Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Brillovol]

Most likely posts on this board.

Gucci til it ain’t. The whole “move back to Tennessee” is just a diversionary tactic.

 

[Orangeredblooded]

Am I wrong in that the melt down was worse, before we found out Gooden officially out, than after?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Clearly you were a Dooley fan

Watch your language!

 

[Aesius]

Nope Butch woulda still butched it.

We should have won both games either way.

Agreed but Gaulden and Maggitt would have counteracted Butch Butching it IMO. Maggitt would have eaten Baker Mayfield up in the backfield.

 

[orangebloodgmc]

I’m trying to recall a recent seasons where we had significant preseason or first of season injuries to key contributors. Here’s what I remember:

2011 - Justin Hunter; Tyler Bray
2012 - Curt Maggitt
2013 - terrible team so injuries didn’t matter
2014 - ditto 2013, but I’m also forgetting
2015 - Marquez North
2016 - Jaylen Reeves-Maybin; Cam Sutton
2017 - Jauan Jennings
2018 - Brandon Kennedy
2019 - Emmitt Gooden

In that context this year’s injury doesn’t seem at all unusual, and arguably isn’t the most significant we’ve had. 2011, 2012 and 2016 in particular might have been very different seasons without those injuries (and others that happened later in the season those years).

It’s football. It happens.

One of the worst injury blows was when we lost J. Allen, early in the Georgia game (mid2000s?) He was our captain, and previous year lead the SEC in tackles, as a DB!

 

[Jackcrevol]

One of the worst injury blows was when we lost J. Allen, early in the Georgia game (mid2000s?) He was our captain, and previous year lead the SEC in tackles, as a DB!

was it 2005?

 

[31VFL]

Agreed but Gaulden and Maggitt would have counteracted Butch Butching it IMO. Maggitt would have eaten Baker Mayfield up in the backfield.

Maggitt played against Oklahoma. He had a handful of tackles. I think he got hurt a little after that game.

 

[VolGee4]

Maggitt played against Oklahoma. He had a handful of tackles. I think he got hurt a little after that game.

Pretty sure he got hurt during that game on special teams.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Pretty sure he got hurt during that game on special teams.

They didn’t start moving the ball until he was taken out of the game

 

[jordan4vols]

Maggitt played against Oklahoma. He had a handful of tackles. I think he got hurt a little after that game.

He got hurt in the first quarter vs Oklahoma on special teams on a fluke injury

 

[BruinVol]

Not much orange in the video but the group that sings the song are Tennessee boys!


Gets my blood running a little seeing it

 

[chargervol]

Vols head coach Jeremy Pruitt has glowing praise for true freshman

After those comments from Pruitt, I’m expecting To’oto’o to be one of the top defensive players in the SEC at some point.

Pruitt has coached a litany of talented defensive players. A lot of those players went on to play in the NFL. If anyone knows what it takes to be a good linebacker in the SEC, it’s Pruitt.

 

[31VFL]

He got hurt in the first quarter vs Oklahoma on special teams on a fluke injury

Gotcha. That would explain why I remember him. Definitely would have been a game changer.

 

[VolGee4]

They didn’t start moving the ball until he was taken out of the game

I don’t blame Butch entirely for that game. Hurd immediately fumbled on first down after a turnover. Lost down and distance with good field position. Ellis dropped a TD, and Medley missed a FG. Either of the last two get converted and we win.

 

[Aesius]

I don’t blame Butch entirely for that game. Hurd immediately fumbled on first down after a turnover. Lost down and distance with good field position. Ellis dropped a TD, and Medley missed a FG. Either of the last two get converted and we win.

Mayfield slipped out of about 10 sacks too. Dude was covered in grease that game.

 

[volatil]

Watch your language!

 

[SweetasSoda]

Not much orange in the video but the group that sings the song are Tennessee boys!


Gets my blood running a little seeing it

How many days??????

 

[901LookAlive]

I don’t blame Butch entirely for that game. Hurd immediately fumbled on first down after a turnover. Lost down and distance with good field position. Ellis dropped a TD, and Medley missed a FG. Either of the last two get converted and we win.

I do, it was our first taste of the ol Butch special. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Practically drew it up the same the following week.

 

[chargervol]

Siap, TN/Auburn on SEC network right now.

 

[Coach Punk]

Defensive line was always an unknown this season with very little experience coming back. Unknown doesn't mean they will definitely be bad though. They could be. Or they could actually be better than what we had. There's definitely more of a rotation and more size and strength. I'm just not as worried as most people I guess. Pretty excited to see how they play. I think they'll be pretty good.

I seem to remember being out-worked by everybody, regardless of talent level. Like, Vanderbilt, for instance. Pushed around, really. I’m hoping that guys like Mincey continue showing potential and Emerson live up to potential and the JUCOs do what we always wish they would do here.

 

[Sleegro]

I’m trying to recall a recent seasons where we had significant preseason or first of season injuries to key contributors. Here’s what I remember:

2011 - Justin Hunter; Tyler Bray
2012 - Curt Maggitt
2013 - terrible team so injuries didn’t matter
2014 - ditto 2013, but I’m also forgetting
2015 - Marquez North
2016 - Jaylen Reeves-Maybin; Cam Sutton
2017 - Jauan Jennings
2018 - Brandon Kennedy
2019 - Emmitt Gooden

In that context this year’s injury doesn’t seem at all unusual, and arguably isn’t the most significant we’ve had. 2011, 2012 and 2016 in particular might have been very different seasons without those injuries (and others that happened later in the season those years).

It’s football. It happens.

15 and 16 was basically the whole team both years. I think by the a&m game in 16 we had lost our top 5 dt's, top lb and top cornerback. Just on the defense. It was absurd. That's when I started realizing it wasn't bad luck. It was systematic from the head coach down. That's why I thought butch should have been fired before the bowl game in 16 despite starting so well. And definitely had no business coaching in 17.

 

[VOLATNES]

He has all the physical tools

JJP wasn’t very talkative today. He didn’t encourage any teammates during drills. Very little chatter.

-Simonton

 

[OnOne]

JJP wasn’t very talkative today. He didn’t encourage any teammates during drills. Very little chatter.

-Simonton

 

[drvenner]

Don't know that it matters but a minor difference

Simonton saying Simmons was over heated but Brown saying he appeared to get poked in the eye.

Nothing but I say we fight about it anyway.

He got over poked and heated in the eye, IMO.

 

[RiotVol]

One of the worst injury blows was when we lost J. Allen, early in the Georgia game (mid2000s?) He was our captain, and previous year lead the SEC in tackles, as a DB!

I was at that game. That sucked...