This is downright unamerican...

#77
#77
It's a discussion worth having, there are very few, if any, true grocery stores within city limits all across the nation.

The result is the dollar store model because of it.

Supermarket chains avoid low-income neighborhoods, even though they promised not to

I know in Cincinnati there are basically no grocery stores near poor area's. Detroit has none in it's city limits. One reason, loss and loss prevention are one of contributing factors. Because Kroger's HQ is in Cinci there have been talks about these issues especially pertaining to this city, where Kroger just opened one downtown.

Idk. I can attest to Food City having roughly 20,000 locations in Chattanooga alone.
 
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How much do you think the status quo is customer-demanded and how much do you think is the consequence of business decisions?

Do you think the people living where there are no grocery stores like it that way?
If a market will support a grocery store, someone will fill that need. If a DG on every corner makes money for DG, then so be it. Rossville did a similar thing here restricting how close check cashing places could be from others in order to limit the number because they are predatory. Who cares? If the place makes money it will stay in business. If it can’t it’s gone. Simple. I don’t believe there are grocery store CEO’s out there saying this market would make us a shitton of money so let’s avoid it. Remember corporations are greedy awful things, they want a dollar at all costs. Why would they actively avoid a chance to make money?
 
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Do you feel the same about zoning? That denies people choice. I don't think many people particularly find Houston beautiful (the only major city with no zoning).
My firm does zoning and I m still of mixed opinion. I am fine with most of the setback stuff. Or what can go where. But anytime they touch design standards, set sizes, lots or things like that I am against it. As you said zoning tends to kick poor people and businesses out.

Historic regs in general, except for some actual historic areas, need to burn in hades.
 
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How much do you think the status quo is customer-demanded and how much do you think is the consequence of business decisions?

Do you think the people living where there are no grocery stores like it that way?

Customer demand isn't the only consideration. Business decisions are based on customer demand, among other factors. People in places with no grocery stores near move there because grocery stores were not a high enough priority
 
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From the article:

"The average supermarket operates on a 1 or 2% profit margin and must be sustainable for at least a decade to recoup any profit."


Supermarkets survive because of the supermarket bailout act, known as food stamps
 
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The dollar store is really a myth. They sell stuff cheaper but usually much less quantity of what your purchasing. It's really a slight of hand. However, the government should not attack them
 
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It's a discussion worth having, there are very few, if any, true grocery stores within city limits all across the nation.

The result is the dollar store model because of it.

Supermarket chains avoid low-income neighborhoods, even though they promised not to

I know in Cincinnati there are basically no grocery stores near poor area's. Detroit has none in it's city limits. One reason, loss and loss prevention are one of contributing factors. Because Kroger's HQ is in Cinci there have been talks about these issues especially pertaining to this city, where Kroger just opened one downtown.
That's weird that businesses don't locate near people without money. Even stranger that businesses with higher priced products are even more scarce in these areas. Seems they would see instant success.
 
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The dollar store is really a myth. They sell stuff cheaper but usually much less quantity of what your purchasing. It's really a slight of hand. However, the government should not attack them

This!! That’s a lot of the business model: lower price points but higher unit costs.

Good spot for gift bags and greeting cards though.

A birthday card at Harris Teeter is about 5 dollars these days.
 
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Did we determine if halting dollar stores is unAmerican?

Seems to me that city planning and use of zoning restrictions are quite American practices.
 
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The dollar store is really a myth. They sell stuff cheaper but usually much less quantity of what your purchasing. It's really a slight of hand. However, the government should not attack them

It depends on the location. I can pick up name brand deodorant, tooth brushes, Draino etc. at one near me.
 
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#97
States are passing laws limiting the number of Dollars stores that can open? Seems like a really bad precedent.


Dollar stores are everywhere. That's a problem for poor Americans - CNN
Agree. What I’ve seen are dollar stores in areas where your big super markets refuse to put stores. It fills a void. I live in a rural area and the dollar store is the only thing for miles and miles. I see lots of folks who can walk to their local dollar store because they don’t have transportation.

I rarely shop there, but if I need something it’s good to know I don’t have to drive 15-20 miles to get it.
 
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I remember reading an article about Eric Berry. Stated that even though he made millions, he still shopped at the dollar store.

I’m rural also, I’ve got a store with in 5 miles of me. It’s convenient
 
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