5* recruiting (debunked)

#77
#77
VolForLife83 said:
  • 30 five-stars, or 0.01 percent of the class
  • 380 four-stars, or 0.13 percent of the class
  • 1,328 three-stars, or 0.44 percent of the class
  • 1,859 two-stars, or 0.62 percent of the class
  • 296,403 unrated, or 98.88 percent of the class
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I don't understand why they star haters can't figure this out...not to mention the fact that these mediocre recruiting teams never make it to the national championship.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Actually, I couldn’t care less about their NFL potential. But the fact remains, if you take the top 10 ranked teams at the end of any year and look at their recruiting success according to recruiting class rankings, there’s a STRONG CORRELATION. It’s a fact that can’t be disputed.
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I agree somewhat. But I think you find elite coaching heading those teams up. I don't feel they are in the top 10 with a roster full of blue chips and a bad coach.
 
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#79
So let me get this straight..... if any team that wants to compete for a NC needs a top 10 class every yr, are we saying that Butch Jones could take over in Alabama, do things his way and win a natty?
 
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1vol8 said:
I agree somewhat. But I think you find elite coaching heading those teams up. I don't feel they are in the top 10 with a roster full of blue chips and a bad coach.
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Could a terrible coach win a natty with that kind of talent? Idk ask gene chizik
 
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This thread (Debunked)...
A quick look at the NCAA National Champions from 2003 to 2016...
-11 of the 14 national champions averaged a top 10 recruiting class in the four years leading up to them winning the crown.
-Nearly half (six of 14) averaged a top five class.
-Five of the last six have averaged a top six class or better.

If recruiting rankings didn't matter, then at some point, a team of 3 stars would win. They never do and never have. Because an occasional 3 star works hard and out performs his ranking when there are 13 times more of them than 5 stars, doesn't mean the rankings are worthless. If you go through stacks of #3 grade lumber, you are going to find the occasional board that is nice, but that doesn't mean the truck load of 3 grade lumber is going to build as good of a house as the truck of #1 Grade lumber.
 
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This is dumb. Anecdotally, you can find any number of missed ratings that prove that stars don't matter. But aggregate that into a big picture and in general the higher rated guy will be better.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
So in the last 2 years there is a 1 win difference, UT won 1 more game. But in the last 10 years Nebraska has had more mediocre success than we have.
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Worst season in our history and they doubled up...and we beat them in a bowl right before. #Scoreboard
 
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Volfan76 said:
This thread (Debunked)...
A quick look at the NCAA National Champions from 2003 to 2016...
-11 of the 14 national champions averaged a top 10 recruiting class in the four years leading up to them winning the crown.
-Nearly half (six of 14) averaged a top five class.
-Five of the last six have averaged a top six class or better.

If recruiting rankings didn't matter, then at some point, a team of 3 stars would win. They never do and never have. Because an occasional 3 star works hard and out performs his ranking when there are 13 times more of them than 5 stars, doesn't mean the rankings are worthless. If you go through stacks of #3 grade lumber, you are going to find the occasional board that is nice, but that doesn't mean the truck load of 3 grade lumber is going to build as good of a house as the truck of #1 Grade lumber.
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I'l chalk that up as a vote for Bama vs the roster listed?
 
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MSCE09 said:
This is dumb. Anecdotally, you can find any number of missed ratings that prove that stars don't matter. But aggregate that into a big picture and in general the higher rated guy will be better.
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Depends on who does the rating. The services are unreliable and have been corrupted by camp politics. If they went to a neutral scouting service, I’d put more stock in them. The fact that a kid can go from unrated to 3 stars after being offered by a certain school shows how flawed the process is. There’s not enough acknowledged 5 stars each year to fret over.
 
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chargervol said:
There's kids so talented that anyone can see it but most of the rankings are based off of which proven coaches have shown interest.
If Pruit wins big, then any soph he shows interest in will enter the rankings higher. Those eggheads do less in identifying talent than many give them credit for.
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Except that the eggs heads are right the vast majority of the time
 
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I seem to be having a flashback but haven’t we exhausted this subject before? Maybe 43 times before? Could just me my diverticulitis kicking in though!
 
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The Original Fade said:
Except that the eggs heads are right the vast majority of the time
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The COACHES and scouts were right the majority of the time. The eggheads shouldn't get that much credit for jotting down who the best programs find.

Beaten to death but the high 3star ranking for the fictional recruit was based off of the pretend Bama offer.
You really praise them for that method?
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I know we're all high on Pruitt, but we still have to wait and see. With that said. How many millions are we paying Sabans window washer?
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Obviously we have to wait and see, it amazes me how so many say that like they thought it up all by themselves. Not quite as silly as that dumb joke about the window washer. That one is embarrassing. You should stop using it. Jmo, Tifwiw.
 
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#100
A close friend I go to games with occasionally and is a huge donor and has been for 40 years told me this past winter he attended a function at Alabama in January and met some of the coaches there. One coach told him Jeremy Pruitt was GREATEST evaluator of talent in the game today. Said no one he knew was even close. That certainly makes me feel good about who and why he’s recruiting said players. Now I’m sure JP would love to have a team of all 5 stars IF his evaluation of them was the same. Otherwise I doubt he could care less what some “service” ranks them.
 
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