the SEC based on how long they hold onto the ball. All quarterbacks have a higher rating if they held onto the ball less than 2.5 seconds. JG was among the best in this regard. Things begin to significantly break down for absolutely every one of the QBs when they hold onto the ball for more than 2.5 seconds.

I was thinking about this while looking at a table of all the NFL QBs from last season from NextGen Stats covering things like time to throw, in air yards, and completed yards. It’s just a sense that I have but I sort of thought that JG’s best passing plays last year were in the air for more than 20 yards. Most see those passes, especially the deep throws, as 50/50 balls, at least at the college level.

Almost every QB in the SEC is going to have his highest completion percentage in the short passing game, which coincidentally, typically doesn’t require the offensive line to provide all that much time for a QB in the pocket. Most receivers, running backs, and tight ends have a very limited distance they can run down the field in under 2.5 seconds.

Some fans have thrown cold water on some of the stats that PFF has posted showing things like JG being one of the better QBs in the country last year when under pressure. Almost everyone, it seems, recognizes the physical toll JG paid over the course of the season in trying to push the ball down the field.

My conclusion is that in the absence of the offensive line providing the necessary time for our longer passing plays to develop JG took it on himself to try to squeeze as much extra time for his receivers as he could manage and according to PFF, few QBs in all of college football could do that better than him.

I think this may have a lot to do with some of the analysts thinking JG is poised to have a breakout year. He’s more experienced. Presumably, he’ll be in a more intelligent scheme. Also, our receivers are more experienced and Tee Martin should have them running crisper routes and hopefully their yards after catch will improve. The probabilities, I think, are pretty decent that our offensive line will be some measure better than last year. As an added bonus, if we can stretch the field with a little more consistency it could do wonders for our running game.

It will be interesting to see how all the pieces come together this year for our offense but I’m thinking the least of our concerns, other than from a health standpoint, is JG. jmo.

From Simonton’s article:
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great stuff. aside from the numbers of it all, which imo the numbers you share kinda back this up, one of the things i couldn't help but think last year is that JG almost had an expectation of getting hit more times than not, and that affected some of his perceived "poor play", especially in terms of trying to hold the ball just a tad longer and make something happen.

which, he had good reason to, especially early on. there were busts in protections--the reasons for the busts in protection are varied....did JG call or check to the correct ones? did the OL/RB or TE just whiff? Did the OL not call the right protection?--i'm sure they all would apply at various points, especially during the WVU and FL games.....

but that kind of set the tone, and i think it probably affected how he viewed what his role had to be, especially as he watched a lot of those 1st and 2nd down runs go for nothing or minus yards.

anyway....i think the upgrades on teh offensive side of the staff, a "better" OL and WR's that have experience, TE and RB's that have experience, and JG have more command of the offense will pay dividends this fall. what that translates to in terms of w/l's i don't know.

but i don't expect to see the offense look like it did the first month of last season. not at all.

with Chaney at the helm, i think the biggest gains we'll be able to notice for the OL is whether or not our run game ever gets going.....i do think the passing game overall will be better....but we're gonna have to prove we can throw it efficiently.
 
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BruinVol said:
Wait danny Kennell thinks a player that quit halfway thru the season deserved a national title ring?

If so that’s the dumbest thing I have ever heard
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He is such a homer that he is always trying for ways to take shots at FSU rivals or Any opposing conference to the ACC. One of the worst out there
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I’m optimistic about our DL. Losing Gooden is a big blow but there’s still talent there. John Mincey looked really good before he broke his arm last year. Emerson was a top 100 player out of high school but unfortunately broke his ankle. Reports out of camp are that he’s recovered and looking good. According to the VQ article today the coaching staff believe that Kingston Harris is a day 2 draft pick. Then we have Solomon if eligible and Area 51 who, if nothing else can be a run stuffer. Then there’s the juco guys who, if they just give us what Gooden did last year that will be very helpful. So we won’t be elite there but we have talent. I think we’ll be bette than last year at that position.
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I agree Bass. Good post. It's not a depth issue, it's experience we're lacking. We have plenty of DL on the team, they just need to practice, get better, and go play. And I have faith in our coaching staff and S&C coaches that these kids will play to the best of their ability. And with the DB group looking very good and extremely talented on the backend it'll help the DL greatly.

I'm looking forward to watching our ballhawking defense cause way more turnovers than we're used to which will allow the offense short fields to work with. Getting close to kickoff, boys!
 
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volatil said:
Alright guys I’m back. Just completed 31 12 hour shifts in 5.5 weeks.

Ready for football now. No more extra shifts this year.

Love hearing about young players. This defense has potential. Definitely need Solomon cleared. Area 51 bout to get tested early. Can tell Pruitt likes his LBs. DBs are solid.
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How many 5 hour energy drinks did you consume?
 
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Vols4us said:
Then you will be fully rested for the 4-game series with the Cubbies starting tonight. Relevance in August - 2013 was the most recent season for that to happen.
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I like you as a poster and you seem like a good man.

I pretty much hate me some Cincinnati Reds, though.
 
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