2020 Presidential Race

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zeppelin128 said:
It will start to thin out after the debates and this fall. Hell, you need a spreadsheet to keep up with all the Democrats running these days. I didn't even know this dude was running.
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I think if anything Trump has emboldened these goobs that anyone could be the nominee.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I think if anything Trump has emboldened these goobs that anyone could be the nominee.
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A good chunk of the front-runners in the Democratic Primary are polling ahead of Trump in a general election match-up. Too early for polls to mean much, but I think that is why there are so many Dem candidates. Even if they don't make it past the summer or fall, they still get their name out there for the future.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I think if anything Trump has emboldened these goobs that anyone could be the nominee.
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That's been the rumor for decades. The problem is nobody before Trump had the two necessary ingredients ... money and recognizing that you had to high-jack a party rather than run as an independent. It also didn't hurt one bit that people are sick and tired of political insiders running the country into the ground.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That would be conventional wisdom, but this isn't a conventional presidency. In spite of the strength of the economy, Trump's Real Clear Politics Average Approval Rating has still never been above the 46.2% number that he was elected with (it is currently at 43.9% - Trump has a very low ceiling.). That indicates that he is either not getting any credit for the strength of the economy, or his negatives involving his character and personality are currently overriding how people feel about the economy. Also, I disagree that the Democrats are divided... they are unified in their sentiment that the most important issue they face in 2020, and how they should vote, revolves around defeating Donald Trump.
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To the last, that's not actually something to run on. It leaves a real big "and then", ok you got elected now what are you going to do? Without a real plan they are dogs chasing cars.

Also I tend to agree that if Trump wasnt so Trump he could win in a landslide, but he stays in his own way.

Historically the middle of this country tend to go towards the incumbent.
 
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LouderVol said:
To the last, that's not actually something to run on. It leaves a real big "and then", ok you got elected now what are you going to do? Without a real plan they are dogs chasing cars.

Also I tend to agree that if Trump wasnt so Trump he could win in a landslide, but he stays in his own way.

Historically the middle of this country tend to go towards the incumbent.
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Historically, yes, but there is definitely a greater sense of shame regarding Trump than I’ve seen before. That’s why his approval rating seems stuck. I’d say he has a 50/50 shot to win if the economy remains strong. If it falters, he’s getting smoked.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Historically, yes, but there is definitely a greater sense of shame regarding Trump than I’ve seen before. That’s why his approval rating seems stuck. I’d say he has a 50/50 shot to win if the economy remains strong. If it falters, he’s getting smoked.
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I hope we dont get 2 years of excuses this time when you get shocked by the results.
 
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