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Well when one side trouts out a bunch of socialist candidates that want to do away with private healthcare, national borders and the elimination of ICE, provide trillions of $ in reparations, provide free healthcare to illegals, create a multi-trillion green climate agenda, etc, etc, etc......people generally stand by Trump.

Just curious, but which candidates specifically do you think are the ones who want to abolish private healthcare, have open borders, and are in favor of reparations?
 
Why does one have to choose a side when they both suck?

You also seem to act like the Dems are the only ones wasting our money. Why do you believe that?

I choose policy and results over meaningless rhetoric or personality every time. I am not into cult politics like the Obama worshippers and all this Trump bad talk is nauseating. It is not the fact he is a jerk that bothers lefties, it is that he won and the policies he is implementing.
I never said that Reps do not waste money, It is my biggest disappointment with Trump and I have said such.
 
I choose policy and results over meaningless rhetoric or personality every time. I am not into cult politics like the Obama worshippers and all this Trump bad talk is nauseating. It is not the fact he is a jerk that bothers lefties, it is that he won and the policies he is implementing.
I never said that Reps do not waste money, It is my biggest disappointment with Trump and I have said such.
Then why support him unless you think massive deficits and debt are the key to a solid country? You do have a choice to not support either side
 
Then why support him unless you think massive deficits and debt are the key to a solid country? You do have a choice to not support either side

Your question is suggestive and rhetorical. Debt is not the only concern for a solid country, although it is rapidly becoming the primary issue. The debt will never be paid back and when interest rates hit their historic average, budget balancing will become mandatory.
Still support his policies and he has only submitted 2 budgets.
 
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That's where you are misinformed.

Insurance as a whole uses a number that judges Premium income vs expenses. It's called a combined ratio. The healthcare industry sits at a 97%. Which means that they make 3% in profit. Does 3% sound like a good margin? So how do they make money...

Insurance companies have to have enough reserve capital to pass regulatory standards to guarantee they can pay legit claims. The rest is invested and that's where insurance makes money. Not by premium costs. In fact... let's explore premiums.

Insurance companies and healthcare corporations go to the negotiating table and end up meeting somewhere in between what healthcare places as the ceiling and what insurance places at the floor of the cost. That number is then analyzed to determine premium within regulatory standards.

So negotiation #2 is up... several people were priced out of insurance so they are charged the healthcare preferred cost. They cant pay that obviously so what healthcare does is they add the money owed to the ceiling costs they think they are owed. The ceiling at the start of negotiation is higher therefore the agreed price comes out higher. Therefore, premiums go up. Around and around we go

Take a look at an itemized bill of a delivery. $50 for a half used box of gloves, $75 for a tylenol. Then take a peak at what insurance agreed to pay for those. Hint: it'll be less. It's called the "negotiated price" And with those outrageously inflated prices you wonder why insurance costs so much. Like I said, tell healthcare stop over charging and subsidizing their losses onto insurance companies. Charging 50 bucks for a box that costs 2.50 at CVS and even less wholesale.

Want to talk about why some claims get denied? Because the healthcare industry has been caught with fraud a million times. Theres no concern from the patient on the cost of the visit either. Too many people, over time, have looked at their bill, noticed it's crazy but shrugged because "insurance is paying and not me" three years later "wHy DiD mUh PrEmIuMz GeAuX uP" It's not rocket surgery.

The negotiations for the insurance companies is trying to manage their expenses. On what planet is any company interested in increasing their expenses so they can slowly raise premiums? All that does is price people out of paying into the pool and the expenses remain high with less insureds which is a recipe for bankruptcy. See Statefarm in Florida for homeowners policies back in the mid 2000s.

ER hospital bill from a few years ago.. around $21k for insurance and around $3500 if paid in cash. And folks still wonder why healthcare is messed up.
 
He continually gave me the I needed to be saved and godless people were ruining the country. I can only take so much of the disrespect from his end.
Yeah I know I saw the post you were replying to. 😬 I guess I thought his post read rather general not AT you but it was a discussion you two were having. I just offered a shot from the grassy knoll.
 
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ER hospital bill from a few years ago.. around $21k for insurance and around $3500 if paid in cash. And folks still wonder why healthcare is messed up.
and that's the lowest price that hospital Corp would accept. it's an attempt to subsidize nonpayers with insurance money and their insureds.
 
I've never seen you take a conservative stance.

This is another perfect example of where you stand. Defending Luther from me labeling him exactly what he professes to be. He's a self admitted socialist that has stated many times "by any means necessary" which means he's ok with the government taking over your life.
Also he follows the conservatives around like a lost puppy trying to always fact check us, meanwhile crickets when his fellow socialists post anything.
 
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Also he follows the conservatives around like a lost puppy trying to always fact check us, meanwhile crickets when his fellow socialists post anything.


So good of you to be his white Knight. You still calling yourself a conservative?

You haven't listed any policies either yet like to label me. Want to try?
 
So good of you to be his white Knight. You still calling yourself a conservative?

You haven't listed any policies either yet like to label me. Want to try?
Like luther,clear and lg enjoy you always being their white knight.

I don't give a damn what you say your policies are, us on the right see you follow your fellow socialists around and always take up for them meanwhile always bashing what us conservatives say. It's become comical with you
 
Also he follows the conservatives around like a lost puppy trying to always fact check us, meanwhile crickets when his fellow socialists post anything.

you really have to learn what makes a country or individual socialist. You continually make yourself look stupid by using a word which you do not have any sort of grasp of its meaning.
 
I think he was referring to TV Anchors and how much they have focused on TX and not as much on OH.

Suspect is alive. Twice as many dead. But let's go with they just don't want you to know about the dayton guy. Conservatives are a paranoid crew.
 
Suspect is alive. Twice as many dead. But let's go with they just don't want you to know about the dayton guy. Conservatives are a paranoid crew.
Paranoid about Leftist taking away Liberty, then yes. Leftist do not love or value Liberty unfortunately. Many RINOs on the so called right do not either FWIW.
 
Anyone left of Rush Limbaugh is a leftist to you.
For sure. Anyone that does not support the Constitution as it is written is left of me. Way too many wack jobs in this country that have been brainwashed to hate what use to be right and love what use to be wrong. That's how we lose our Country and Freedom.
 
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For sure. Anyone that does not support the Constitution as it is written is left of me. Way too many wack jobs in this country that have been brainwashed to hate what use to be right and love what use to be wrong. That how we lose our Country and Freedom.

Rush is a whack job. Also, there are different ways to interpret the same words in the Constitution. Acting like there is only one possible conclusion when analyzing a passage and applying it to a current situation is pretty idiotic.
 
Rush is a whack job. Also, there are different ways to interpret the same words in the Constitution. Acting like there is only one possible conclusion when analyzing a passage and applying it to a current situation is pretty idiotic.
No Rush is actually plenty sane. The Constituion is not a living breathing document as many on the left would like for it to be. Unfortunately you have been indoctrinated to think this way. When people are OK with Abortion, Homosexuality, Sex out of Wedlock, etc, they have lost their way. This country needs to get back to God.
 
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